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2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
<> I have been far more afraid of a major regression to our democracy than any compulsion to pursue the kind of progressive efforts I would try to advance. I don't think my fear was misplaced.I take some comfort that I was not alone in this. Kind of like that feeling after 9/11 that

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2016-11-08 Thread Owen Densmore
Twitter is, oddly enough, one of the most interesting live election programs. Weird. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > Wow, 538 has huge turn around: > > [image: Inline image 1] > FRIAM

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2016-11-08 Thread Owen Densmore
Wow, 538 has huge turn around: [image: Inline image 1] FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC

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2016-11-08 Thread glen ☣
There's a lot to [dis]agree with, here. >8^D But I'll start with the thing I mostly agree with: the damage being done to our culture is a function of the language we use. I don't think Trump or his ilk are the cause, though. They're the symptom. The cause is electronic communication.

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2016-11-08 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - I appreciate the nuance here. I have been dealing with crypto-fascists all of my life... we have discussed the libertarian vs the Libertarian, I have endured the years where Lefty political correctness was approaching fascism and I have had to endure the Righty style fascism that

Re: [FRIAM] Please I need help with a technical term

2016-11-08 Thread Russ Abbott
If you are talking about “S. is a sign to I. of O.” I would call that a ternary relation: isASignOfTo (S, O, I). (Notice I switched the O and the I.) So the triple ("hello", greeting, Nick) is a triple in the isASignOfTo relation. I don't know that there are standard terms for the individual

Re: [FRIAM] Please I need help with a technical term

2016-11-08 Thread glen ☣
It seems we're conflating relations with operators. The sense of "argument" is that of operand, which can be just an input to an operator or just an output, or both an input and an output. The operand is a possibly dynamic thing operated on by the operator. I don't think you want that

Re: [FRIAM] Please I need help with a technical term

2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick, You might look at SPARQL. Purely functional logic languages like Mercury provide general ways to formulate things the way Dave describes, but adding strong typing so that one can be sure the desired form is provided. Marcus

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2016-11-08 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi, Dave, Thanks so very much for answering. Everybody else seems to be lost to me in the election. There is something that puzzling about your answer. The example you used as an example against my usage seems (to me) to confirm it! Such is my confusion. heyYouDoThis

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2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
I wonder how many people that fit Coulter’s constraint (me) would be willing to delegate their vote to others? Can I specify it be to a Hispanic illegal immigrant in Florida that would like to be a registered democrat? Can I pay their employer to give them the day off and pay a reliable

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2016-11-08 Thread Roger Critchlow
The flaw with Coulter's argument, I realized as walking to the poll, is that there wouldn't be any filthy grandson of a German immigrant on the ballot for all those three generation born in americans to vote into office. In fact, I expect that there would be a fairly tiny population of people

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2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: "Gary and Jill (and the others) may be irrelevant in the sense that neither has a chance of "winning the contest", but I would claim that yet another presumed irrelevant (Bernie Sanders) HAS significantly shaped the discussion and possibly the shape of Hillary's platform and

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2016-11-08 Thread ┣glen┫
I like the ANN analogy more than the JIT one... though perhaps my understanding of either is flawed. The JIT analogy is stronger, I think, because ANNs aren't (?) typically capable of multi-domain classification (right?). The extent to which they can operate over a space on which they're not

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2016-11-08 Thread Steven A Smith
Gary - I agree that in the sense of the stakes being *very very* high, this is not a game. But winning the contest IS about strategy and tactics as much (or more) than it is about representing the will and interests of the citizenry. And I find that deeply sad. In that sense, our

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2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
In contrast to this one. http://www.thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 8:34 AM To: The Friday Morning

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2016-11-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
A neural net trained to discriminate between nuances in one environment (H) would need to get re-trained (or I'd say untrained) to the D environment. The signals in H type environments are higher dimensional, coupled, and non-linear compared to the D environment which is made up of many more

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2016-11-08 Thread ┣glen┫
Right. It's not quite right to suggest that switching codes is bimodal or bivalent. I think it's more of a spectrum, at least in an informal sense. If we were talking about a person trying to communicate a complex idea in a non-native language then switching to their native language, that

Re: [FRIAM] Please I need help with a technical term

2016-11-08 Thread Prof David West
Nick, one of the computer scientists can answer more definitively, but your use of argument in the passage is inconsistent with the everyday programming usage. Good programs are modularized with specific computational abilities isolated within discrete modules. Frequently, one part of the program

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2016-11-08 Thread Gary Schiltz
Well put. This is not a game. On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, Marcus Daniels wrote: > "The fact that world H and world D are such closely adjacent possibles is > what I am savoring (in the sense of morbid fascination) for roughly the > next 24-36 hours. " > > To first order,