Re: [Futurework] From memes to viruses?

2008-04-27 Thread tar
Oh, dear. I got the exact opposite impression about Tuchman's mirror  
when I read that book.  I thought the  1300s were a time of coming  
out of a stagnant social order  into the modern age, with a kick from  
the black death.

What happened  with  the famines and epidemics was that Europe's  
peasant population suddenly declined. Yet the lords still expected  
the same incomes as before. The Great Peasant revolt in France was  
viciously put down by the knights, but they could not get the  
peasants back on the estates.  The lords  had to start offering  
rented land at reasonable rates to get anybody to work the land.

The age of Serfdom ended. It had begun  eight centuries previously  
when the conquering Franks  set up a military government  after  
destroying the Gallo-Roman kingdom that existed for a short while  
after  the  fall of the western Roman empire.  They  made the Gallo- 
Romans serfs.

Far from the church developing more authority in this time, its power  
collapsed. This was the time of the great schism, when  there were  
two, sometimes three popes around, all claiming to be the real pope.

I get puzzled about somebody who thinks these medieval monks like
Abelard and Anselm were examples of enlightened thinking. The idea of  
'reason' has been the biggest problem with western civilization down  
to the present.

In the present, we are also struggling to come out of an outmoded  
form of social organization and those who benefit from this  
organization are resisting fiercely. But they are steadily losing  
authority. Good sense  eventually overcomes rationalism, but it  
usually takes a disaster like the black death, or  an environmental  
collapse.

Rationalists are people who can not get it that there  is no such  
thing as 'objectivity'.  Everyone's thought is   conditioned by  
experience and what they have been told and believed are 'laws of  
nature'. Good sense is the  innate human ability  to get outside of   
self and preconditioned thinking , and ask what is actually  
happening. Education is mostly about neutralizing this ability and  
conditioning people to think in  the 'rational' framework  hammered  
into them.

When people who have been taught to be 'reasonable' encounter  
something that contradicts 'reason' they cannot understand it and   
think  some 'forces of darkness' are gathering.

Actually,  the forces of good sense and  peacefulness are gathering.  
The dark forces that  have  prevailed are now frantically trying to  
make everything 'rational' again.

tr






On 26-Apr-08, at 3:47 PM, Ed Weick wrote:
 I've been looking through stuff I've written during the past few  
 years and found the following, which seems relevant to the  
 discussion of memes that has been a dominant feature of the  
 Dissenters list recently.  It may be of interest to some of you.

 Ed


 A Short Essay on Viruses

 Some recent postings have raised the fascinating topic of the  
 effect of disease on history. Recurrent pandemics such as bubonic  
 plague, cholera, typhus and influenza have played an enormous role  
 in defining the course taken by peoples for several centuries  
 thereafter. Syphilis has brought dynasties to ruin. The viruses or  
 bacteria which were at issue affected physical health. I would  
 suggest that another type of virus, a intellectual one, has been at  
 least equally potent in shaping human history. As an entity, we can  
 think of it as something like a computer virus - as something which  
 does not take the shape of an organism, but which is transmittable  
 from person to person nevertheless.

 What does this intellectual virus do? Just as biophysical viruses  
 sicken the body, it sickens and immobilizes the mind. It numbs and  
 dulls human potential, and plunges people into states of pessimism,  
 meanness and despair.

 The impact of this virus varies from civilization to civilization,  
 and from era to era. The Aztecs have recently been mentioned on  
 this list. Some years ago I did some reading on the Aztecs, and one  
 of the things I recall is that, for many years before the coming of  
 Cortez, the Aztecs were in a state of deep pessimism. They felt  
 their world to be ending. I believe it had something to do with  
 their calendar, a human invention which they invested with cosmic  
 powers. When Cortez finally came along, they were immobilized to  
 the point of not being able to do anything about him and his small  
 army. However, the facts of smallpox and rebellion by peoples the  
 Aztecs had subjugated did not help.

 Another example of the virus comes from the 11th to 14th Century  
 Europe. Led by activist thinkers such as Peter Abelard, and fed by  
 the accessibility of Arabic and Classical material, the 11th  
 Century witnessed an increasing secularization of the Christian  
 world, and an explosion of initiatives toward a more rational  
 theology, which laid the foundations for the development of  
 science. Heretical 

Re: [Futurework] From memes to viruses?

2008-04-27 Thread tar
I am wondering how many people  within  range  of this have read  
Jared Diamond's Collapse; how civilizations choose to succeed or  
fail. There are plenty of examples of  how societies chose to  
survive. Usually it  was by eliminating  class  structures and going  
to a peasant, egalitarian  type of society.

The  prime example of this  is the Maya of around 900 A.D.  The  
archeological record shows that  once all these palaces were smashed  
and the  human sacrificing priests were thrown off of their  step  
pyramids, the standard of living for the peasantry improved. They  
were   much better off for about 600 years until the   guys with the   
guns and crucifixes showed up from across the sea.

As Marx said, history is written by the ruling classes who do not  
like to believe that they might not be essential to society and do  
not want  the inferior classes to get the idea either.  I think the  
evidence from archeology to contemporary  observations show that
people are best off when you have a society of free  holding peasants  
with no ruler class.

Alas, most Marxists do not get that idea. They think all land should  
be  held in common. In many places it is and it works well, but only  
if the   critical level of government is the village.

Of course we now have industrialism  and most people are now living  
in cities.  That is a problem humanity has never faced before.

The good part of urbanization is that when people move from the  
country side into the cities, their birth rate drops drastically. The  
bad side is that, first, the environment gets  destroyed, and second,  
agriculture gets taken over by the urban economy. Both of these cause  
food production to drop.

So, I think too that there will be change, but I do not think it will  
be all that unpleasant if the  class war gets managed right. I am  
especially much more optimistic about peasant revolts. When the  
peasants are clear  about what they are  trying to achieve,  and do  
not let themselves be lead by fanatics and charlatans, they usually  
create a great improvement in  their  lot.

Besides the Maya, another good example is the slave revolt  on  
Haiti.  The slaves  took over the plantations, drove off  several  
French armies sent to re-enslave them, and   were a lot better off  
than they were before. However,  the great powers of the time  
persistently boycotted them and over time  this wore them down.

After Saint Patrick overcame the druids, the Irish developed a very  
peaceful, prosperous and egalitiaran society for about four centuries  
until the guys with the horns on their helmet showed up from across  
the sea.

Notice a pattern about peaceful agrarian societies? Almost all  caste  
or class oriented societies, the historians tell us, originated in a  
military conquest in which a technically superior or  just more  
aggressive  people found they could use a weaker people for their own  
benefit.

The thing is,  when societies start to fall apart because of the  
greed and  idiocy of  an elite,  it goes one of two ways. Either it  
collapses into a dark age, or  else the rulers are overcome and  you  
have an age of peace and freedom.

This is what is going to  be decided over the next 50 or so years. It  
looks pretty good  that the latter will happen, because the underdogs  
all over the world are developing pretty good leadership and  are  
sensible about  what they are trying to achieve. This is  what  
usually leads to success for  peasant and slave revolts.

The underdogs fail when they do not know what they want, only that  
they are  unhappy with what  they have. That is why the Jacquerie  
failed at first, and why Watt Tyler screwed up his rebellion in 1381,  
and why the Hussites failed in Germany.

In about the same time frame the Swiss freemen were spectacularly  
successful in defeating  the armies of the feudal warlords, Wallace  
and Bruce got the English out of Scotland for four centuries, and the  
Latvians fought off  waves of crusaders to remain a pagan and  
classless society.

Another thing happened in France, which was well discussed by  
Tuchman,  but otherwise not well recorded in history. After the   
black death and the failed peasant revolt, and the hundred years war,  
most of the nobility of northern France  allied with the English to  
kept the French peasants down.  King Charles the Wise of France  did  
something amazing for those times; he allied himself with the  
peasants against his nobles and the English, to regain control of his  
kingdom. His constable, Du Geusclin,  organized a very effective  
guerilla war, with a small professional army supporting  the armed  
peasants.

But enough of my ramblings.  My aim is to demonstrate that there is  
no reason to be pessimistic that  the species cannot get through the  
present crisis and achieve a better way of life for  all the world's  
people.

tr





On 27-Apr-08, at 4:52 PM, Ed Weick wrote:
 It is a long time since 

Re: [Futurework] Fw: English will be the official language

2008-04-11 Thread tar
Check out these  sites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unifon

http://www.unifon.org/htm/unifon%20alphabet.htm


Then, ask me why we continue to use such a ridiculous system of  
writing English.  As the article says, no other language except  
french and english are impaired by this idea  some batty academics  
have that  the spelling of words is  supposed to reflect its   
history, instead of how it is pronounced.

The only problem I find with UNIFON is that it is  done using a  
midwest American accent.  Even in unifon, 'zebra' ends with an A  not  
a U, and 'ark'  still starts with A not O.  But at least I can fix  
the problems myself and write with a proper Canadian, er, Kanajan,  
accent.   I can stop fighting with my spell checker over spelling  
'labor' as 'labour'.

By the way, it does not look like  anyone has designed an optimal  
unifon keyboard yet.

tr


On 11-Apr-08, at 4:41 PM, Ed Weick wrote:

 Subject:  English will be the official language

 The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby  
 English
 will be the official language of the European Union rather than  
 German,
 which was the other possibility.

 As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that
 English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- 
 year
 phase-in plan that would become known as Euro-English.

 In the first year, s will replace the soft c.  Sertainly , this  
 will
 make the sivil servants jump with joy.

 The hard c will be dropped in favour of k.  This should klear up
 konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

 There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the
 troublesome ph will be replaced with f.  This will make words like
 fotograf 20% shorter.

 In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted
 to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

 Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have
 always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

 Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent e in the languag
 is disgrasful and it should go away.

 By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing th
 with z and w with v.

 During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary o kan be dropd from vords  
 kontaining
 ou
 and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl.

 Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu
 understand ech oza.  Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

 Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted  
 in ze
 forst plas.

 If zis mad you smil , pleas pas on to oza pepl.



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[Futurework] responses

2008-01-15 Thread tar

Following up on my  “why we call it Citizen’s Income” piece  and   
reactions to it and other  ideas  people have put across; I don’t  
have any specific problem with anything anyone is saying.  But  I do  
not think much is going to come of these discussions.

It is as I said;  the people interested in a guaranteed income do not  
know enough yet.  Therefore, a  nation wide  organisation to promote  
a Citizen’s Income  is not going to happen just yet.  There is a lot  
of educating which has to be done, as well as some researching as to  
how best to promote  to the public a new type of society.

And, sorry folks,  talking about a guaranteed income or basic income  
in isolation from everything else is not going to go anywhere. I  
think I have had more experience than most people  on this list at   
talking up the concept with   various  kinds of people. I also know a  
little about framing. I would like to know a lot more.

Any kind of guaranteed income is a direct contradiction to the frame  
or paradigm  most North Americans have had rammed into their heads  
from a very early age. There simply are no answers to the objections   
to be raised about a  BI-GAI  within that frame.  You have to break  
the frame.

For example, you cannot argue  for a demogrant  from fairness.  What  
you get back is that  a bigai will be very unfair to  the people who  
will have to work harder to  support the people who  are ‘not pulling  
their weight’.  Some people with a philosophic bent are calling this  
the ‘lazy versus crazy’ or ‘free rider’ problem.  It is unanswerable  
on its own terms.

The  answer to all this is; “Nobody has any ‘weight’ to pull. There  
is  enough of every necessity for everybody. People who are working  
harder are doing so because they want to or believe they have to.   
There is no sense at all to keeping everybody working  40-60 hour   
weeks when  all material needs can be satisfied  with less than a  
twenty hour work week.

In the ‘lazy versus crazy’ parable, crazy is crazy not because she is  
working twice as hard to carry lazy, but because she  is wasting
the limited resources on their little desert island.

But the real world is not  one of these little castaway islands   
beloved by economics debaters.  We left the  neolithic age behind  
long ago.  We live in a sophisticated technological society with   
finished goods several stages removed from the resources  extracted  
in making them.  The technological machine has made it possible for  
us to produce everything we need with little effort  but we cannot  
make the mental adjustment to a world of leisure and abundance.  We  
still act like neolithic people.

We have  about fifty years to make  the mental changeover.  Then  we  
go back into a dark age for who knows how long.  The  climate change  
and  environmental contamination all around us is not  going to be  
solved by some modifications to  the existing economic structure.   
Talking about sustainable development is nonsense,  there is nothing  
which can be ‘developed’ indefinitely.

The breakdown of the natural environment is happening because we  are  
trying to take out of it more than it can give. The solution is to  
take less.  That means an end to the present economic system which  
depends on constant growth and the reification of money.  Reification  
is the fallacy of making a thing out of an abstract idea. Money is an  
abstract idea.

We are going to  organise a steady state economy, in which production  
is limited to what we can reasonably get from  the natural world  
given our technological level. This is going to happen one way or  
another. We are going back to the middle ages or we are going to  
develop a  kind of very big co-operative.

Now, what are you nattering at me about communism for? Who told you  
what communism is? Who told you what anarchism means? Who told you  
what libertarianism means? Who told you what democracy is?

The government of China still calls itself communist.  It is a  
totalitarian state running a system of state capitalism and beating  
the hell out of the  private  capitalists on this continent.  It has  
as much to do with communism as  the United States has to do with  
free markets or the vatican has to do with christianity; nothing.

Any time communism, or cooperativism because it means the same thing  
in effect, has had a chance to work, it has worked very well. So well  
in fact, that extreme efforts are  always made to stop it; for  
example, in the old Soviet Union under Stalin.

Yes, capitalism has worked very well for awhile, or corporatism, a  
much better word for it;  the control of society by and for large  
interests.  Then it destroys the  base on which it depends, because  
it requires constant growth in a finite world.  However the world is  
going to be run in the future, it will not be by  a system requiring   
interest  on money which must be repaid with wealth that does not  
exist when 

[Futurework] why we call it Citizen's Income

2008-01-14 Thread tar

There has never been a social policy without a social movement  
capable of imposing it - Pierre Bourdieu, acclaimed French sociologist

‘Citizen’s Income Toronto’ was founded in 2007 to make a start at  
building a new social movement. The  idea of ending poverty by simply  
ending it, by ensuring everybody has enough  money to live on without  
condition, is  old. It has been simmering away for centuries but has  
been coming to the boil in this century.

There is a growing realisation around the world that the capitalist/ 
imperialist/corporatist age is coming to a close. For the first  
time,  there is a world wide consensus about what the alternative is.  
It is not a Marxist,  anarchist, socialist, pacifist, or libertarian  
utopia, but takes  ideas from all of these.

There appear to be three  arms or basic principles  to this evolving  
order.  One is  participatory democracy. One is an ecologically  
balanced, co-operative, and steady state economy. The other is a  
guaranteed,  basic, adequate, unconditional  income for everyone.

None of these will work without the others. To have a participatory  
democracy, everyone must have the time   and material well-being to  
be able to participate. People will never consent to an end to growth  
and to the overuse of the natural resource base, unless they can be  
guaranteed an equitable sharing out of the limited wealth available  
from the natural world and our existing technology. The only way to   
negotiate an equitable distribution  is through a true democracy, in  
which everyone  can really participate.

Canadians are starting to understand that there  cannot be infinite  
economic growth in a finite world. We also have a movement for   
democratic reform in  Canada. Several attempts have now been made to  
establish a proportional representation voting system in  provincial  
government.

Canadians are  starting to be aware of the  concept of participatory  
government. A few of our municipal governments  have experimented  
with it.  The model for it is the system  of Porto Allegre in Brazil.  
There, the entire population is allowed to participate in local  
planning councils which decide  the city budgets and many planning  
issues.

What people  from  places where participatory  democracy is in use  
notice when they observe political meetings in Canada is that we rush  
decisions through, without taking time to hear all points of view.  
What these people tell us is that   true democracy takes time and we  
have to give ourselves time.

But Canadians are  among the most overworked people on earth. Our  
civil society, community  groups, neighbourhood associations, have   
largely collapsed because  there is no one to keep them going. The  
command of our economic masters to work, work, work, or  be thrown  
literally into the gutter, is as much about social control  as it is  
about  productivity.

There are many reasons for the voting reform and economic/ 
environmental movements to support each other and the  citizen’s  
income movement. When everyone who wants to can participate, these  
movements will become unstoppable forces. People must win for  
themselves the time to be  active citizens in a participatory  
democracy, as well as to enjoy more time for themselves. And a  
shortened work week is the solution for over production and   
depletion of the environment.

In the next fifty years humanity will either transform into a new  
kind of society and economy based on co-operation rather than  
competition, or will collapse into a dark age. In western  
civilisation, we  have had examples of free citizens  managing their  
communities; the Greek city states,  the free cities of the middle ages.

They failed because of outside pressure but also  because  the  need  
for productivity forced some  people into subordination to others.  
Now technology gives us a global world and frees us from most of the  
need for work. The idea of active citizenship  in a participatory  
democracy gives us the principle for managing this new kind of society.

‘Citizenship’ still seems absurd to those Canadians in precarious  
employment. But if our situation is going to improve, we need to  
become active citizens. A guaranteed income will not be graciously  
bestowed upon us. We need to learn the self organising skills  that  
will enable us to  gain it, and then to  maintain it.

naming the rose

Right now the great debate  is on over what exactly to name the  
concept of giving  everybody enough money  to either survive or  to  
live adequately. The terms  ‘Basic Income’  and Guaranteed Income’  
and ‘Guaranteed Adequate Income’ and even ‘Guaranteed Annual Income’  
are now popular. ‘Mincome’ and ‘Guaranteed Minimum Income’ are  
falling into disuse.

There is also debate about the amount  to be ‘guaranteed’ and how  
often the amount should be given and  how. People try to drag in  
various ‘philosophic’ problems which are not serious and show