Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking video

2011-07-05 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Thompson Sent: July-02-11 10:47 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking Vladimyr, I love it! I am going on a trip, so unless my host is particularly forgiving

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-07-02 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking So here's a vortex game for you all. There is a fleet of sail boats racing from Newport, Rhode Island across the Atlantic to the mouth of the English Channel. If you go to http://www.nyyc.org/transatlantic/ and click on [Tracker] you'll get a map of the North Atlantic

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-07-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking Hello All, Years ago I ran some funky little tests spinning liquid epoxy on a platter to attempt perfect parabolas. The equations required angular velocity and viscosity to get the correct equation for curvature

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-06-30 Thread Eric Smith
Nick, hi, This time I really, really am under the gun and have no business answering. But you are not being foolish. You are pushing correctly on a set of statements that are not a principle. As Steve and Peter and others have said, the only way to properly handle this is actually to work out

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-06-30 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking Nick, hi, This time I really, really am under the gun and have no business answering. But you are not being foolish. You are pushing correctly on a set of statements that are not a principle. As Steve and Peter and others have said

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-06-30 Thread Eric Smith
Oops! I need to make an emendation: It was Roger Critchlow who sent all the Dill papers whenever-it-was, perhaps a year ago. I remain equally grateful, this time to the right person. Many thanks, Eric FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-06-30 Thread Steve Smith
On 6/30/11 8:02 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Thanks, Eric, for taking the question seriously. I will study your answer with care. Ask a simple question, and waddya get? Another day older and deeper in (conceptual) debt! Eric says: All these flow problems that we talk about are not

[FRIAM] symmetry breaking

2011-06-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
In an offline conversation about my open letter, somebody asked me what symmetry breaking was; Here was my answer. Symmetry breaking is Guerin/Kaufman talk. Something like this: Just before Benard cells form, the fluid is symmetrical horizontally (Kaufman/Guerin talk for uniform), although