Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-06 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
exity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Vladimyr, You thank Stephen Guerin [st...@redfish.com] and Owen Densmore [o...@redfish.com] who got it started more than 12 years ago, and you thank Frank Wimberly (Frank Wimberly [wimber...@gmail.com], who arrives faithfully e

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Nick Thompson
December 05, 2016 8:57 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Nick Take a deep Breath and slowly listen to your Prophetic words. Your metaphor has enormous potential and may seem to some overly generous . Yet it may

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Steven A Smith
Frank - I don't know the answers to your questions. I can say that an anti-Trump theme has been prominent. I don't think there was much optimism for Sanders's chances nor for those of the 3rd party candidates. There was a moment when one attendee was lamenting the poor choices available. I

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Marcus Daniels
you get a fragmented America (many parts). Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Steven A Smith Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:28:37 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Frank - I was not admonishing

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Vladimyr vib From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson Sent: December-05-16 11:34 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Sorry, Vladimyr, My Bad. “the mother church” and “the di

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
Steve, I don't know the answers to your questions. I can say that an anti-Trump theme has been prominent. I don't think there was much optimism for Sanders's chances nor for those of the 3rd party candidates. There was a moment when one attendee was lamenting the poor choices available. I said

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Steven A Smith
Frank - I was not admonishing you, but DO admit that I assumed you were speaking to the "congregation at large" not merely the attendees at "the Mother Church"... As you know I DO occasionally attend High Mass at the Fri(day)AM with ritual consumption of the blood of Complexity Yak (aka Cof

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Owen Densmore
BTW: This was the NYTimes explanation on why this is of the same type as brexit: Ostensibly the vote was about arcane changes to Italy’s Constitution that would have streamlined government. But opposition to the proposals came from the same anti-establishment sentiment — spiked with skepticism of

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Owen Densmore
​Italy seems to be regressing as well, although this was not an EU vote, but pundits felt its defeat would indicate an anti-EU sentiment. Anyone have an explanation of the ramifications of the defeat? -- Owen ROME — Italy plunged into political and economic uncertainty

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-05 Thread Nick Thompson
, 2016 12:36 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Nice to hear from Jochen seems like a long absence. The political weather seems to have become more turbulent. The directional Vectors from Italy and Austria only

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
that Trump will be impeached within 24 months. Vladimyr vib From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: December-04-16 6:28 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Divided America In Europe people are shocked about the

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Carl Tollander
kthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof > David West > *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:01 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Divided America > > > > Nick, > > &

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Nick Thompson
earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 7:44 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Fr

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Frank Wimberly
Thanks, Steve. I should have been explicit that I was thinking of the dozen or more people who sit around the table on Friday mornings when I said Friam was overwhelmingly pro Clinton. I sometimes forget about the couple hundred(?) who read the list but may not even live in Santa Fe. I apologize

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Steven A Smith
Frank - I like Jochen's contrast (literal/serious vs serious/literal) and was mildly shocked he would ask the question so boldly here. I don't mind, but have felt that everyone was avoiding any discussion outside of my lame attempts to get a discussion about the election framed within the m

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Marcus Daniels
lf of Prof David West Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:00:38 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Nick, The mother church does have one "trumper" — in the sense that I believe he is a potential antidote for a whole series of toxic trends in the body politic and a

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Gary Schiltz
; > > Thanks again for writing. > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.co

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Prof David West
thlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank > Wimberly *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 7:44 AM *To:* The Friday > Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* > Re: [FRIAM] Divided America > &

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Owen Densmore
>From the Santa Fe newspaper, support for Frank: New Mexico goes its own way http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/roundhouse-roundup-new-mexico-goes-its-own-way/article_9cdebaed-520c-525a-9cb6-de6f41742291.html On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Friam wa

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Nick Thompson
nk.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 7:44 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Divided America Friam was overwhelmingly pro Clinton and Sa

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Marcus Daniels
_ From: Friam on behalf of Jochen Fromm Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:28:18 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Divided America In Europe people are shocked about the results of the American presidential election. What is your opinion in N

Re: [FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Frank Wimberly
Friam was overwhelmingly pro Clinton and Santa Fe strongly pro Clinton. She won in New Mexico. I am sure I will be corrected if necessary. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Dec 4, 2016 5:28 AM, "Jochen Fromm" wrote: > In Europe people are shocked about the results of the American >

[FRIAM] Divided America

2016-12-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
In Europe people are shocked about the results of the American presidential election. What is your opinion in NM, will the new president Trump make America great again or will he lead America into some form of cronyism, nepotism, fascism or even totalitarianism? American itself seems to be deepl