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2011-08-19 Thread Alfredo Covaleda
Interesting to see how these smart guys from google resemble dogs barking at his own shadow. Each one of my mail accounts and my own domains are centralized in gmail. I always send mail from gmail. I don`t use Outlook nor Kmail, etc. It is hard to understand that gmail can't authenticate mail sent

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2011-08-19 Thread Owen Densmore
Here are the 27 email addresses I've seen so far that give the weird gmail error message .. I think its any direct @gmail.com account, i.e. not those of us using our own domains. I'd really like it if a sysadmin would look at the problem to see if our mail lists could include the headers Google wa

Re: [FRIAM] "no one shall expel us from the paradise that Cantor has created", Hugh Woodin's "ultimate L": Richard Elwes: Rich Murray 2011.08.18

2011-08-19 Thread Rich Murray
Thanks, Tory, great to appreciate http://toryhughes.com/news/ re your art show now at StarBucks on the Plaza this month I've been artistically doing science: Richat Structure, Mauritania -- Cox geoablation via Boslough comet fragment air burst directed 6,000 K high pressure directed jets: Rich M

Re: [FRIAM] "no one shall expel us from the paradise that Cantor has created", Hugh Woodin's "ultimate L": Richard Elwes: Rich Murray 2011.08.18

2011-08-19 Thread Victoria Hughes
"God is a circle whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere." attributed to various philosophers, beginning with Empedocles a non-dual rephrase> " ... whose center is everywhere and circumference is now here". or even "be the hologram you are, babe". On Aug 19,

Re: [FRIAM] "no one shall expel us from the paradise that Cantor has created", Hugh Woodin's "ultimate L": Richard Elwes: Rich Murray 2011.08.18

2011-08-19 Thread Rich Murray
each of us is all of single entire unified creative fractal hyperinfinity ... . ... Rich Murray 2011.08.19 thus, just as with the one-to-one matching of any minute subset of real line continuum with entire continuum, obvious by glancing that concentric circles bigger and bigger around a

Re: [FRIAM] datum vs. data

2011-08-19 Thread Bruce Sherwood
I'm amused/bemused by the history of the word "atom", from the Greek meaning not (a-) cuttable (tom, as in tomography). The 19th-century scientists who used the word knew Greek, so for them the word itself was presumably perceived as two components, a-tom, but the object itself was deemed indivisib

Re: [FRIAM] datum vs. data

2011-08-19 Thread Eric Smith
Ah, Nick, each choice is buggered no matter which way one turns. That eternal torment seems to be the crucible that makes it impossible for language ever to rest. The voiced-syllable-initial-th at the beginning of this, that, and the other (_not_ "thing") is a characteristic of the function wor

Re: [FRIAM] datum vs. data

2011-08-19 Thread Nicholas Thompson
It's odd that this sort of issue is only an issue for non-linguists. The idea that a word borrowed from an ancient Mediterranean language should be declined in English (or is that conjugated) as in the original, would be absurd to most linguists. So who is it NOT absurd to? Highschool English te

Re: [FRIAM] The myth of knowledge

2011-08-19 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Not wanting to bring this thread to the list without evidence of greater interest, I have made posting on the blog more flexible, Robert has posted there, and I have . Eric On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 10:20 AM, "Robert J. Co

Re: [FRIAM] datum vs. data

2011-08-19 Thread Greg Sonnenfeld
Data is now accepted as a mass noun by most computing organizations including those in IEEE. I remember having a long debate about this at Ames in regards to a publication. Greg Sonnenfeld "Junior programmers create simple solutions to simple problems. Senior progra

[FRIAM] datum vs. data

2011-08-19 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I'm looking for a little psychological insight, here. Why do I so often screw up the subject verb agreement with the word "data"? I know data is plural... but "datum" is so rare ... and a bit pretentious ... and, unless you get down to an atomic "bit", any "datum" is probably "data" if you crack

Re: [FRIAM] The myth of knowledge

2011-08-19 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Interesting. It seems though it isn't knowledge that is core to your discussion but our 'knowing' - the human experience. What makes some things 'compiled' knowledge (in our experience, like riding a bike) and some things expressible knowledge (which we can teach, like nuclear physics)? Is it

Re: [FRIAM] Another shameless plug, sort of

2011-08-19 Thread Douglas Roberts
The route was made with plain old Google maps. -Doug Sent from Android. On Aug 18, 2011 11:56 PM, "Jochen Fromm" wrote: > Cool, a BMW. German enginering! Nice, pictures, too. How did you record the route? A self-made app? I use the Runtastic app to record my jogging tracks. > > -J. > > Sent from