Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-16 Thread John Kennison
Thanks Owen and Eric for giving me a simple answer to my simple question. Thanks also to Doug for the reassuring private email he sent me. I do have a question for Doug: I don't see how the facts that you list pertain to my question of how uninsured people are treated when they suddenly need

Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
Again, apologies to all for my cranky outburst yesterday. I suppose I teed off on the broad nature of the question: * * *...what happens if an uninsured person suddenly needs massive medical treatment to avoid death or crippling consequences* Given that out the the 350 million US population

Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-16 Thread Owen Densmore
Having to deal with this within my own family (Gil), there are a surprising number of ways people can get help, both in terms of emergency room access and subsidized insurance. The bad news is you have to be pretty bright and insistent to find the solutions and to work through the

[FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread plissaman
Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb I have enjoyed the plethora of Wisdom apropos contemporary mores and innovation from Friam correspondents: finally a reply is irresistible.    But I can respond only with banal facts I have personally experienced and know to be true. On dumth: I have

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Peter, A bit of Santa Feana for you Joyce lovers. Did you know that there is a Joyce group in Town here that meets weekly to read and discuss Joyces work? This week they are working through Portrait of the Artist, chapter by chapter, and Finnegan's Wake, sentence by sentence. The group

Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-16 Thread Gary Schiltz
I don't personally think Doug's comments were all that cranky, but then I've been on this list for a long time - it seems to me more like he was playing Devil's Advocate. But to John's sincere question, I also wonder what generally happens to uninsured people who come to a hospital emergency

[FRIAM] Not Fiction

2010-02-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
Not cranky either, by any means. Certainly not for those planning to attend in the (naive) hope of a quiet evening of Bach, Mozart, or Pink Floyd. But, moderately complex, with intermittent swarm behavior [observable to the more astute observers]. Annual Santa Fe Fat Tuesday Pub

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Robert Holmes
Nick - When? Where? -- R On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Peter, A bit of Santa Feana for you Joyce lovers. Did you know that there is a Joyce group in Town here that meets weekly to read and discuss Joyces work? This week they are

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Peter, Can we expect an analysis? ;-) http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/2010-February/012181.html FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives,