Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-28 Thread Eric Charles
Glen... I quite confused as to what you mean by tight and loose control... Let us take the case of belief in a tight relationship between my height off the ground and my likelihood of being injured in a jump. If I firmly believe that, then whether or not I jump is tightly coupled with the height.

[FRIAM] Whorfianism and Xibipio

2018-03-28 Thread Steven A Smith
I've not participated in this discussion of  Peirciean Pragmatism for many reasons including a lack of firsthand knowledge of Peirce's work (to even vaguely approach that of Nick or Eric for example.   The talk of control loops, habits, belief and coupling with reality vs coupling with beliefs was

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-28 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
To be a little more concise, Peirce's position on "self-control" is irrelevant to this point. Where the agency lies is irrelevant. This point is that Peircian belief and Peircian doubt seem well-elaborated by the concept of the looseness and tightness of the feedback loop between reality and

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-28 Thread Nick Thompson
Glen, I am very ambivalent about the notion of "self-control". I think for Peirce it was limited to where we direct our attention. But that seems to concede too much of a dualism. But I am still in transit. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-28 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
Yes! I've been talking (mostly) about the selection of habits/beliefs by the environment, as opposed to the selection of theories about reality. In the former, the "agent" is reality, whereas in the latter, the agency belongs with the holder of the theories. If we take what Peirce is saying