Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-04-2011 0:59, Valter Prahlad ha scritto: Now I'll try some data rescue utility... even if I'm not much hopeful. Well, it went better than I thought. I had two partitions with some data lost (i.e. non backed up) in them; one was untouched after partitioning from Disk Utility, on the

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: So, if you happen to erase your disk(s), the old rules still apply: DON'T write anything on that disk, and try to run a data rescue tool (like Data Rescue on OSX, or Norton Unerase in OS9) as soon as possible. You may be lucky. ;-)

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-04-2011 18:59, Bill Connelly ha scritto: I'd be careful about running Norton under OS 9 on an OS X partition ... No no no! That's obvious... :-D On my HD I have five partitions, the first has OSX system and apps on it, the others contain data or OS9 apps (and they come from a

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 9-04-2011 10:08, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: But... now I'm afraid that partitioning the new disk area could alter the existing partitions (I like them, I already have 5 partitions on my boot disk :-). I know it shouldn't happen... It won't happen. It did happen! I booted

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I booted from the Tiger DVD, went to Disk Utility, set up the free space into MacOS format, hit Partition button... and all my data was gone! :-((( (to be honest, Disk Utility informed me that it would happen) Your mistake was using a

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Tuesday, 12. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Il giorno 9-04-2011 10:08, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: But... now I'm afraid

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 12-04-2011 21:28, Kris Tilford ha scritto: Your mistake was using a Tiger DVD, you need Disk Utility from Leopard in order to have non-destructive partitioning capability. Oh! Now I know it... ;-) Andreas (and maybe someone else) mentioned using Leopard's Disk Utility... but nobody

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread t...@io.com
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Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: So, what would happen if one would flash the ROM of a QS with the Open Firmware ROM version of a QS2002? This is interesting. Apple apparently never released any firmware updates for any models of the QS, but I see versions 4.2.1f2,

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Monday, 11. April 2011 From:Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: So, what would happen if one would flash the ROM

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Mac User #330250
MISTAKE: I don't know, but mine has Boot-ROM 4.2.1f2 and is a Quicksilver from 2001 without the LBA-48 property. My Boot-ROM version is 4.2.5f1. Yet another one. Mac OS X 10.4/10.5 reports (German language) Boot-ROM-Version: 4.2.5f1 Mac OS 9.2.2 reports ROM revision:

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Saturday, 09. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Thursday, 07. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 1) The magic number is 131,072 megabytes. Partitions must be wholly below the 131,072 megabyte line, or they must

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread peterhaas
Whether you use the LBA48 technique, or buy a PCI ATA/IDE card, the extra space still hasn't been mapped out by the OS. I believe it all has to be linked together at the initial partitioning time as well. A PCI card necessarily models the HD as SCSI. There have been these versions of the

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread MaGioZal
I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the 128GB HD to it? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ On 4/6/11 6:43 PM, Paul Stamsen at paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Yersinia
On 4/8/11 10:46 PM, MaGioZal wrote: I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the128GB HD to it? Actually that's what I did when I bought two internal 250 GB HDDs for my G4 Quicksilver 867 but I haven't actually asked my boyfriend to

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 9-04-2011 4:46, MaGioZal ha scritto: I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the 128GB HD to it? Well, it could be. But, what if... - The Mac has no PCI slot? (Or no free slot) - Owner doesn't want to open the computer? -

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA with 10.4.11 - 250MB WD HD) After using the script

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Paul Stamsen paterfami...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread peterhaas
[ Excellent summary snipped ] I hope this isn't too complicated. (I tend to write too much.) Just remember this: Using the LBA48 property on a Mac that doesn't support it (without hacking), ALWAYS end and start your paritions at 128 GB! Because then it won't see anything at all of the

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Thursday, 07. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 1) The magic number is 131,072 megabytes. Partitions must be wholly below the 131,072 megabyte line, or they must

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Clark Martin
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Oh, Man! I never knew this! :-o If I only had knew it before... I have a 250GB HD now, using only the first 128GB (of course)... and quite full. I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread peterhaas
The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you re-activate the script. If you keep your current 128Gb partition that will still be available, just any new partition you create will not be available. You might

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. Will I be able to partition and format that portion and using it, WITHOUT DAMAGING the already existing

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Clark Martin
On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. Will I be able to partition and format that portion and

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com My QS 2001 eventually received a QS 2002 motherboard and dual 1.0 GHz processor from an LEM buy, so

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: … Activating the patch will make the remainder of your

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Woah! :-o So it isn't an hardware limitation (as I always had thought)... No. It's an Open

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip) The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you re-activate the script. Sorry, I missed that. How again? No danger if the

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Sean Carroll
Oh, Man! I never knew this! :-o If I only had knew it before... I have a 250GB HD now, using only the first 128GB (of course)... and quite full. Last December, when I was still a complete hardware ignoramus, I faced a situation where replacing one or both of my 40 GB HDs seemed a very

Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread peterhaas
Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 Leopard 10.5.8 Try for an Initio-based SATA card. These are (or were) sold by LaCie, OWC and possibly others. Some are all

Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-05 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 6-04-2011 1:42, peterh...@cruzio.com ha scritto: Speaking of LBA48... Yellow Dog Linux and Debian Linux both report and use the full 250 GB (because that is the size of my HD) in my QS 2001. But Mac OS 10.5 sees it as a 128 GB drive. Woah! :-o So it isn't an hardware limitation (as I