Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread joe
On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Mac G4 wrote: Secondly I asked Mac of All Trades and PowerMax how they are allowed to sell used machines with no discs. According to them as a Apple Authorized Reseller they are able to do this within certain rights. Of course they didn't tell me all the

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread joe
On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Joe... infact you are right in point of view... but rapidshare and magaupload like sites use that... It is like that you may copy your version on a backup and put somewhere for backup purposes. As long as you do not use illegal way, it is legal.

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
As long as you have the machine (For Apple or any OEM Licensed Computer) you may download and install... You do not commiting crime... Upload may... :) 2009/5/12 joe j...@joethejuggler.com: On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Joe... infact you are right in point of view... but

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
opposite... you must prove their guilt... belive me if you can prove it... you can close them down, but in reality only users commited crime... it is like being gun manufacturing or weapon wholeselling... i admit that i am with you in thinking of weapon wholeselling but... laws. 2009/5/12 joe

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Dan
Title: Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4 At 6:38 PM -0500 5/11/09, joe wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Uploader putting his disc on backup purposes for futere downloading his backup copy. Do you catch the idea? No. Uploading and storing a copy of software that you

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Dan
At 11:46 PM +0300 5/11/09, Baha Ata wrote: Uploader putting his disc on backup purposes for futere downloading his backup copy. Do you catch the idea? Thats the logic. They legitimize. For example you bought a Lord of the Rings DVD box set for $40. You have to right to have a CD copy or DVD for

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
please do not add what i have never said... as i mentioned... share? what u share? share legal backuop :) if any file you find there illegal, you warn them they erase... :) 2009/5/12 Dan dantear...@gmail.com: At 11:46 PM +0300 5/11/09, Baha Ata wrote: Uploader putting his disc on backup

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
You can whatever copy you may use for copy it... Whatever... It is supreme or whatever court you have there... given that decision. You may copy for your belongings... whatever they protected them you may decode it and copy it. As long as it is personal use there no illegality. Read your laws

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread joe
On May 12, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Baha Ata wrote: please do not add what i have never said... Please review the thread. Someone who bought a second hand G4 that had Mac OS X installed on it but no disks was looking for a place to purchase the disks. You advised him to download it from

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread joe
On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Yes above one of my post i state that they may use OEM license... for one install.. And it's already been pointed out to you that the license for the Mac OS that comes installed on a new Mac only goes to the original purchaser and is not

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
Thanks anway. I am sorry that i misguide the topic another point. Thanks everyone. 2009/5/12 joe j...@joethejuggler.com: On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Yes above one of my post i state that they may use OEM license... for one install.. And it's already been pointed out to

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Dan
At 5:50 PM +0300 5/12/09, Baha Ata wrote: You have the right to have the orginal manufactured disc of that computer. Correct. An *original physical disc*. Not a copy. Not something you download from an illegal source. You may barrow or you may ask to your friend put a ftp server just for

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
please look meanings of LEND or redistribute. It is not same meaning giving the install cd to someone that has the right using that cd... It is not meaning giving that cd to someone that has no right using... Do u remember that how many copy you may make from orginal DVD when first DVD released

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Dennis Myhand
DEAR GOD SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD! THIS DEAD HORSE HAS BEEN FLOGGED ENOUGH! Baha Ata wrote: distribute: to promote, sell, and ship or deliver (an item or line of merchandise) to individual customers, esp. in a specified region or area. lend: to give (money) on condition that

CLOSING THREAD [Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4]

2009-05-12 Thread Fabian Fang
On May 12, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote: DEAR GOD SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD! THIS DEAD HORSE HAS BEEN FLOGGED ENOUGH! Baha Ata wrote and wrote and wrote: This thread has run with over 70 messages, with one person accounting for almost one-third of the messages,

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Robert MacLeay
Regarding the iBook: A Mac running OS X with only 256 MB of RAM is essentially nonfunctional; You MUST max out the RAM. As for the iBook's battery, is someone forcing you to use this as a portable? It will run just fine with its current battery, if you leave it plugged in all the time. Children

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Paul
Another possibility, if he wants to try out Macs, is to sell those machines and buy a decent G4 tower for less than $100. That way, if he likes Macs, he can take the profit and buy an Intel Mac or G5 tower in the future. That is, unless situational etiquette would prevent selling something

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread joe
On May 12, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Baha Ata wrote: So... Do u really catch the point? Look, Baha, don't be snarky. I understand what you're saying. The thing is, what you're saying is wrong. OEM licenses belong the machines not people Software licenses do not belong to machines. All

Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.

2009-05-12 Thread photoartcom
Dan, Peace And Health. I never resolved the problem below. I followed your advise with no luck. I picked up another G4 from eBay, a MDD G4 Duel. Question; can I take my 120gb harddrive from the GigG4 and put it into the MDDG4, or can I add my old HD. to the new machine and use both of

Bigger Internal HDs Bigger External Firewire/USB HD

2009-05-12 Thread yersinia
Hiya Listers, I'm actually upgrading again soon. Just ordered 2 x 250 GB internal ATA HDs from the Swap List. Also, since the FW died on my external HD (which could stand to hold a much bigger HD than it does anyway) a few months ago I'm finally going to move on rectifying THAT problem, too

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
For G5 10.5, For ibook definetely 10.4... Even one of my powerbook with 1.33 Mhz and 1.25 GB Ram with 167 Mhz data path with 10.5 become slugy... Be aware those ibook's and powerbook's (12inches) uses 4200 rmp drives. 10.4 is good for them. Smaller ram foot print...and lower graphic and data

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
it is ended. but... i cannot belive myself that i cannot explain what i am in... i must live in there i guess to understand or describe myself... Iam glad to have this conversasition, and taking pleasure. I am mean on it. Thanks. As moderator said topic closed. We will continue if you like with

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Marty Levine
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: For G5 10.5, For ibook definetely 10.4... Even one of my powerbook with 1.33 Mhz and 1.25 GB Ram with 167 Mhz data path with 10.5 become slugy... Be aware those ibook's and powerbook's (12inches) uses 4200 rmp drives. 10.4 is

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread James E. Therrault
I believe that you are correct. Additionally, the OEM license alows free upgrades for that major version and that is why when a machine is sold, it should include the original disks. JT Baha Ata wrote: Totally misleading factor. OEM licenses belong the machines not people :) So if you got

Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Doug Burton
Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Alexander MacLeod
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Doug Burton slu...@embarqmail.com wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I just downloaded and installed the update on my Nehalem Mac Pro 8-core, and the 449mb download and install went smoothly. I was really looking forward to this update because a

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I think Apple's servers are getting hammered. It just failed downloading twice for me, which is a first. Oddly mine (for an Intel iMac 1st gen) was 449 MB, not 256 MB. -- Bruce Johnson University

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 12, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I think Apple's servers are getting hammered. It just failed downloading twice for me, which is a first. Oddly mine (for an Intel iMac 1st

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Ted Treen
Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I think Apple's servers are getting hammered. It just failed downloading twice for me, which is a first. Oddly mine (for an Intel iMac 1st gen) was 449 MB, not 256

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Doug Burton
On May 12, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I think Apple's servers are getting hammered. It just failed downloading twice for me, which is a first. Oddly mine (for an Intel iMac 1st gen)

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread PeterH
On May 12, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Yep, mine aborted also so I'm doing the 729 Mb combo update. Going pretty quick. Mine aborted, too, so I am now downloading the Combo Update, and I will write that to a USB 2.0 stick for later application to my sole remaining G4 Mack,

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-12 Thread Len Gerstel
On May 12, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. Used regular software update and I am pretty sure it said 268MB (might have been 468, But I am pretty sure on the 268) on my G4 (dual 1.2GHz). Started the download before dinner, was done when I

Re: CLOSING THREAD [Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4]

2009-05-12 Thread David Stoltz
THANK YOU! On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote: DEAR GOD SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD! THIS DEAD HORSE HAS BEEN FLOGGED ENOUGH! Baha Ata wrote and wrote and wrote: This thread has run with

Second drive problems?

2009-05-12 Thread PAR
I have a gigabit 450 dual, I installed a second hard drive on. The original drive, a 20 gig, has OSX 10.4 installed, while the second drive, a 60 gig, has OSX10.2, OS10.3, and OS9.2 installed on three partitions. The OSes were installed while the drive was in a B W. I can boot into the 10.2 and

Re: Best Game site, for iMac G3 400, running OSX?

2009-05-12 Thread Paul
I don't know the answer, but someone will soon kick you for posting here instead of the iMac/eMac list. The iMac G3 400 should be similar in power to the turquiose G3 tower, so you could ask it that way here. I think there are more people posting here than on the iMac list, so you may get more

Re: Best Game site, for iMac G3 400, running OSX?

2009-05-12 Thread Len Gerstel
On May 12, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Paul wrote: I don't know the answer, but someone will soon kick you for posting here instead of the iMac/eMac list. It is still a G Mac and postings are welcome on this list (that is the List Nanny talking). The iMac G3 400 should be similar in power to

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
For my point of view, iMac version as you mentioned will be determined. If i am in same shoes with him, i get rid off the ibook, if it is higher iMac G5 focus on it. Buy more ram on it. Get 10.5 system and walk through with no hassle and probably no spending. Rams will be cheaper than ibook sale

Re: Best Game site, for iMac G3 400, running OSX?

2009-05-12 Thread tortoise
Mullin9 wrote: What is the Best Game site, for iMac G3 400, running OSX? the ones made around 2000, 2002. ? Thank you You are looking for games made when, on version of osX made when ? I have play a few games from ~ 2000 - 2002 that were made for os9 through 10.1 Sometimes the OS is very