Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

Hard to imagine a computer saying “that’s disgusting” with conviction. Ps: anyone know what happened to Jan Hauser? I can’t reach him from California.He did have a heart event' > On Oct 19, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > > The test is whether reasonably appropriate emotions arise

Re: [FRIAM] International firm to invest $254M in ABQ hydrogen factory -- ABQ Journal

I like the draconian idea of banning all cars. What to do with loans that remaining place? Where do we put them? How quickly can we get in place alternatives for commuting to school and work and the grocery store? Doug website

[FRIAM] Two thoughts : leaders can't and community might

1. We have no script we would want leaders to present. Cutting fossil fuel use would lead to cascading failures and no body wants to go there. Leaders have no idea what to do. 2. Atractive community in 2040. I have been working on Gardenworld as an intermediate goal.

[FRIAM] Fwd: ethical dilemma

I think it is on top of unemployment. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Marcus Daniels > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ethical dilemma > Date: February 4, 2021 at 9:15:25 PM PST > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world

With the election and work i have not kept up.. so this might be obvious but the origin of “logic” is the greek logos, which means structure. If we compare economy with ecology we see that nomos means man made law whereas logos is structure in nature. (even the old testament has in the begin

Re: [FRIAM] causality east and west

gt; Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of Douglass Carmichael > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 202

Re: [FRIAM] causality east and west

A causes B western view, straight arrow. The eastern view is look at the context of A and the context of B in widening circles of effects at some point the circles will intersect. In the western view secondary effects are discardedin the astern view secondary effect are primary.

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

We are stuck at the point where, to stay under 1.5 or 2, it is clear that we must cut fossil fuel extraction and use and there is no existing politics todo it because it mans loss of jobs, failures of mortgages, collapse of banks - and starvation. And this is Implies that we must move toward

Re: [FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

pside-down-and-what-to-do-about-it-2dc27d1cf5f5> > > ​Somewhat dark, but awfully close to home. > >-- Owen ​ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St

Re: [FRIAM] Isomorphism between computation and philosophy

Philosophy is very broad and includes many things like ethics and anesthetics. A good test case would be not logic, but poetry. Blessings, Doug http://dougcarmichael.com http://gardenworldpolitics.com On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

Phil writes. I think that would have the usual negative side effects of imposing political controls on 'free' markets. I think we have been led down the wrong path. Marts are free and interesting. Capitalism however is a process of control of markets, using the state apparatus and the very

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

The interesting option is to figure out what the Interesting options are. And that may be very difficult. The simplest would be to arrange regulation and taxation so that the curves of increasing concentration of wealth and income were turned in the opposite direction. That would allow some

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

Phil, I have been thinking about your comment that you will say something with implications and nobody responds, like your comment about an economic expansion based on our success till we collapse our environment by eating up our own surround. And then you raise the question of bomb hardening of