Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 repeater

2017-12-05 Thread David Rowe
OFDMA (not OFDM) is used as an access mode in LTE in combination with TDM. I'm toying with the idea for a while now, but with 5-6 hours a week available I haven't made much progress lately. Regarding 4FSK, personally I see no advantage over 2FSK. It's certainly more complicated to get working.

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 repeater

2017-12-05 Thread glen english
It is always useful I think in every conversation about 2 and 4 fskĀ  to qualify the implementation... IE optimal 4 receiver 4fsk versus 4fsk in a wide non liear demod passbandĀ  etc etc IMO, the implementation method it really needs to be rammed home when forming comparisons . particular the

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 repeater

2017-12-05 Thread David Rowe
Thanks Ross - that's a great explanation. Yes 4FSK is the "sweet spot" in the FSK family for bandwidth efficiency. Here is a really good PDF that I find myself referring too all the time: http://www.atlantarf.com/FSK_Modulation.php I have been working with non-coherent FSK modems (phase

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 repeater

2017-12-05 Thread glen english
actually LTE doesnt quite work that way LTE used OFDM on uplink and downlink. The entire operator's LTE spectrum is divided up into 15kHz subchannels which are generated/decoded in the usual OFDM FFT manner. User payload is transmitted using 'resource blocks' (RB), which I think are 12

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 repeater

2017-12-05 Thread glen english
For a 16kHz wide or 10kHz wide IF filter with non linear demodulation, I consider 2FSK the mode to choice where the bitrate can be satisfied . 4FSK takes a big hit in this implementation case, for reasons outlined in many places and many times here and elsewhere. (DMR/P25 chaose 4FSK to