At 07:08 -0700 10/26/10, Gary D. wrote:
The big cats are pretty much played out. How about something more
agressive: Alligator or Crocodile. And then on to the dinosaurs - lots
to choose from.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Lists can be fun.
With the Lion King one thinks of Disney - o wait,
At 8:22 PM + 10/25/10, Charles Davis wrote:
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Amanda Ward wrote:
We have lots of cats left on the list:
Asian Golden Cat
Fishing Cat
Wildcat (many varieties)
...
Lion (used)
Tiger (used)
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.comwrote:
At 07:08 -0700 10/26/10, Gary D. wrote:
The big cats are pretty much played out. How about something more
agressive: Alligator or Crocodile. And then on to the dinosaurs - lots
to choose from.
Sorry, couldn't
On 2010/10/26 10:19, Bill Christensen so eloquently wrote:
Just as long as we don't have to deal with Schroedinger's Cat... Every
time you try to use it, it's either dead or not dead.
Wouldn't it be simultaneously dead and alive? And if so, what would you
feed it???
Tina
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Tina K. wrote:
On 2010/10/26 10:19, Bill Christensen so eloquently wrote:
Just as long as we don't have to deal with Schroedinger's Cat... Every
time you try to use it, it's either dead or not dead.
Wouldn't it be simultaneously dead and alive? And if so, what
MAINE COON!
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Joshua Juran wrote:
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
We have lots of cats left on the list:
[snip]
Cheetah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.0
Josh
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On 2010/10/26 12:07, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Tina K. wrote:
On 2010/10/26 10:19, Bill Christensen so eloquently wrote:
Just as long as we don't have to deal with Schroedinger's
Cat... Every time you try to use it, it's either dead or not
dead.
At 8:50 PM -0700 10/24/2010, Joshua Juran wrote:
The Core 2 Duo was a real performance boost comparted to the PowerPC G4 which
was stuck at 1.5 GHz. I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz
is possible
without overclocking - altough I'm not sure if they aren't overclocked by
default?
My
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote:
AIX was in use on Macs way before the PPC days. I remember a
developer using it in 1990...
AIX is IBM's proprietary frankenunix, you're thinking of A/UX,
which was Apple's port of
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:02:07
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:07 PM, daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales
which was their second best seller
As an interesting aside I there was also a PPC native version of
Windows NT 4.0 I guess MS was not content to just subject PC users
to NT.
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote:
AIX was in use
Tina K. wrote:
On 2010/10/24 00:35, Brian Christmas so eloquently wrote:
The end of this race is a long way away yet.
The finish line is constantly being moved, there is no end.
Tina
Actually, it's more like the carrot in front of the horse's nose. As
long as the horse is willing to
Joshua Juran wrote:
. multiple cores have gone mainstream as an alternative to
increasing clock speed. Whereas a small increase in performance
costs you a large increase in power consumption and heat generation,
a reduction in performance (maybe 10 or 20%) cuts the heat and power
in
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote:
Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time
that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn,
back-up re-evaluate our values.
Not at all. I'm very happy with my PPC Macs (except for
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote:
Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time
that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn,
back-up re-evaluate
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote:
Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just
time
that our world, Apple fans included,
At 14:19 -0700 10/25/10, Andrew Liu Anderson wrote:
Also, at 3GHz, you cross-over into the SHF range of micro-wave on radio
spectrum. As frequency increases, Skin Effect of AC current becomes more
dramatic, to where it becomes impossible to use ordinary conductors to carry
your clock
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
10.9… iCougar?
We have lots of cats left on the list:
Asian Golden Cat
Fishing Cat
Wildcat (many varieties)
Sand Cat
Geoffroy's Cat
Serval
Caracal
Cheetah
Margay
Iriomote Cat
Jaguar Leopard (used)
Black Panther (Panther has been used)
Puma
Well cats names are a proper considering the imperiousness Of apple
philosophy.
How about Simon's Cat
Check out kitty behavior on youtube.
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote:
As an interesting aside I there was also a PPC native version of
Windows NT 4.0 I guess MS was not content to just subject PC users
to NT.
That one was designed to run on CHRP (?) hardware, not Mac hardware;
they never advanced much
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote:
Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks.
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:
It's the last question that makes me do this. I had an IBM 024 punch in my
office that nobody else wanted because it didn't print the letters on the top
edge. The 026's did. It's really fun to check a FORTRAN deck for typos when
all you
Previously, at 8:22 pm + 10/25/10, Charles Davis wrote:
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Amanda Ward wrote:
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K.
mailto:penguir...@gmail.compenguir...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu
With Lion king of the jungle, maybe, it's on to OS XI and another
animal after this! OS X has steadily matured but I sure don't consider
that 7 or 8 systems have been presented. Tiger seems to be the
maturing high point of a steady series of incremental improvements and
tinkering.
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On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
We have lots of cats left on the list:
[snip]
Cheetah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.0
Josh
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Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for
mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad. Now I am wondering
if I am the only one who is wondering if Apple has any intention of
eventually manufacturing their own CPUs for their computers instead of
looking to Intel or IBM
On 24/10/2010, at 5:19 PM, Scotty wrote:
Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for
mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad. Now I am wondering
if I am the only one who is wondering if Apple has any intention of
eventually manufacturing their own CPUs for
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Scotty daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for
mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad. Now I am wondering
if I am the only one who is wondering if Apple has any intention of
eventually
Everything that has occurred in Silicon Valley in the last couple of
decades also occurred in the 1850s. Anyone who thinks that wild-ass high
tech venture capitalism is a late-20th-century California phenomenon needs
to read about the maniacs who built the first transatlantic cable projects.
The
At 11:19 PM -0700 10/23/2010, Scotty wrote:
Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for
mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad.
In ?2008?, Apple bought PA Semi, a company that *designs* chips.
Like Apple, they don't fabricate (make) anything - that work is all
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote:
At 11:19 PM -0700 10/23/2010, Scotty wrote:
Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for
mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad.
In ?2008?, Apple bought PA Semi, a company that *designs* chips.
Like Apple, they don't
At 5:07 AM -0600 10/24/2010, James Therrault wrote:
When the PowerPC alliance dropped the ball (inability to produce
faster PowerPC G4 processors for laptops), Apple jumped ship by
switching to Intel's new Core architecture.
Don'tcha mean G5?
The roadmap called for both the G4 and G5 to
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Dan wrote:
At 5:07 AM -0600 10/24/2010, James Therrault wrote:
When the PowerPC alliance dropped the ball (inability to produce
faster PowerPC G4 processors for laptops), Apple jumped ship by
switching to Intel's new Core architecture.
Don'tcha mean G5?
The
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote:
I'm thinking by next summer/fall, Apple will be offering A4
portables
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote:
I'm thinking by next summer/fall, Apple will be offering A4
portables and Core i7 and i9 desktops. OS X and iOS merged
(Lion being the first step), and able to run on either
I've been in the industry for 26+ years.
It's rare to see a leap that's outside the bounds of Moore's law.
The geometry of semiconductors moves in small increments, 1/4 micron,
200nm, 180nm, 120nm, 90nm, 65nm, 45nm, 32nm you get the idea.
Most vendors have hit a bit of a wall in terms of
not push back a release date on new laptops.
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote:
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:
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To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote:
I'm thinking by next summer/fall, Apple will be offering A4
portables and Core i7 and i9
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Everything that has occurred in Silicon Valley in the last couple of
decades also occurred in the 1850s. Anyone who thinks that wild-ass
high
tech venture capitalism is a late-20th-century California phenomenon
needs
to read
On Oct 23, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
CPU magazine claims that next year a technology and logic
combination will
be released that will be 1000 times as fast and blow everything out
of the
water.
CPU has never let me down on a prediction despite the constant
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Alex Barnes wrote:
The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC
solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower then
anything Intel had and that Blew even the top G5s out of the water
but
it came a few months too late because Apple in their
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote:
Ultimately Apple ended
up looking like impatient dummies and paid the price.
yeah, record-breaking profits, stock at stratospheric highs, a
complete rejuvenation of the platform and more Macs sold than ever in
their history.
Dell
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N
From:James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Dan wrote:
Eventurally and partly due to the ALTIVEC squabble, IBM took over
most
: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:41:22
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Alex Barnes wrote:
The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC
solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower
Bruce I was talking about how things were perceived when it was
revealed that they would have had a far better product if they had
waited and your comments are misleading since the vast majority of
Apple's record sales and stock increases over the last several years
have been generated almost
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Subject: Re: Apple inside?
Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N
From:Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2
duo look like a Celeron in terms
On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote:
IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips
There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC.
Usually sold as part of IBM's AIX products.
Much as Apple's Network Server products supported AIX.
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz is possible
without overclocking – altough I'm not sure if they aren't
overclocked by
default?
1.42 was the fastest chip which Freescale (successor to Motorola) was
making in the end.
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:07 PM, daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales
which was their second best seller after ipods. The Cell procssor
would have been perfct for laptops which why the made one
specifically for that purpose.
On 2010/10/24 00:35, Brian Christmas so eloquently wrote:
The end of this race is a long way away yet.
The finish line is constantly being moved, there is no end.
Tina
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:47 AM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote:
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but I still think that Apple dropped the ball with
regard to option to power sucking G5 chips for laptops. Neither IBM
or Motorola could do it but maybe a
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Peter Haas wrote:
On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote:
IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips
There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC.
I think he meant OS/2.
Josh
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Peter Haas wrote:
On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote:
IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips
There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC.
I think he
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote:
AIX was in use on Macs way before the PPC days. I remember a developer using
it in 1990...
AIX is IBM's proprietary frankenunix, you're thinking of A/UX, which was
Apple's port of System V:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX
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On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
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Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N
From:Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
The thing was though the new PPC processor
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com
wrote:
The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2
duo look like a Celeron in terms of performance and I don't know many
Apple users who want to Use Windoze unless they absolutely have to and
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