Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 24 May 2008, Ulrich Mueller wrote: # switch desk Key Left A CM PipeRead "echo GotoDesk $((-1+3*($[desk.n]%3==0))) 0 0 8' Key Right A CM PipeRead "echo GotoDesk $((1-3*($[desk.n]%3==2))) 0 0 8' Key Up A CM GotoDesk 3 0 0 8 Key Down A CM GotoDesk -3 0 0 8 quotes at the end of course, s

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Gautam Iyer wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:04:07PM -0700, Gautam Iyer wrote: (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, bu

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 22May2008 14:57, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or | several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for | choosing one or the other? | | I've never found any use for running a program with a window larger | than

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Chris G
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:23:50AM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > So, if you don't want to use the two level structure then perhaps your > question becomes ``what is the difference between multiple desktops each with > one page, and multiple pages in one desktop?'' And I guess the answer is > wheth

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:04:07PM -0700, Gautam Iyer wrote: >>> (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). >> >> I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage >> might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, >> but it really is an x,y operati

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:15:46PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > > From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > > > > > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > > > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:15:54PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: >> (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). > > I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage > might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, > but it really is an x,y operation.

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:10:09 -0700 Gautam Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Or at least I don't know how to > do this natively). I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, but it really is an x,y operat

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 08:36:58PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: >> The only thing I missed was the ability to have a 3x3 grid of pages and >> move between them with vi like keys (e.g. Win+h/j/k/l). A little >> scripting with FvwmPerl makes this easy... > > Why FvwmPerl? This why Goto{Page,Desk}

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris Giroir
> I quite agree about the organisation aspects but I fail to understand > what difference using Desktops, or Pages, or both, makes to the result. > > -- > Chris Green You can trim icons displayed in icon managers by page or desk as well, so it can be handy. I generally have icons shown for the cur

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:15:46PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > > > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page next to

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:54:17PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > * FvwmTaskBar can be set to show only windows on the current desktop, > (and iconised ones), which is less cluttered if you organise your > desktops into `task' activities. > I don't use a task bar so that's not relev

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Thomas Adam
On 22/05/2008, Gautam Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing I missed was the ability to have a 3x3 grid of pages and > move between them with vi like keys (e.g. Win+h/j/k/l). A little > scripting with FvwmPerl makes this easy... Why FvwmPerl? This why Goto{Page,Desk} exists. -- Tho

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:08:07PM -0400, Chris Giroir wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > > choosing one or the oth

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:00:06PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2008, Chris G wrote: > >> I rarely (but very occasionally) would like to drag a window from one >> place to another. > > Personally I like the little pager in the corner to swap pages/desktops, > and occasionally t

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 02:57:17PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? I used to use pages all the time, but that causes things to *really* mess u

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page next to the one I > am writing code in: I can just slide between the

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? > > I've never found any use for running a program with a window larger > than my screen size, I rarely (but very occasionally) would

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Elliot S
I have mine set up w/ 2 desks of 4 pages each. Only one desk is visible at a time. Middle clicking on a page switches me to that page on the other desk. I have numbered title bar buttons to move windows to numbered page, or can move it to same page on other desk.

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris Giroir
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? When I used a page system I was doing school work a lot. My typic

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Chris G wrote: I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for choosing one or the other? Mah, I originally developed my arrangement (when I moved into fvwm from a single desktop single p

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Dan Espen
Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? Pages seem more useful to me. If you ever want to see half a window you can. When my VPN discon

FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for choosing one or the other? I've never found any use for running a program with a window larger than my screen size, I rarely (but very occasionally) would like to dra