Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Stirling's "Dies the Fire" and subsequent books follow this line of reasoning way out toward it's logical conclusion... he (and many SF writers are big SCA fans). The same day I met him (Stephen Stirling) I also met Diana Paxson (I was hosting a visit of SF authors to LANL) who claimed to have

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

S.M Stirling (Santa Fe based, prolific Science Fiction author) addresses this to some extent in his series (first was /Dies the Fire/) set in a post apocalyptic world. The Apocalypse was simply the supposition that the solar system moved (whatever this means physically is hard to figure but be

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

My succinct version: "I apparently have nothing better to do". We vote with our eyes--or our minds--about how we'll spend our (alas) finite time. If, at the end of the day, we're nourished by what we've exposed ourselves to, or done for ourselves, fine. If not, then we know we'd better make per

Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice

It occurs to me that some of us may not have tried speed test. I always get a grin when I see it pissing all over our network! Burning man? Sure. Pissing man? Hmm.. [image: Inline image 1] -- Owen On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > After the great tales of Doug and

[FRIAM] Apple Adds Two-Step Verification Security Option for Apple IDs

Apple joins Google for 2-factor authentication. http://www.iclarified.com/28490/apple-adds-twostep-verification-security-option-for-apple-ids It would be nice if we could agree on a single phone app for the pin, but hey, that's the price of bleeding edge. I've looked into banking 2-factor auth an

[FRIAM] Google Voice

After the great tales of Doug and Android/Nexus, and seeing sigs w/ GV numbers .. I thought I'd ask for those of us (not me yet) who use GV could give us a glimpse into that future. Just as Doug has taken the phone to its logical conclusion: "Its the internet stupid" sort of thing .. maybe we all

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Yeah, wood is great, except almost everywhere that depended on it ended up with none within wood gathering radius. The story is if you look at early photos of Santa Fe, the hills seem strangely denuded compared to the present. -- rec -- On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

I have had an opportunity to observe craftsmen, and I am pretty sure they do know why they do things a certain way, they just don't quite know how to explain it in terms of engineering principles. Their skills are often acquired via oral traditions, the subskills aren't passed on as codified k

Re: [FRIAM] You just READ the Google homepage. What actually happened?

You just READ the Google homepage. What actually happened? How do you digest your dinner? The problem at hand is not a new one. Couple years ago (2011), David Krakauer gave the Ulam lecture, which had some observations on outsourcing competencies. I seem to recall he thought it was a go

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Russ Abbott wrote at 03/21/2013 05:09 PM: > Either way, the point, of course, is that it's often vitally important > to understand how things work. Naaa. What matters is the effect, not the justification. Ideology is a disease. I'd prefer a reliable polymathic artisan without understanding to a

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Either way, the point, of course, is that it's often vitally important to understand how things work. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ss

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

It would be nice to know the origin of 'the viewpoint'. Robert C On 3/21/13 5:48 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote: Steam engines work fine on wood - not as efficient but they worked with wood for years. Hydro-power has worked even better since ancient times. Charcoal comes from wood and can be made

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

How about a craftsman or artisan that understands the engineering principles of what they craft? Too many craftsmen I've met don't know why they do things a certain way - that's just the way they were taught to do it. I can think of two people I'd like to have with me in case of a major catast

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Russ Abbott wrote at 03/21/2013 04:45 PM: > Every once in a while I hear about a survey where it is asked who you > would like to have with you in case of a major catastrophe. > Overwhelmingly the answer is an engineer. I wouldn't disagree. I've always preferred to answer that question with a cr

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Steam engines work fine on wood - not as efficient but they worked with wood for years. Hydro-power has worked even better since ancient times. Charcoal comes from wood and can be made into coke. All that aside, I don't understand the comment "we already have mined and spent all of easily avai

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Every once in a while I hear about a survey where it is asked who you would like to have with you in case of a major catastrophe. Overwhelmingly the answer is an engineer. I wouldn't disagree. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* *

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Well, if the subject is computer security instead of web-pages then a point and drool, Idiocracy, world will keep me in employment. On the other hand, point and drool policy makers tend to annoy me with their stupid policies. Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-40

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Probably the issue pops up when turning the wheel doesn't have the desired effect. Without knowing more about how the car works all the user can say is "it doesn't work", and all the mechanic can say is bring it in. Having an idea of how things are supposed to work one or two levels down can

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

The standard example is that most people can drive a car even though they don't understand how internal combustion engines work -- and they would even if the car were powered by an electric motor. I have no problem with putting that in terms of contracts: turn the steering wheel and the car wheels

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

where's the part of you beem into the google page: it instantly forms metrics about you and presents you with "useful" adds (as aposed to to minuses) :P On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > >> I disagree with Jean-Baptiste

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

At the risk of hijacking the thread... I liked the comment on the ycombinator: PeterisP There exists a viewpoint that in case of a cataclysm (which would involve man-made objects disappearing*) we would never, ever progress past 18th century tech again. The argument is that getti

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > I disagree with Jean-Baptiste Query's presentation, which implies that you > have to understand all levels of any process to understand the process > itself. If that were true we would all have to understand quantum mechanics > to understand

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

We vote with our eyes--or our minds--about how we'll spend our (alas) finite time. If, at the end of the day, we're nourished by what we've exposed ourselves to, or done for ourselves, fine. If not, then we know we'd better make personal changes. Oddly, in this day of electronic junk food of ev

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

Pamela - I'm going to assume the "Patricia" Steve mentions is me. Ten published books. Four of them novels. You write because you must. I feel blessed to be able to do what I love to do. Absolutely... my apologies... I should have turned my brain over at least one more time on that one. I *fea

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

I'm going to assume the "Patricia" Steve mentions is me. Ten published books. Four of them novels. You write because you must. I feel blessed to be able to do what I love to do. Like most authors, I'm always saddened to hear that literature doesn't speak "any more" to a certain group of people

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

Glen - Unfortunately I fear you are correct. *I* have probably *written* at least one Novel's worth (a Michener or King's worth?) right here on the FRIAM list, yet you don't see me buckling down to publish my own next to Doug's. And in fact, I think Doug will acknowledge that even *he* wou

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

I disagree with Jean-Baptiste Query's presentation, which implies that you have to understand all levels of any process to understand the process itself. If that were true we would all have to understand quantum mechanics to understand everything. But no one understands quantum mechanics. So no one

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Jean-Baptiste Quéru's (accurate and complete to my study) description of the details (down to the physical layer) of what happens when you go to Google's homepage reminds me of how, roughly 22 years ago, at LANL: We wrote a simple PERL script to act as a daemon (a program running all the tim

Re: [FRIAM] less

What I have seen of less has been all good. Having variables and functions alone make css a lot more fun. Mixins are great with all the clean up they can bring by abstracting things that in reality have to be dealt with in series of one offs for different browsers. It requires a compiler.

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

Steve Smith wrote at 03/21/2013 10:24 AM: > I'll see your "King's Men" and raise you a"Stone Junction" > by > Jim Dodge Ordered! > When Glen writes his "great american novel" (surely to be also an > alchemical potboiler, a

Re: [FRIAM] Yet Another, Tower of Babel, Cambrian Explosion

CSS is an extension of HTML and is confined to HTML element attributes. JSON is a generic data interchange format (DIF) LESS and SASS are preprocessors that programmatically generate 'static' CSS but PHP, etc. can do that too if you care to write it. Perhaps to answer your question they were al

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

I'll see your "King's Men" and raise you a"Stone Junction" by Jim Dodge It is a novel I think Glen might have liked to have lived in (I know I do), Rich may *be* living in, Doug might wish he had written, and all the la

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

This is also why, when I talked with Sen Udall's staff about SOPA, they had a hard time understanding my input. They (and presumably all the staff of folks who introduced the bill) had no idea that there is almost no such thing as a "web-page" anymore. For Nick, et al, what you see when you se

Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

Sorry for the double post, but I thought a bit more info from below the fold of essay would help: For non-technologists, this is all a black box. That is a great success of technology: all those layers of complexity are entirely hidden and people can use them without even knowing that they exist a

[FRIAM] Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?

>From HN, a pointer to a delightfully clever essay that would be loved by Nick and others who are often bewildered by the hacker alphabet soup of acronyms and buzz words. Well, what _does_ happen when you got to a web page? https://plus.google.com/112218872649456413744/posts/dfydM2Cnepe https://n

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

glen wrote at 03/21/2013 06:36 AM: > I forget when I read it, though. I still have my copy > somewhere; perhaps there are notes or something that will remind me when > I read it first. Thanks. Yep. Sure enough I have page 314 starred: "We rode across Texas to Shreveport, Louisiana, where he le

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

Frank Wimberly wrote at 03/20/2013 02:59 PM: > Did you ever read that novel, Glen? When I read your post about > twitches I had the feeling it resonated with some memory. Then I > realized what it was. Aha! Yes. I _loved_ that novel, even read it twice. I completely forgot about it. I forge