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> Hi, I'd like to include this misc cleanups and typo fixes patch before
> release, please review.
Thanks, please go on.
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> > > The file just invokes ')compile' but I see no .spad file.
>
> I am sorry. Now the .spad file is attached as well.
Well, we have:
(7) -> s::QETATTS(QETATS(FRAC(IN
application code. Anyway, to tools
that look at ELF executable sections the two binaries appear
identical, but they are significantly different.
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es. Before the problem is
solved it is hard to say if you see one of know bugs or a new bug.
Or maybe the case above works as designed due to some unexpected
coincidence.
It seem that Weber paper which was in reference section on the wiki
gives outline of the method.
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course, I need to avoid unstable dependencies (or at least have
some way to tame them), otherwise I would be hostage to other
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than many other changes.
In fact, supposedly innocent change can lead to breakage. What
was different was late testing. Fortunately Peter made progress
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some "basis"
> polynomials bi(j,j17) where p is of degree < [17,17] in both series.
> Then I multiply the result with j and reduce again by the basis. I need
> roughly 300 of these rounds, but get my memory full in round 200.
It looks that your reduction step is likely to creat
h hsbcl and no quicklisp and installed jfricas on top
> of this. The whole thing works with hsbcl and the current master.
> No additional patches from my side are required. In other words, if a user
> provides a version of SBCL that lets webspad start hunchentoot
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> https://github.
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> > Go on!
>
> There is branch with proposed changes prepared by Ralf Hemmecke:
I have now commited changes from that branch which looked good.
As
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time ./build_hsbcl > rap1 2>&1
this creates executable called 'hsbcl' which can be used to
build FriCAS.
If that is enough for jfricas, then I will do something similar for
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Aldor version?
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sieve.as is supposed to work also without Aldor interface. But
after recent changes from '$' to '%' few things get broken. One
fix is commited, but there is second one which still is not
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>> Apparent user error:
>NoValueMode
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You need also earlier tensor-related changes. When you fetch
sources via git you will get complete set of changes.
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I wrote about idea of partial exposure: if we could control exposure
for each function, we could mark unwanted variant as unexposed.
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the required return type,
> or "$" to specify which version of the function you need.
>
> (25) ->
>
>
> Just wondering, is the tensor product, TA, only a vector-space
module
or is it an
> algebra too?
No, ATM one needs to define ring/algebra structure separ
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> > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:47:37AM +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> > > Thank you, Peter, for investing your time into
ood).
3) I am not sure about change to trace.boot, but it is likely to
be wrong.
4) For Aldor you probably only need changes to as.boot and 3 of the
changes to interop.boot.
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> type, then they are OK. But 'setelt!' is special, it works by
> > side effect, so it must work on argument "as given" and can
> > not coerce it to new type (which would create copy).
>
> Yes. Clear. Do you mean the problem is that setelt! is currently not treated
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> > In mail from 4 Nov 2019 Johannes Grabmeier proposed extending
> > two dimensional arrays to work as matrices of matrices.
>
> Link:
> https://www.mail-
s to preserve sign of determinanat. Row swap multiplies sign
> > of determinant by -1, so we need to compensate this.
>
> Yes, now it's clear.
>
> Would you mind if I propose a patch with some more hints in the code?
> (see pull request at github)
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> https://github.c
of odd row swaps?
'ans' is to preserve sign of determinanat. Row swap multiplies sign
of determinant by -1, so we need to compensate this.
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needed to turn elements below diagonal into zeros.
'LUDecomp' has restrictions (I think that it wants nonzero
pivot in each column), but there is generalization without
such restriction (I have uncommited version which I developed
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M1 has FreeModuleCategory(R, B1)
and similarly for M2. But AlgebraGivenByStructuralConstants does
not have FreeModuleCategory. So one needs to modify
AlgebraGivenByStructuralConstants to add FreeModuleCategory
and implement needed functions. See attached (only lightly tested)
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> > Well, that is "fit into available window&q
ive.
Well, that is "fit into available window" feature. Click on Units
button in control panel to turn Unit on, you will see that function
values change much more than arguments.
And what did you expect? Having ony small part of the graph and
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> de...@fricas.math.uni.wroc.pl wrote:
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>
> judging from what you said, this command:
en I compile sieve.as against the libfricas.al from that version, only
> sieve.fasl is different. So the problem must lie inside libfricas.al.
Clearly this is problem of incompatiblity of runtimes. Something
must still assume that FriCAS function signatures contain '$'.
One point is that 'hashTyp
to decide how big the
window should be and what font size to use.
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any of my machines (due to an autotools problem). And old
Aldor would not do due to incompatible changes.
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have more detailed
control. For example consider constructor as exposed only
when arguments satisfy specific conditions? Or maybe hide
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of issues (dependency on SSL) is resolved. But there are
other, and progress here requires cooperation. Which brings
communication delays. So this is definitely not thing that
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> > There is also another thing: when given option 'polar' our code
> >
near transform this will be
curved, so to represent it accurately we need intermediate points.
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> fiddle around with SBCL_HOME.
OK, I will how this works.
> I'm a bit busy with other things, but will try to open a pull request on
> github so that we can discus further on the PR and hopefully Kurt will then
> also chime in and comment.
You gave me above branch to fetch,
specified by FRICAS
environment variable. Currently for Lisp files I use simple
approach: everything that is needed is loaded and dumped as part
of core. I am not sure if this will work for hunchentoot,
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returns false. If 'empty?' returns true, then there are no
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'polar_to_cartesian' (our current 'polar') and 'cartesian_to_polar'
(we do not have it now). But I somewhat dislike so long names.
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view documentation via hyperdoc, so I see real thing (dumps
are "texonly"). AFAICS creating new dumps is not that much
work, but this is manual process that must be repeated for
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can I do that in SPAD?
AFAIK ATM there is no way. The attached patch tries to add Aldor way
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(: expn (Record (: base $) (: expo
> (NonNegativeInteger (: elem B))
> $f:=
> |c| # #) (|x| # #) (|case| #) (|elt| #) ...)))
>
>>> Apparent user error:
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> is an unknown mode
Using recent trunk I see % in compiler messages.
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>
> Well, I did and realized that the content does not agree with reality.
> Or maybe I am not smart enough to find a button labelled "Linage". Grepping
> through the FriCAS sources doesn't find anything for "Lineage".
I not sure why you wri
irst search where order of arguments to Join gives order
on parents.
It is probably not wise to depend on order being depth-first (people
may change order of arguments to Join), but within linear inheritance
chain order should be reliable.
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> > draw(t=1, t, r, range == [-%pi..%pi, -3..3], coordinates==polar)
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> plots a vertical line again as if the coordinates are still Cartesian.
Yes, plots for solutions to equations ignore option for coordinates
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Example from the FriCAS book:
draw(x * y = 1, x, y, range == [-3..3, -3..3])
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> > If that goes in, it will go together with test which can serve as
> > example. Also, 'scope' is part of internal machinery which should be
> > ignorable except
to fractions. Cramer formulas
may lead to exponential complexity and are likely to be slower than
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> On 17.04.23 02:52, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > Some time I wrote about scope markers. Now I have trial
> > implementation (attached patch).
>
> > W
version).
Compile the attached Spad file. Then ')read' the attached
input file. Final line of outut is:
1 2 11
(17) B + 3 A + (3 B + 2 A)11 + (10 B + 5 A)11 + O(11 )
Type:
ModuleTaylorSeries(Fraction(Integer),AlgebraGivenByStructuralCons
> axFormatType(typeform) ==
> atom typeform =>
> typeform = '$ => '% <-
> STRINGP typeform =>
> ['Apply,'Enumeration, INTERN typeform]
Yes, we should special case '% like in attached patch.
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> > For many years internally Spad compiler and interpreter renamed
> > '%' to '$' and internally used '$'. I have now commited a patch
> > that disables this renaming so that '%' from source is internally
> &g
and interpreter, but main
gain should be in debugging: Lisp data structures should be
more similar to Spad source, so easier to interpret.
There is also related cost: patch touches a lot of places in
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usually pretty hard to decipher.
I would not call this "bug". You example is an easy one, but
there are fundamental limitations what Spad-like compiler can
do in such cases. I wonder what Aldor reports for such code?
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bably just stores info that
'qetaGrade' from '%' to ZZ is available. But at point of use
'%' has wrong meaning.
Yes, Spad compiler should properly track meaning of '%'. But
in this case using F is clearer both for compiler and readers
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If all what you want is printing, then you should be able to
produce printouts using digits extraction (say via 'approximate').
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p-adic rationals is unimplemented. But
it would be easy to add it.
In general,
x - approximate(x, 0)::PR
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level.
The patch only handles SUP. There is regression: 'precodition'
replaces scope markers as needed, but when outputting type we
do not call 'precodition', so scope markers appear in output of
types. I am working on this, will wri
to force it
on any pretext or not. If you do not force it, then you gained nothing.
OTOH if you force it then you could use List from the start.
Current design allow you to add trivial functions like
partition_list(n) == complete(partitions(n))
or maybe
partition_list(n) == entries(complete(
7 8 9
10 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13 + 9 13
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g, that is thing which is supposed to work, but does not
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Rubey tried "Pyton in Lisp" package. The
idea was to run Pytion code from FriCAS and in that way get access
to Sage. IIRC this worked fine for pure Pyton, but Sage is
kind of opposite to "pure Python": most code is in external
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r 'rlwrap', but ATM I found them good
enough.
Concerning ')spool', I do not think that we should keep current
implementation. OTOH we should clean out our input-output machinery
and with cleaned up implementation correct implementation of ')spool'
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> On 07.04.23 01:14, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 10:13:56AM -0700, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> > > The wiki is still down. Any chance that it will come back soon?
> > > Ralf
> > >
On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 10:13:56AM -0700, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> The wiki is still down. Any chance that it will come back soon?
> Ralf
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:05:47 PM UTC+1 Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>
> > There is something wrong with Wiki virtual machine, so for no
functions: we obtained
numeric values instead of symbolic ones. This was fixed adapting
current structure (or, more precisely removing deviations from
used pattern).
BTW: If you name your package JuliaDoubleFloatSpecialFunctions,
then interpreter will treat is as "associated" packag
ould clearly know that d is (or can be coerced to PI so why not
> trying that in the (f-f) case?
That looks like a bug.
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cl has problem, FriCAS needs
working Lisp, so this must be resolved first. For native sbcl
normal way is to compile it using earler version of sbcl.
sbcl folks provide binary of sbcl-2.1.2 for Darwin on ARM64, which
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ormal form of expressions which forces normalization
and expansion. Normalization means that internally integrator
may use different kernels than what is in user input, and preservation
is currently limited to kernels. I have some ideas to how to preserve
more but that needs new code and effect will be l
ot transform
this back to 'tan' form or maybe it considers version in terms
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> same reason.
Yes, this one (and other timeouts) is FriCAS weakness. I mentioned it
as one that should be improved. But now marking it as failure
is right thing to do.
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2018*x^2017+2017*x^2016)/(x^4036+2*x^4035+x^4034+1)
cos(3*x)+sin(2*x)*(-sin(2019*x)+cos(3*x))
but first and third currently trigger costly transformations, that
could be avoided. Second looks inherently heavy when done by
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Just 'in-package' without extra stuff, like:
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> On 2/26/23 04:18, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 08:24:09AM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
> > > By using macros, this avoids code duplication.
> > >
> > > One minor ques
lity to documentation
Makefile. In documentation Makefile we can use conditionals to
enable only targets buildable without X. We already have logic
for pages depending on graphic (connection to X server). Such
logic should be more general.
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r compile sieve.as (is attached) with
> 68a3e8eee6d1dc20b925fd11220f38f2a033e027, because I get the following error.
> So this commit introduces a bug.
I seems that I missed one place that needed updating. Can you try
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That one looks OK. Sorry for delayed answer.
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changes to algebra, adding many new things and improving
old one. And while smaller, changes to other parts were
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> >= 2.6.13.
I think that keeping compatiblity with gcl-2.6.12 would be too
problematic. So yes, >= 2.6.13.
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For this one should check if 'config/fricas_c_macros.h' in build
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for all loadable compilations?
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 07:31:45PM +, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> FriCAS wiki will be down for some time.
Wiki should work.
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