Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Illirik Smirnov
It reminds me of what my sophomore History through Film teacher said when I used Saving Private Ryan as the subject of my report on propaganda films: Sometimes, its fun to be all countercultural and stuff and do things differently, but sometimes everyone does it one way for a good reason. To each

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
I concur 100%. My 1996 PowerMac 7600 with a G4 Sonnet 1000 MHz, IDE HD connected to internal IDE card and plenty of RAM screams with OS 9, but when I boot off OS X it can barely keep the pace of a modest Wallstreet 233MHz. I beleive it is pointless being able to install whatever OS on whatever

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: My 1996 PowerMac 7600 with a G4 Sonnet 1000 MHz, IDE HD connected to internal IDE card and plenty of RAM screams with OS 9, but when I boot off OS X it can barely keep the pace of a modest Wallstreet 233MHz. This isn't correct. I

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
http://www.webalice.it/beniamino.cenci.goga/68k/Power_Macintosh_7600.html ;-) Sent from my iPad On 29/lug/2012, at 17:08, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: My 1996 PowerMac 7600 with a G4 Sonnet 1000 MHz, IDE HD connected to

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser
AFAIK there's no such thing as a 1 GHz G4 for any PCI PowerMac, the fastest possible would be 600 MHz because of the 50 MHz system bus and the 12x multiplier limitation (50 MHz x12 = 600 MHz). There is in fact an 800MHz G4 that Sonnet manufactured (I have one in my 7300), and PowerLogix

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser
http://www.webalice.it/beniamino.cenci.goga/68k/Power_Macintosh_7600.html Aha, so you have the 1GHz version of the 800MHz I have. How does it work for you? I had trouble with the 1GHz G3 I used to use, but I have had better luck with Sonnet cards. --

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
If the whole system is well tuned it runs fine, under OS 9. But not that faster than the G3 it had before. Now the Carrier ZIF is into an 8600 with a G3 350 MHz and the performace are quite similar. All these card are a true nightmare and as soon as you add memory or cards, or even HDs the

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: http://www.webalice.it/beniamino.cenci.goga/68k/Power_Macintosh_7600.html Nice try! Instead of this supposed photo, please give any link to an actual Sonnet product that supports a 1 GHz G4 with an L2 L3 cache on a PCI PowerMac

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser
http://www.webalice.it/beniamino.cenci.goga/68k/Power_Macintosh_7600.html Nice try! Instead of this supposed photo, please give any link to an actual Sonnet product that supports a 1 GHz G4 with an L2 L3 cache on a PCI PowerMac such as the 7600. I do not believe any such product

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I don't know the specific card he is using (ZIF?), but here is the 800MHz G4 my 7300 uses. Yes, a ZIF card would seem to be the only possibility, if you could find the rare 1 GHz G4 ZIF.

Re: eMessage Archiver

2012-07-29 Thread Ken Daggett
On 24 Jul 2012, at 02:33:09 PDT, Barry Levine wrote: Has anyone used this Filemaker runtime developed by John Carlsen for archiving emails? -- The original versions worked well back when Claris EM@ailer was my mail app of choice. Ken -- You received this message because you

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser
http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/sonnettech/crescendo_g4_pci/crescendo_pci_g4_800.html Yes, I forgot about this card. It's drawback is the 4-to-1 backside bus ratio. A 400 MHz card with a 2-to-1 backside bus runs nearly as fast because of this limitation. Now *you're* the one

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser
http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/sonnettech/crescendo_g4_pci/crescendo_pci_g4_800.html Yes, I forgot about this card. It's drawback is the 4-to-1 backside bus ratio. A 400 MHz card with a 2-to-1 backside bus runs nearly as fast because of this limitation. Now *you're* the

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
Nice try! Instead of this supposed photo, please give any link to an actual Sonnet product that supports a 1 GHz G4 with an L2 L3 cache on a PCI PowerMac such as the 7600. I do not believe any such product exists. And also explain how you get a 20x bus ratio. We've had these fake

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

2012-07-29 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
On 29/lug/2012, at 17:08, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: AFAIK there's no such thing as a 1 GHz G4 for any PCI PowerMac, the fastest possible would be 600 MHz because of the 50 MHz system bus and the 12x multiplier limitation (50 MHz x12 = 600 MHz). I don't believe any 600 MHz G4