Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Steve Smith
Awesome Frank! Mine was a PERL script that served up Gopher File Trees as HTML via HTTP when the only graphical browser was on the NeXT.  You should have heard the screams when after a couple of years,  we quit serving up the old Gopher trees, there was no

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
Is generator the right word? It sounds like you want a system to manage files and folders, is that right? For what-what-it's-worth. HTML templates is a fine way to start. historically wordpress, drupal and the like were popular because, they just worked.. Though I'd say the same about good ol

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Owen Densmore
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Have you started building the site generator? > Not yet, and not sure I'll do my own. It was just that the webgl mooc experience lead me to understand sorta how they work so I thought I'd see how well the

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
“I have decided to narrow it down to node+javascript, of which there are plenty.” https://github.com/IonicaBizau/node-cobol/blob/master/README.md FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Owen Densmore
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Is generator the right word? > ​Yes. It's called that because you do an initial setup which establishes the basic layout of the site. Then when you add content, Markdown files generally, ​you run a CLI tool that

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
YES, Well good ol'fation HTML with CSS has worked since the lasted from 70s to present. With Linx. I haven't a clue if it's a over complicated thing or just right tool for the job thing, it might be a little of both. Sufficed to say they they're strength is making a a few pages with a template.

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:39:14AM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: > YES, Well good ol'fation HTML with CSS has worked since the lasted from 70s > to present. > With Linx. Wow - you were WAY ahead of your time! Given that HTML and the web wasn't invented until about 1990, and Linus started writing

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:18:09PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: > And thread topic Integrity Field Deterioration initiated. > > According to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser > > Text based web browsers were around in some form since the 80's, (for > example) Not web

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Here is the first HTML page I ever created in 1992(?). http://www.Phil.CMU.edu/~wimberly/ View source. It may also be the last. I changed the photo and added to the publications list. I added the applet in about 1996. I am surprised it still renders. Frank Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Phone

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
And thread topic Integrity Field Deterioration initiated. According to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser Text based web browsers were around in some form since the 80's, (for example) and most importantly it was a razzing but I suspect you know that. ^_^ or hope you

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread glen
I have no idea how they formatted it; and I suspect the graphics were like ANSI. But I was using this monstrosity in the early '80s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel I experienced my first virtual crush on a chatter named Anastasia... at that age, the name, itself was enough. 8^)

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
then. So much wasted energy making pretty pages… Marcus From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:18 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Gen

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-12 Thread Gillian Densmore
Yes and no. The short answer is that there are some file and folder systems out there. Kirb that was mentioned is unique in that it's (sort of) shareware, It's my understanding so is pulse, and and grav. For the most part there still in the 'for developers' stage. Where there are all manner of

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-12 Thread Gillian Densmore
To keep the conversation going and because I suspect you're doing the Cool Book On The Coffee Table stunt: http://www.queness.com/post/16142/11-lightning-fast-flat-file-cms http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/data-management-roundups/8-fantastic-lightweight-cmses-you-should-try/ Try a few and see

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-12 Thread Owen Densmore
I guess I should be clear about why I'm looking for a static site generator. CMSs, to me, isolate me from my site. If I want to change to a different technology, I have to fight MySql & PHP, both pretty old and showing their flaws. I'm also separated from my content itself. So if I have a

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-12 Thread Gary Schiltz
Have you started building the site generator? On Monday, October 12, 2015, Owen Densmore wrote: > I guess I should be clear about why I'm looking for a static site > generator. > > CMSs, to me, isolate me from my site. If I want to change to a different > technology, I have

[FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Owen Densmore
Are any of us using a static site generator? Here's a list: https://www.staticgen.com/ ​Basically it gets rid of the need for a Content Management System, compiling the site from Markdown and html templates. I'm thinking of doing this, my old ISP died and it would be a good time for a change.

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Owen, et al., You might also try this nearly-free ($17) , well-supported , database-free CMS

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Russell Standish
Probably not what you want, but I author all my websites in LaTeX, and use a combination of LaTeX2HTML and Makefiles to publish the site. I use subversion or git to do content management. You could also use latexml, which provides a slightly more modern output, but I like LaTex2HTML because its

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Russell Standish
It's odd. I've been building websites in LaTeX for more than 20 years now. Much of what passes for modern (eg markdown, CMSes, FrontPage and so on) just seem to be reinvented wheels, poorly implemented. Having chosen my horse, and invested heavily in it, LaTeX just keeps delivering. Such as

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Gary Schiltz
Hey Russell, in case it wasn’t clear, please understand that I was making a joke with a (probably overly obscured) compliment. I very much admire folks who use manual tools like LaTeX and Emacs, and also like a lot of what I know of Australian culture. Although “Crocodile Dundee” was an absurd

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Gary Schiltz
Okay, so the scene is a bit more complex than I had remembered. Everything’s available on Youtube these days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Hey Russell, in case it wasn’t clear, please understand

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:16:55PM -0500, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Hey Russell, in case it wasn’t clear, please understand that I was > making a joke with a (probably overly obscured) compliment. I very > much admire folks who use manual tools like LaTeX and Emacs, and also > like a lot of what I