Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-10 Thread sarbajit roy
I'm a mechanical engineer with clients who make huge quantities of such mixes onbgiant kneaders (for example the flubbery mass at the center of golf balls). After seeing pictures of their equipment / manufacturing processes on their blog, the Sugru ladies appear to be a tiny unit making a product

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

2010-05-10 Thread Victoria Hughes
Hey Sarbajit et al All that is true. What I am interested in, however, are its applications in my media. Practical hands-on usefulness for a wide range of situations. Those applications are now possible for a wide audience of people who make things because the marketing connected - info

[FRIAM] making the metaphor of natural selection precise

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 10-05-09 03:35 PM: The metaphor I want to examine is that between the manner in which the different strains of pigeons in Darwin's coop came to be the way they were and the manner in which different species of plants and animals came to be the way they are. OK.

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I think you're giving me way too much credit, here. I'm not a deep thinker in any sense. So, when I say that metaphors are required to be fuzzy in order to be metaphors, I'm (trying) to say something very practical. Metaphors are quick and dirty ways to wonk someone out of a way of thinking...

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

2010-05-10 Thread Carl Tollander
It's this stuff. http://www.formerol.comSugru appears to be the consumer marketing arm for the F.03 / sugru products. They say you can order it with other properties. I also like this stuff. http://www.solarcomposites.com It would be nice to have a less obnoxious-to-work-with

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

2010-05-10 Thread Victoria Hughes
Excellent. Great lead, thanks Carl! I like that the company was developed by a woman in art school. Nice blend of art, science and technology. ... Will pursue some work with them and let you all know if something interesting arises. Tory On May 10, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

2010-05-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Tory, Carl, One of the great delights of this list is that I can, from time to time, find myself in the midst of a conversation concerning which I don't have a clue what we are talking about. I wouldnt have it any other way. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russell Gonnering wrote circa 10-05-09 07:39 AM: Reading the text of the bill: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf I see no statute that entitles a show me your papers demand unless it is in the course of investigation of a crime. The straw man argument that police in

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread Russell Gonnering
Glen- You are viewing reality through your own terministic screen, as do all of us. We seem to be using a different definition of complexity. Mine is in line with the Stacey diagram of agreement/certainty or the Cynefin Framework of Snowden that deals with cause and effect. Perhaps therein

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russell Gonnering wrote circa 10-05-10 02:02 PM: We seem to be using a different definition of complexity. Mine is in line with the Stacey diagram of agreement/certainty or the Cynefin Framework of Snowden that deals with cause and effect. Perhaps therein lies the difficulty, and why I see

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Russ, and others I am continuing to do my penance for having uncritically circulated an opinion gleaned from NPR and/ or Left Wing Rant Radio. I have already conceded that my belief that border state gunshows are a significant source of modern Mexican drug lords armament is ... um shakey.

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread Russell Gonnering
Glenn- It would be refreshing to find a venue in which my definition of complexity (and the one described by Snowden, Stacey, Arthur, etc.) can be discussed. Interconnectivity and interwoven things are present in complicated and even simple systems as well. The difference is in how cause

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russell Gonnering wrote circa 10-05-10 03:36 PM: It would be refreshing to find a venue in which my definition of complexity (and the one described by Snowden, Stacey, Arthur, etc.) can be discussed. Interconnectivity and interwoven things are present in complicated and even simple systems as

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread Russell Gonnering
Glen- Why are you so sure you know what is in other people's minds? Your continual use of the annotated point-for-point refutation of why I am wrong and you are right just proves the point, doesn't it? Reductionism a a wonderful tool, for the complicated. But the complex is something

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russell Gonnering wrote circa 10-05-10 04:56 PM: Why are you so sure you know what is in other people's minds? Your continual use of the annotated point-for-point refutation of why I am wrong and you are right just proves the point, doesn't it? I'm neither sure what's in others' minds, nor am