Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-17 Thread Douglas Roberts
Can you point to a study which validates this contention, Owen? Or is it more of an opinion? Mine (opinion) is that pessimism is largely born out of experience. --Doug On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Most pessimism comes from abstractions, not

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-17 Thread Owen Densmore
It's self observation: I am far more likely to become pessimistic over abstractions. Example: Santa Fe Police. Looked pretty grim in terms of capabilities and editorials in the news paper. Yet working with them showed them to be far more professional than I had thought. And I was told

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Smith
Douglas Roberts wrote: Can you point to a study which validates this contention, Owen? Or is it more of an opinion? My opinion is that both Pessimism and Optimism are born entirely out of abstractions, social expectations and possibly blood/brain chemistry. It is how we frame what we

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-17 Thread Douglas Roberts
I have a few similar, yet polar opposite examples: - I have good health coverage, on paper. In practice, United Health Care chose to disallow *every* claim we submitted over the past two years. We had to shove each and every claim down their collective throat to get reimbursed.

[FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread plissaman
Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb I have enjoyed the plethora of Wisdom apropos contemporary mores and innovation from Friam correspondents: finally a reply is irresistible.    But I can respond only with banal facts I have personally experienced and know to be true. On dumth: I have

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From: To: friam@redfish.com Sent: 2/16/2010 2:34:04 PM Subject: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb I have

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Robert Holmes
*To: *fr...@redfish.com *Sent:* 2/16/2010 2:34:04 PM *Subject:* [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb I have enjoyed the plethora of Wisdom apropos contemporary mores and innovation from Friam correspondents: finally a reply is irresistible. But I can

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Peter, Can we expect an analysis? ;-) http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/2010-February/012181.html FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives,