Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-12-01 Thread Gottick International
he larger one is the power cable however it's just as easy to misconnect both. Look real close also I've damaged the cables by pulling them the wrong way. Can one start a G5 open just to hear if the drive starts at all? A -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-12-01 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Gottick International wrote: Can one start a G5 open just to hear if the drive starts at all? If you can find the lid switch and trick it to think the lid is on, then perhaps, but the G5 fans are pretty noisy and most modern HDs are pretty quiet, so you might

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-30 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Gottick International wrote: Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The cables look ok. What can I do now to locate the problem? Anders Are you sure the power cable is connected correctly. It's easy to

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-29 Thread Gottick International
Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. The drive has been tested on another Mac and had been formated ok. The cables look ok.

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 29, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Gottick International wrote: Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. The drive has been tested on

Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-28 Thread AndersFager
Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. The drive has been tested on another Mac and had been formated ok. The cables look ok. What

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-28 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 28, 2010, at 12:40 PM, AndersFager wrote: Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. The drive has been tested on another Mac

Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-28 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:40 AM, AndersFager wrote: Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. The drive has been tested on another

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-21 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Gottick International i...@gottick.com wrote: The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Not sure if there ever was a resolution to this or not and I'm curious. As was previously pointed out, just copying the jumper settings

Re: Dead Drive? - John

2010-11-21 Thread Gottick International
The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Not sure if there ever was a resolution to this or not and I'm curious. As was previously pointed out, just copying the jumper settings from an old drive to a new one is not a good way to go. Did you try

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-11-21 Thread iJohn
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Gottick International i...@gottick.com wrote: By all the experts here putting jumpers on this drive is not the way to go. At least I was told so. I would agree with that. As was also previously mentioned, the main reason for the jumper was because during the

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-03 Thread t...@io.com
On Nov 2, 2:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: I've never liked Western Digital's stuff, I had a round of lemons from them back in the 90s. Every drive manufacturer sells a round of lemons at some point. Maxtor made some 120 MB (that's MB, not GB) drives that failed

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-03 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/11/03 09:17, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: I tend to stick with Seagate these days. Their five year warranty won't save my data, but it means they have more motivation to put effort into quality control than a company offering a three year warranty. The last time I looked,

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-03 Thread Mel
What ill save data is backing data on an external (or internal second HD) at least once a month.  Using CCC is a cinch to do that and usual takes a very short time. Mel --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Dead Drive? - Group

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Gottick International
OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What about jumper settings? On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used. The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Can anyone give me a definitive on this? Does using a jumper in the

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Perhaps you can give us the make and model number of the drive in question, we can pull the specifications. :) -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Gottick International wrote: On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used. The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Can anyone give me a definitive on this? Does using a jumper in the wrong slot shut down the whole

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Ted Treen
Gottick International wrote: OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What about jumper settings? On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used. The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Can anyone give me a definitive on this?

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Gottick International
Perhaps you can give us the make and model number of the drive in question, we can pull the specifications. :) Sorry. WD Caviar WD5000AADS - 500GB -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Looks like there shouldn't be any jumpers on it, the jumpers force a lower transfer speed. http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1679p_created=p_pv=2.294p_prods=227%2C294 I've never liked Western Digital's stuff, I had a round of lemons from them back in the

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/11/02 11:55, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: The jumper on a SATA drive restricts it to 1.5Gbs (SATA 1) speed. It won't have any other effect. What would be the purpose of even doing this? I have 3GBs drives in my P M and it only supports 1.5GBs, so the end result is they do not exceed

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-02 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Older controller chipsets had problems when it initially moved to SATA gen II, so some drives had the ability to force negotiation at 1.5Gbps. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 15:46, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/11/02 11:55, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: The jumper on a SATA drive

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-01 Thread Gottick International
OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What about jumper settings? OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? Probably not. How about the cable ... is that new? a good one? Connected well at both ends ...

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-01 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Gottick International wrote: OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What about jumper settings? On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used. Cable looks fine. Conects well. Can one test it in one way or another? I've wondered about

Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

2010-11-01 Thread Bill Connelly
On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Gottick International wrote: I have an old, unbreakable, Quicksilver nearby. Can I try out a 500 gig serial ATA disc on that old warhorse? T Not unless you have a PATA to SATA adapter or a SATA PCI card installed. I have a SeriTek/1S2 PCI card in my QS 2002

Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread AndersFager
Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new battery and from what I

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Alex Barnes
Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle
The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac.

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: The iMac G5's are sATA so the jumpers are not an issue here. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP --

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle
nope I have a 500gb in mine. with no problems:-) Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Gottick International wrote: OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010,

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Bill Connelly
On Oct 31, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Gottick International wrote: OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? Probably not. How about the cable ... is that new? a good one? Connected well at both ends ... didn't come loose when the machine

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Martz
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, AndersFager i...@gottick.com wrote: Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. Without having any idea whether or not any of them might apply here are some things that come to mind: 1) The old drive didn't really have issues. Rather

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread william Bowles
Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new battery and

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Richard Gerome
I would double check that you are formatting it right??? This happened to me once but it was with a PATA drive... -Original Message- From: AndersFager i...@gottick.com Sent: Oct 31, 2010 8:04 AM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Dead Drive? Folks, Installed a brand

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Dead Drive? Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be wrong

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Yersinia
On 10/31/10 8:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be wrong? The

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread gifutiger
Greetings, If your Disk Utilities can see the new disk, select the disk and click on info and tell us what it says! If you are able to see and select the drive then use erase before trying to partition the disk! If that doesn't work then tell us the exact system response, Cheers Harry San Jose,

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Try hooking it up to another computer or hook it up through an external case. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at