[FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread ┣glen┫
http://nautil.us/blog/the-problem-with-the-mutation_centric-view-of-cancer > How should we study the origins of cancer? > > My lab has been researching the origins of cancers for the last 15 to 17 > years. We’re trying to understand cancer from an evolutionary viewpoint, > understanding how

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread ┣glen┫
Yes, absolutely chemotherapy would alter (I don't know about "reset") the micro-environments. I think this is the essence of Longo's fasting argument. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170216103923.htm Since chemo is essentially a targeted poison, though, you have to wonder

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "Non-poison therapies like stem cells or antibodies would be doubly uncertain because, at least with any poison, you'll be forcing your body to fight for life and scarce resources (ATP, sugar, ...). " I mean to balance culling of developed/adapted cells, it would be good to have

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "In order to *perform* as a whole body, whatever supplements you're providing to promote one thing over another, you are also curtailing everything else. The body reacts to extreme exercise in the same way it reacts to fasting, by restricting which systems get the extra juice."

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread Marcus Daniels
Wouldn't chemotherapy also reset the the micro-environments? Has chemotherapy ever been given to animals before they have cancer to see if it has a preventative function? Could one imagine healthy people above a certain age (esp. the Elysium 1%) getting stem cell transplantation every few

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread ┣glen┫
On 09/04/2017 01:26 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I mean to balance culling of developed/adapted cells, it would be good to > have stored blueprints in a refrigerator somewhere so that the poison doesn't > harm them. I don't understand what you're saying, really. If we refine chemo so that it

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread ┣glen┫
Exactly. And I think it also applies solely within fasting. Contrast these Silicon Valley guru types who are fasting mostly for the nootropic effects versus, say, someone fasting to lower their insulin resistance are likely to engage in different behaviors during their fasting. Which

Re: [FRIAM] The Problem with the Mutation-Centric View of Cancer

2017-09-04 Thread Nick Thompson
Marcus and Glen, As it happens, I am finishing the last chapter of THE EMPEROR OF MALADIES