On Mar 16, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret
operators,
with the goal of getting it into the official Perl documentation at some
point.
A few comments…
1. It would be nice to do a bit of documentation
I wonder if --$| and $|--, very popular in golf, and described
by japhy as the magical flip flop variable at:
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2002/01/msg1367.html
qualifies as a secret operator?
/-\
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:28:56PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
Le 16 mars 2012 12:44, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr a écrit :
So,
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret
operators,
with the goal of getting it into the official Perl
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 03:43:54AM -0700, Andrew Savige wrote:
I wonder if --$| and $|--, very popular in golf, and described
by japhy as the magical flip flop variable at:
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2002/01/msg1367.html
qualifies as a secret operator?
I have had
Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
Andrew Savige wrote:
I wonder if --$| and $|--, ... described
by japhy as the magical flip flop variable
qualifies as a secret operator?
My rule has been to keep
only the well-known operators, or the ones that had a
nickname
Le 16 mars 2012 12:44, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr a écrit :
So,
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret
operators,
with the goal of getting it into the official Perl documentation at some
point.
[...]
Patches welcome.
When it's stabilized
On Mon, April 2, 2012 4:28 pm, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
Le 16 mars 2012 12:44, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr a écrit :
So,
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret
operators,
[...]
I have a question though;
Did you change your mind about
So,
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret operators,
with the goal of getting it into the official Perl documentation at some point.
Somehow I got interested in that again, and started to really work on it.
The current work in progress is availabled at:
https
Also don't forget it is expandable, and as it is, still (erotic?) perl :-)
perl -e 'print ~~ = = ~~ = ~~+0'
On 16 March 2012 12:44, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.frwrote:
So,
A few years back, I started to write a manual page about Perl secret
operators
Good news everyone!
Excuse exclamation marks abound, but this message is all about a set of new
secret operators I thought of, all based on the exclamation sign. The boolean
negation is not really often used, but when is, the brevity of ! cannot be
overestimated.
Anyway, here's a set
Uri Guttman wrote:
you, sir, have altogether too much free time!! would you like to stop
wasting your life and help improve some cpan modules of mine? :)
Uri, what list do you think this is? The phrase wasting your life is
not allowed here, unless you can work it into a JAPH or something.
permission to pepper them with obfuscations and
DK secret operators to my heart's content? :)
this is code for cpan. your requests are requirements for top quality
cpan code!
To (mis)quote Fred Allen --
CPAN is a medium because anything well done is rare.
:-P
0--gg-
--
_($_= x(15).?\n.q
DK == Dmitry Karasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DK Hi Uri!
Uri you, sir, have altogether too much free time!! would you like to stop
Uri wasting your life and help improve some cpan modules of mine? :)
DK will I get permission to pepper them with obfuscations and
DK secret operators
Hi Uri!
Uri you, sir, have altogether too much free time!! would you like to stop
Uri wasting your life and help improve some cpan modules of mine? :)
will I get permission to pepper them with obfuscations and
secret operators to my heart's content? :)
--
Sincerely,
Dmitry
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 09:02:56PM -, McGlinchy, Alistair wrote:
Unfortunately -+- is bugged [*], but I'll leave these as
gotcha's for
your production code. :-)
[*] You might want to consider: print-+- '-2B' x 5;
José Castro wrote in perl.fwp :
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator, can
anyone tell me about other secret operators?
I think nobody mentioned the toothpick operator yet.
/\/\//
Exists also in extra-large version.
--
Tsk tsk, that's not an O'Reilly title. You
Andrew Savige wrote:
@{[]} join $, ...
My better half proposes to call this one the papoose operator.
Joy,
`/anick
Le vendredi 04 février 2005 à 09:42, Yanick Champoux écrivait:
Andrew Savige wrote:
@{[]} join $, ...
My better half proposes to call this one the papoose operator.
Or the trolley operator (as in supermarkets), where you stuff everything
you want to
Le mercredi 02 février 2005 à 21:36, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni écrivait:
Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat wrote:
So we have :
symbolnicknameRole
--
= spaceship documented operator
0+venus
Eugene == Eugene van der Pijll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
@{[]} aka ???The Schwartz early 1990s
Eugene The Larry, May 1 1994
Eugene http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl/msg/1d82c7c3f3e94266
The array version was actually discussed in private email
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 04:20:05PM +0200, Vladi Belperchinov-Shabanski wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:33:35 +1100 (EST)
Andrew Savige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jos_ Castro wrote:
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator,
can anyone tell me about other secret operators
Andrew Savige wrote:
twos complement machine -- and I'm not aware of any perl running
on any non twos complement machine.
I ported Perl 1.0 (and probably 2.0) to UNIX 1100 (UNIX as guest OS on
Univac 1100). The machine was 36-bit, ones complement, word addressable.
Porting software to this
* McGlinchy, Alistair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi All,
High in fun, but low in usefulness is -+- , a high precedence string
numerifier. It sort of looks like an A C Clarke style spacestation so
that's what I've been calling it. Although I'm not too sure that Larry's
spaceship =3D would be
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:33:35 +1100 (EST)
Andrew Savige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jos_ Castro wrote:
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator,
can anyone tell me about other secret operators?
Let's not forget the Ton Hospel high-precedence decrement
operator ~- invented
Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat wrote:
So we have :
symbolnicknameRole
--
= spaceship documented operator
0+venus numification
}{eskimo greeting END{} in one-liners
--- Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
symbolnicknameRole
--
= spaceship documented
operator
0+venus numification
}{eskimo greeting
Andrew Savige schreef:
The table below is based on wild guesswork. If there are any oldbies
listening, please chime in with corrections.
Not an oldbie, but...
@{[]} aka ???The Schwartz early 1990s
The Larry, May 1 1994
On Feb 2, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote:
Hey Philippe, why don't you give the name we found for @{[]} ?
It looks like a guy lying on his side in a straightjacket to me.
Chris
--
Chris Dolan, Software Developer, www.chrisdolan.net
Public key:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:49:57 +, José Castro wrote:can
anyone tell me about other secret operators?
I just produced this in my own code, I think it would qualify. Take this
expression in list context:
cond ? foo : ()
I'm talking about the 3 characters at the end: : (). I'd call
Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 11:49, José Castro écrivait:
Hi, guys.
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator, can
anyone tell me about other secret operators?
Examples:
eskimo: }{
goatse: =()=
eskimo usage: perl -ne '}{print $.'
goatse usage: perl -e
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:49:57 +
Jos_ Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, guys.
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator, can
anyone tell me about other secret operators?
Examples:
eskimo: }{
goatse: =()=
eskimo usage: perl -ne '}{print $.'
perl -MO
Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 18:57, Vladi Belperchinov-Shabanski écrivait:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:57:33 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat) wrote:
There's also @{[]} but I don't know f it has a name.
Usage: print splatt @{[ ... ]} pow
where ... is any valid expression,
Can I get that just a little slower?
$b = () = /u/g;
is the same as:
@a = /u/g;
$b = @a;
I understand what happens, but it appears to be assigning to an empty list
- is that filling up the list, so to speak? Or is it just that it makes
the 'result' of /u/g assign in array/list
From the keyboard of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01.02.05,11:15]:
Can I get that just a little slower?
$b = () = /u/g;
is the same as:
@a = /u/g;
$b = @a;
it's not the same.
perl -le '$_=foo; print $b =()= /o/g'
2
perl -le '$_=foo; print @b =()= /o/g'
perl -le '$_=foo; print /o/g'
oo
* Ronald J Kimball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You can assign two elements to a one-element list:
($foo) = (1, 2);
You can even assign two elements to an empty list:
() = (1, 2);
In each case, any extra elements are simply discarded, but the result of
the assignment in scalar
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 03:49, Jos Castro wrote:
Hi, guys.
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator, can
anyone tell me about other secret operators?
Examples:
eskimo: }{
goatse: =()=
eskimo usage: perl -ne '}{print $.'
This is wonderfully deranged. I
* Jeff Yoak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
eskimo usage: perl -ne '}{print $.'
This is wonderfully deranged. I haven't seen it before, but it was
immediately clear what it does.
goatse usage: perl -e '$_=zbrughau;$b=()=/u/g;print $b'
This is probably even more wonderfully deranged as
--- José Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Quantum Mechanic ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
$foo = ($bar) = (9,8,7);
RHS list
($bar) array
$bar - 7 (rest discarded)
No, no, no.
$bar - 9
Yes, that was a typo -- thanks.
It's the same as
$foo = ($bar,
José Castro wrote:
Apart from the secret eskimo greeting and the goatse operator,
can anyone tell me about other secret operators?
Let's not forget the Ton Hospel high-precedence decrement
operator ~- invented during a golf tournament (anyone remember
which one?).
IIRC, Ton's ~- invention
The Thelen 2002
-i and $^I for data value The Sperling 2002
Notice that some of the secret operators above also double as
golfing techniques. I'm sure there are plenty of other golfing
techniques I've forgotten because I am so rusty.
/-\
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