Re: FVWM: grid in root window
On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 09:19:26AM -0800, bruce m beach wrote: Hello Everybody I would like to put a configurable grid on the root window to help in the manual placement and sizing of windows. The simplest arrangement might be something like a horizontal line and a vertical line bisecting the screeen in each direction. fvwm-root would work, I think, but could involve drawing large pictures and in addition if the screen resolution changed then the various ratios would change. Do you have any suggestions? Stroke support in fvwm is as good as you'll get to doing this. -- Thomas Adam Thanks for the reply. I can see using stroke support to control the grid but how can I draw the vector orientated grid (as opposed to bit-mapped) on the root window in the first place? I suppose I'll have write something but then the question is Where do I put it?, What subsystem does it come under? I thought maybe the window manager would be a natural place, specifically in fvwm-root. Bruce
Re: locale error messages
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: What do these error messages try to tell me: -- [FvwmButtons][FlocaleSetlocaleForX]: ERROR -- Cannot set locale. Please check your $LC_CTYPE or $LANG. [FvwmPager][FlocaleSetlocaleForX]: ERROR -- Cannot set locale. Please check your $LC_CTYPE or $LANG. Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged [FvwmPager][FlocaleSetlocaleForX]: ERROR -- Cannot set locale. Please check your $LC_CTYPE or $LANG. [FvwmIconMan][FlocaleSetlocaleForX]: ERROR -- Cannot set locale. Please check your $LC_CTYPE or $LANG. Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged -- This is what I have set: $ locale LANG=C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... LC_*=C ... LC_ALL= Does [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually exist? For instance locate [EMAIL PROTECTED] should give you a whole bunch of stuff. If you build the libraries yourself then glibc doesn't install all the locales by default but you have to do a make localedata/install-locales after 'make install' The guys on the i18n@XFree86.Org mailing list will help if you email them. bruce PS its ironic that I have to use spammail (yahoo) because my paid for account is being rejected. Remote-MTA: DNS; util2.math.uh.edu Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550-rejected because 202.105.36.198 is in a block list at relays.osirusoft.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: Re: 2.5.x questions (Was: i can't run fvwm 2.4)
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 03 Sep 2002 12:02:41 +, Bruce M Beach wrote: 1) I am at this point using 2.5.2 more or less because I have to. I think your short description (in another thread) is not enough to understand the problem. Please add more details to that message. What is the mouse-menu problem and what to do exactly to reproduce it. It wasn't really a bug report. I was just commenting on the two development releases fvwm-2.5.2 and fvwm-2.5.3 since Dominik is rewriting this area it wouldn't make sense to submit a bug report at this time. 2) It looks like the following are not getting execute permission when installed. For instance: sh-2.05b# fvwm-bug sh: /usr/local/bin/fvwm-bug: Permission denied A chmod fixes it. fvwm-bug fvwm-menu-desktop ... Seems unlikely to me that they are installed without a+x. Please do the following: #cd fvwm_installation_dir cd bin/ make uninstall # as root ... I tried the above. Make install works fine but if you make -k install-strip then the problem occurs. This depends on how you start the fvwm executable. If you call it in ~/.xinitrc without redirection to a file, the output will be together with the X output, possibly on your virtual console. Thanks for the info. The above idea does what I want. i.e startx /var/log/win_system_log 21 gives me everything. What I had in mind was the thread on the bash syntax. If a log was running I would have immediately seen /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;' and now that I have have the log running I notice that I have a million errors in my fvwm2rc script. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: Ah. On the FVWM home page it says: Latest Alpha Release: 2.5.3 which I must admit has coloured my thinking a bit. Doh. When the web site is updated the next time it will read very unstable instead of alpha. 1) I am at this point using 2.5.2 more or less because I have to. I used a very early version of fvmw for years with no problems and then upgraded to xwindows 4.2 which caused significant problems with the mouse-menu interaction. An upgrade to fvwm-2.4.8 did not solve the problems whereas the alpha version fvwm-2.5.2 did. I've used fvwm-2.5.2 for a while now and for my use it works fine. With fvwm-2.5.3 the problems started again. 2) It looks like the following are not getting execute permission when installed. For instance: sh-2.05b# fvwm-bug sh: /usr/local/bin/fvwm-bug: Permission denied A chmod fixes it. fvwm-bug fvwm-config fvwm-convert-2.4 fvwm-convert-2.6 fvwm-menu-desktop fvwm-menu-directory fvwm-menu-headlines fvwm-menu-xlock fvwm-perllib 3) I built with the following configure options --enable-debug-msgs --enable-command-log and it builds fine but I don't understand where the messages get piped to. syslogd? an fvwm console? -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: Furthermore, *if* you stumble across a problem that is really bad, you may be forced to upgrade to a version that's very unstable. Right now I'm planning to rewrite major parts of the menu loop, the builtin command interface and the main event loop - three of fvwm's most central parts. Meanwhile, I have switched to using 2.5.3 personally -- I had been using 2.5.3 but had a lot of problems with the mouse and drop down menus and switched back to 2.5.2. Typically if I'm above an xterm (say) and move the mouse rapidly up and down a root drop down menu, eventually it looses the menu and highlights the xterm. I have a dual processor 2.1Ghz motherboard so I don't think its some kind of a speed issue, but I also have a tiny usb mouse, and it zips all over the screen. Bruce. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AutoRaise
1) I was looking at the Key function and trying to get a hot key from one window to another, or at least trying to modify the existing function which is perfect except one thing, it raises the window to the top. I use focus-follows mouse and tend to use bits and pieces of windows all tiled on top of each other and autoraise doesn't do any good, it just defeats the purpose of the hotkey since I have to use the mouse to put the windows back in place. In general I'd be very happy if I could turn all autoraise functions of. 2) Does anyone know how I can remap a key to another one? xmodmap will do the trick but the problem is that one of of the keys is an autorepeat kind (I wanted to say typomatic but couldn't figure out to spell it.) and the other is of the ctrl,alt shift class of keys. 3) Just for grins I ran a sed script on the man page replacing anything immediately after .BI with Function: which turned out to be really nice. For instance sometimes I play with the Mouse function. You can imagine how long it takes to find the Mouse function with a search of /mouse. Now I type Function: Mouse and immediately I get: Function: Mouse Button Context Modifiers Function Defines a mouse binding, or removes the binding if Function is '-'. Button is the mouse button num- ber ... Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: simple question: how execute xterm and then a script?
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 17 Aug 2002 19:13:24 +0200, Ulrich Fahrenberg wrote: On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Felix Kater wrote: I defined a Menu to start an xterm like this: AddToMenu MenuBackup + start backup Exec exec xterm Along these lines how would some one start multiple applications? Consider: AddToMenu Tails Tails Title + Messages exec xterm -fn 7x13bold -T \ messages -fg white -bg black -j -rw -aw +sf -sl 200 -sb -e \ tail -f /var/log/messages I have 5 or 6 tails that I bring up and sometimes I would like to bring up different groups of them. I tried + All Exec exec xterm -fn 7x13bold -T \ Messages -fg white -bg black -j -rw -aw +sf -sl 200 -sb -e \ tail -f /var/log/messages ; \ xterm -fn 7x13bold -T \ Syslog -fg white -bg black -j -rw -aw +sf -sl 200 -sb -e \ tail -f /var/log/syslog I thought the ';' would work. By the way I have a very unusual problem with fvwm-2.5.2. It just occurred while I was writing this email. And its this kind of problem. Intermittent, (i.e. occurs every couple of days.) It seem to occur under heavy load, and perhaps is connected with a large amount of output to an xterm. What happens is that the output to the xterm freezes, until I bring the mouse into the xterm (FocusFollowsMouse) then every everything is back to normal. This time was unusual because I happened to have 'top' running. The processors were about 75% usage (say), the output stopped in an xterm and the processors wentt o to 100.0% idle, (I was doing a series of builds) I typed this letter for a while and finally moved the mouse into the xterm. The builds started up again and the processors went back to 75% usage again. What I didn't do, I'm sorry to say was type 'ps x' to see what it said. I know that fvwm-2.5.2 is development, but I need to use it because it fixes some serious problems that occurred with an upgrade to xwindows 4.2 fvwm-2.5.2 seems to work fine anyway. I haven't been on the site for a while to see what the latest is. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: simple question: how execute xterm and then a script?
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: I thought the ';' would work. Here you should remove exec: Exec xterm ; xterm ; xterm The last is optional, but I would leave it for symmetry. + All Exec xterm ; xterm doesn't work. Nothing happens. If I remove the last xterm then an xterm pops up as expected, as in + All Exec xterm but if I add a semicolon + All Exec xterm ; then nothing happens By the way I have a very unusual problem with fvwm-2.5.2. It just occurred while I was writing this email. And its this kind of problem. Intermittent, .. Try to narrow the problem and make it reproducible, so that others can see this too. Tricky, only thing I can think of is 'ps x' to see if the process's are stopped. It seems that as long as I don't move into the mouse into the window it stay in that state. All other windows are functional. The question is what to examine. Suggestions are welcome. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: simple question: how execute xterm and then a script?
The real and simple truth is that the syntax of bash will just drive you crazy. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: simple question: how execute xterm and then a script?
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Funny, the following is incorrect in bash and ksh: % xterm ; xterm But this is correct in tcsh, zsh, ash and csh. If you put a command with in parentheses it should work in all shells: Exec (xterm ); (xterm ); (xterm ) Yeah. I've seen the above % xterm ; xterm fail a million times and never learn because it doesn't make any sense to me. I think its a bug. Heres a line from a script where I use the semi-colon which works just fine: cd /usr/src; rm -rf $GCC; tar -zxvf $GCC.tar.gz; I guess the confuses it. Somebody should send a report to bug-bash@gnu.org to get clarifition. ( not me. I already got a bug report pending) I quickly tried this set -o monitor # enable jobs set -b # enable immediate reporting of SIGCHLD xterm ; xterm to enable job control and it still doesn't like it. Anyway the second form Exec (xterm ); (xterm ); (xterm ) does the trick. Sometimes something is funny is happening on the net like somebody trying to use your machine as a relay when they have no business doing so and I want to fire up a whole bunch of tails on the logs really quick. Now I can do it. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm hangs
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:49:22PM +, Bruce M Beach wrote: Hello All If I execute a tcl script from the fvwm menu that has the the following line: Tkxset Exec exec /scripts/tkxset the xterms dont' change color as I move the mouse into them, .. Can you send me the whole tk script? Pressing ctrl-alt-escape may help to break the freeze. Thanks for the reply. I can send you the script but I'm not sure of the need. I was going to write to the tk/tcl people about the problem, but first I thought I would see if there were any new versions. There was so I upgraded from tcl8.4a3 to tcl8.4a4, likewise with tk and the problem went away. I rebuild the entire system from source every week and at one point tcl8.4a3 and fvwm were working fine. Then one week something (probably a new glib) broke tcl8.4a3. At first I thought it was fvwm-2.4.8, but I went back to an older version, tcl was still broken, so it wasn't fvwm. As I say tcl8.4a4 fixed the problem. As far as the script goes, all tcl/tk scripts were broken on that term signal. I imagine that the tcl/tk people know about the problem but it does seem strange that there is a lib/tcl/gcc/... combination where signals are not working properly. If you need to know more about this problem let me know and I can restore the old tcl again. Bruce -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: fvwm hangs
Hello All
If I execute a tcl script from the fvwm menu
that has the the following line:
Tkxset Exec exec /scripts/tkxset
It start up fine and works fine but when I push the quit
button which executes the following tcl procedure
#!/usr/local/bin/wish #- First line of script
..
..
proc quit {} {
destroy .
}
the button stays depressed and the whole root screen partially
freezes. Partially because the mouse is still working, but the
various applications do not respond. (i.e in focus-follows mouse
the xterms dont' change color as I move the mouse into them,
raising and lowering window or moving no longer works etc.)
Now if I'm clever I'll have two xterms
1) with the line: sh-2.05a# ps x
2) with the line: sh-2.05a# kill
I can add a carriage return to the ps x, get the process
number (cut and paste) and add it to the kill and kill the
tk application. It does not kill the application!, or restore
the window manager. Every thing remains non-functional but the
usual sequence cntrl-alt-backspace still works so I can kill
the xserver and start again.
I have the following
(These comments apply to all tk/tcl applications)
1) Start tkset(just a tk/tcl application) from an xterm.
Works fine and exits fine.
2) Start from the root menu and use the window dropdown
...
...
Delete
Close -- this partially hangs the window manager
Destroy -- closes the application
...
...
I'm using
fvwm-2.4.8
linux-2.4.18
xwindows 4.20
glibc-2.2.5
gcc-3.0.4
no gnome
I suspect that the problem is not fvwm but
one of the other major subsystems, but who ?
I've been using fvwm for 5 or 6 years and
this is something new.
Bruce
Ps I'm behind the great firewall of China and if
I subscribe to the list I tend to get weird things
happening like messages from the mailing list saying
that message are bounceing back with headers that say
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