Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

I'm disappointed. No one bothered to comment on or even notice my post on this subject. Here it is again. An easy way to agree with Hoffman and not get bent out of shape is to acknowledge that anything we think involves something being constructed in our heads. That construction is an idea -- or

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Physicists Are Philosophers, Too - Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/physicists-are-philosophers-too/ On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > M.

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by > default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time! Gil - I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Gil, An experiment: lightly wet the grounds with water before you put the basket in the coffee-maker. Notice how much water you can “get in”. Now, put the damp basket in the coffee maker and make the coffee as usual. Are you still missing some water? N Nicholas S. Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

M. M I am sure they were smart people, but did they know anything about the history and contemporary practice of philosophy, or were they starting from scratch. I guess I think that it’s almost as preposterous to say that a physicist can do philosophy as to say that a philosopher can do

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Ah ok thanks On Sep 19, 2017 3:50 PM, "Merle Lefkoff" wrote: > Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes > from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the > filter basket. There may well be something else

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Definitely the latter. They were a big help to me with my "Coexistence" modeling project. On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > M > > > > In what sense philosophers? They liked to entertain lofty thoughts? Or, > they were systematic thinkers in

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

M In what sense philosophers? They liked to entertain lofty thoughts? Or, they were systematic thinkers in relation to things beyond the realm of physics? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket. There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it. On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

Glen writes: "Making sense of the final configuration that seems to handle the I/O relation the way it "should", consists largely of studying the embedding of the configuration. The meaning comes from the interaction with what's out there, not some decoupled internal structure." To the

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

Something like what's discussed in the nytimes article *must* obtain for computers to ever be as embedded as the human brain. We can make an analogy that helps explain why RussA's reified ideas argument is (slightly) flawed, but satisficing for a seemingly large number of tasks. The analogy

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

[mixing threads] Mermin’s “Shut up and calculate” view which to me seems like agreeing to be blind because there is Braile. This to me has the same feel as agreeing that `real’ being whatever “a community of inquiry” says.How can one generate hypothesis in a productive way without any

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

An easy way to agree with Hoffman and not get bent out of shape is to acknowledge that anything we think involves something being constructed in our heads. That construction is an idea -- or an emotion, or whatever other modes of awareness we have. That seems to me to be tautological: we can think

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Nick, the quantum physicists that I worked with during my four years at CNLS were very much also philosophers. I think it kept them reasonably sane. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Marcus, > > > > To be honest, I have never seen what

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

On 09/18/2017 06:56 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/04/the-illusion-of-reality/479559/?utm_source=atlfb We've discussed Hoffman's ideas before. Lots of us played in that thread. The FriAM archives are down, I think. But here's the 1st post of the

[FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well. But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups. Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO I am genuinly perplexed by