Re: [Freetel-codec2] Do we need these comments

2020-12-07 Thread David Rowe
Thanks Adrian - I enjoy many aspects of developing digital voice systems, such as speech coding, modems for HF radio, and lately, machine learning.  Good fun, and lots to learn.  Apart from me, there are also many other people who are contributing.  Thanks to all. Helmut - you can be our beta

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Do we need these comments

2020-12-07 Thread Adrian Musceac
Helmut, it's not only on HF, even towards microwave with AWGN channel SSB is unbeatable. But intelligibility is greatly improved at marginal signals with Codec2, and there are other use cases too, like IP transit, the stuff Alan wants to work on and the M17 project is doing as well. This is a

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Do we need these comments

2020-12-07 Thread Helmut Oeller
Why does nobody confess that on HF or outside the laboratory no digital mode can compete with SSB? Reliability, interference immunity and fault-free operation  under bad ionospheric conditions are unbeatable. DC6NY Am 07.12.2020 um 09:53 schrieb Adrian Musceac: Everybody is entitled to an

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Do we need these comments

2020-12-07 Thread Adrian Musceac
Everybody is entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean we all have to share it. Mode 700C sounds fine for the bitrate, and so does mode 1400 and 1600. David you've made a great effort with them, we're more than a few users who never use HF and are perfectly satisfied with the current technology