Re: [Freesurfer] Collecting 2 T1s Best?

2018-03-07 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Alessandra

it's really an empirical question. If 1 image has sufficient SNR/CNR, 
then adding a second doesn't always help (as it induces some 
blurring due to interpolation). But if your single image is noisy, which it 
might be at 0.8 iso, then a second will help. You might try it on one or 
two subjects and see what you think. An alternative, if you are not already 
getting them, would be a T2-space or FLAIR T2-space, which can help avoid 
dura and such


cheers
Bruce

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, Alessandra Macbeth wrote:


Hi there,
I know in the past, it was recommended to acquire 2 T1 scans so that they could 
be averaged for
better SNR, etc. in order to improve cortical thickness and surface area 
measurements. Is this still
the recommendation? We have a few extra minutes in our scanning protocol and 
are debating whether to
include a 2nd T1.

Our parameters are: MPRAGE with .8mm^3 voxel size, slice thickness of .8, FA = 
8 degrees, TR =
2400ms, TE = 2.72ms, TI = 1060ms.

Best,
Alessandra

--
Alessandra Macbeth, M.A.
Doctoral Candidate - Department of PsychologyUniversity of California, Riverside

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Re: [Freesurfer] Collecting 2 T1s Best?

2018-03-07 Thread Glasser, Matthew
Are you getting a 0.8mm isotropic T2w or FLAIR?  You would probably get better 
mileage out of a different type of scan that can help exclude dura and blood 
vessels if you aren’t already getting one.  Also what coil are you using?  I 
might prefer a TI=1000ms simply because it spreads the CSF, GM, and WM 
histogram peaks out a little more evenly, whereas 1060 will have GM and WM 
closer together than GM and CSF.

Peace,

Matt.

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Hi there,

I know in the past, it was recommended to acquire 2 T1 scans so that they could 
be averaged for better SNR, etc. in order to improve cortical thickness and 
surface area measurements. Is this still the recommendation? We have a few 
extra minutes in our scanning protocol and are debating whether to include a 
2nd T1.

Our parameters are: MPRAGE with .8mm^3 voxel size, slice thickness of .8, FA = 
8 degrees, TR = 2400ms, TE = 2.72ms, TI = 1060ms.

Best,
Alessandra

--
Alessandra Macbeth, M.A.
Doctoral Candidate - Department of Psychology
University of California, Riverside
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[Freesurfer] Collecting 2 T1s Best?

2018-03-07 Thread Alessandra Macbeth
Hi there,

I know in the past, it was recommended to acquire 2 T1 scans so that they
could be averaged for better SNR, etc. in order to improve cortical
thickness and surface area measurements. Is this still the recommendation?
We have a few extra minutes in our scanning protocol and are debating
whether to include a 2nd T1.

Our parameters are: MPRAGE with .8mm^3 voxel size, slice thickness of .8,
FA = 8 degrees, TR = 2400ms, TE = 2.72ms, TI = 1060ms.

Best,
Alessandra

-- 
Alessandra Macbeth, M.A.
Doctoral Candidate - Department of Psychology
University of California, Riverside
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