Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

X On Dec 12, 2012, at 5:48 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card [5 Updates] MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card faithie999 Dec 11 03:55AM -0

MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

Greetings, If you need drivers you should be able to get them on ATI web page. When I was using my G4 AGP Graphic 400 I need to install the drivers (I think there was2) before everything worked Okay. Well my problem was, if the system went to sleep upon wake up the screen was scrambled, and the

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

Jeff: >From photos of several of these PSUs (both 360 and 400 watt versions) for sale on eBay, it seems pretty clear to me that these figures are output wattage. From my rough calculations based on input figures on the same PSUs, it would seem that the input wattage is between 700-800 watts.

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On Monday, December 10, 2012 10:14:08 PM UTC-6, Valter Viglietti wrote: > > > > Speaking of which, my MDD has the 360 watt PS. I have seen that there > are > > 400 watt units also for the MDD. Any idea why the different versions? Is > > the 400 watt unit just a later version, or what? > AFAIK

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

i was going to suggest the same thing, if only for a last troubleshooting step. if you have either a spare PC power supply, or a PC that you can "borrow" the power supply from temporarily, you could try powering the video card from the separate power supply. assuming the borrowed PS doesn't ha

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Hello Rob: I forgot to mention, the tightening sequence is important also: Right front, Left rear, Left front, Right rear. The right rear is a sheet metal mount from the case and can have a lot of variance in height. Bob On Dec 10, 2012, at 8:32 PM, frrob wrote: Bob: I'll check tha

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On 12/10/12 22:14 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 11/12/12 03:41, frrob ha scritto: Valter: I would call an AGP card that draws 75 watts a "power hog" all right. It was the most powerful card of its times... power always has a price. ;-) If you can find an old AT power supply, they hav

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Il giorno 11/12/12 03:41, frrob ha scritto: > Valter: > > I would call an AGP card that draws 75 watts a "power hog" all right. It was the most powerful card of its times... power always has a price. ;-) > Speaking of which, my MDD has the 360 watt PS. I have seen that there are > 400 watt units

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On 10/12/2012 02:41, "frrob" wrote: > Hello again everyone! > > Again, thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. > > Sooner or later, when you keep banging your head against a wall, you reach a > point of saying "f*%k it. It's not worth the trouble." I am about at that > point. I have spent

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

Valter: I would call an AGP card that draws 75 watts a "power hog" all right. I had, by my own rough calculation, thought that the card might draw 45-50 watts. But I could see that 75 might well overtax the power supply. Speaking of which, my MDD has the 360 watt PS. I have seen that there are

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Bob: I'll check that heat sink and screws when I get back. Thanks, Rob J. On Monday, December 10, 2012 1:58:59 AM UTC-5, grizzledgiant wrote: > > Sorry, Rob, I didn't read down all the way before replying. > About the full fan speed. Mine did that when I first got it (used). > The heat

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Flags: I'll check the swap list for that driver. However, according to the ATI website, Leopard has the most up-to-date driver for the 9800 in it already. Thanks, Rob J. On Monday, December 10, 2012 7:35:30 AM UTC-5, flags wrote: > > On 12/7/12 15:34 PM, frrob wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

On 12/7/12 15:34 PM, frrob wrote: Hello! I have a MDD G4, 1.25 GHz DP, 10.5.8. Last night I installed a Radeon 9800 Pro 128M AGP (DVI) card, replacing the stock Radeon 9000 68M (ADC). My main motivation for doing this was to have a 128M card, so as to run snip=== Did you get a driver disk

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Sorry, Rob, I didn't read down all the way before replying. About the full fan speed. Mine did that when I first got it (used). The heat sink screws were loose when I removed it. I put new Arctic Silver 5 paste on it and made sure the screws were tight. It quieted down. Bob -- You rec

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Hello Rob: With no disrespect to anyone else's attempts to help, I have had exactly the same problem on my MDD. It occurred after the same basic scenario, adding a 9800 Pro (PC flashed with pins 3 and 11 taped up). After 2 weeks it wouldn't start up or even give me the white LED light w

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Il giorno 10/12/12 03:41, frrob ha scritto: > The only thing to try, as Valter, Mac User #330250, and Wayne have > suggested, is to remove the last things - the SCSI RAID, the UL3D, and the > USB 2.0 card, and see what happens. The thing is, even if that worked, I > don't *want* to run the machine

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Tom: Thanks for the reply. I recall that on some machines, a bad or marginal PRAM battery can cause all kinds of goofiness. But, I am not losing dates/times, etc., which is the classic symptom of a bad battery. However, I will try the new PRAM battery next. Thanks, Rob J. On Dec 8,

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

Hello again everyone! Again, thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Sooner or later, when you keep banging your head against a wall, you reach a point of saying "f*%k it. It's not worth the trouble." I am about at that point. I have spent almost all my free time for the last 2 days farti

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Il giorno 08/12/12 19:42, frrob ha scritto: > As far as power goes in general, I *do* have four drives. But I have one > empty PCI slot. So I'm not sure if I'm maxing out power or not. IMHO, four drives, three PCI cards (your MDD should have 4 slots) AND the Radeon 9800... Equals too much power fo

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I have one of these in my Gig Ethernet. Just be warned, it is sensitive to higher temps. Make sure you are cleaning out dust on a regular basis. Once you get the power issue sorted, any future video issues, your first step should be to check airflow, and temps. -- You received this message be

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-- Original message -- Subject: Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card Date:Saturday, 08. December 2012 From:frrob To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Regarding heat as the issue, I'm not so sure. According to iStat, the > processor temps h

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-- Original message -- Subject: Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card Date:Saturday, 08. December 2012 From:"Mac User #330250" To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Modern SATA HDDs use 4096k sectors (WD: “Advanced Format”). APM uses 51

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-- Original message -- Subject: Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card Date:Saturday, 08. December 2012 From:Wayne Stewart To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > If it is a failing or marginal power supply you could try removing other > cards and r

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sted about this because I only read a few of the posts here???    -Original Message- From: frrob Sent: Dec 7, 2012 4:34 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card Hello!I have a MDD G4, 1.25 GHz DP, 10.5.8. Last night I installed a Radeo

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Thanks everyone, for all the feedback and suggestions. I will try taking the power off the optical drive connectors next, and see what happens. I have the molex for the 9800 running off the hard drive connector for the drive cage under the optical bay, where I have two SCSI drives (RAID). As

Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

If it is a failing or marginal power supply you could try removing other cards and running the hard drives off an external power supply. Then if it does reboot when hot, you'll know it's your power supply. If it still doesn't then maybe there's something wrong with the video card. -- You recei

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The second thought is that maybe the PSU itself isn't capable of providing enought power for all of the components. And: warmed-up components may draw more power. FWIW I had the same problem when updating my Mystic to the flashed version of a 9800 pro card (taped pins). The general consensus

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-- Original message -- Subject: Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card Date:Saturday, 08. December 2012 From:"Jesse St.John" To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > […] you'll need to segregate the hard drive to its own > power source

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hi, fwiw, years before i owned a powermac, i used slackware exclusively on a tyan tiger dual palomino board with 4 gigs of ram and had a firegl card that needed a molex connection for extra power to the gpu. now all of the finery of my memory is gone from this experience, but the quirks fro

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Il giorno 07/12/12 22:34, frrob ha scritto: > The "solution" I have found to this problem is (if it powered on and gave > me the flashing molex icon) is to manually power it down with the power > button, and (if it didn't power up at all just do this) unplug the machine > for 30 seconds to a minut

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On Dec 7, 2012, at 10:37 PM, frrob wrote: My understanding is that the "tape on pins 3 &11 issue" applies to PC versions of the 9800 card flashed over to Mac, not to original Mac edition cards. This is an original Mac edition card. I don't think the pin 3 & 11 issues was PC vs. Mac cards, I

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Kris: My understanding is that the "tape on pins 3 &11 issue" applies to PC versions of the 9800 card flashed over to Mac, not to *original* Mac edition cards. This is an original Mac edition card. Cards that have the pin issue will cause the machine to not power up *at all * if the pins are n

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Isn't this the tape pins 3 & 11 issue?: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-li

MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card

Hello! I have a MDD G4, 1.25 GHz DP, 10.5.8. Last night I installed a Radeon 9800 Pro 128M AGP (DVI) card, replacing the stock Radeon 9000 68M (ADC). My main motivation for doing this was to have a 128M card, so as to run a larger monitor at full resolution. I didn't really look for the 9800 Pr