Re: Software Update
On Feb 21, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:13 PM -0500 2/20/2009, Charles Davis wrote: on Dial-up. [...] 6.37KB/sec Several times in the past few days I have found 'Software Update' downloading something --- who knows what --- I haven't told it to update anything. [No scheduled check for updates.] It's trying to get its own database from Apple, to check if you need anything. I assumed that was what happened during the initial long pause when running 'Software Update'. That database can be VERY large - it includes every package Apple is offering. Anyone care to venture a guess as to what 'Software Update' thinks it's doing. Re-set the schedule (turn it on then turn it off) then initiate a manual check. Let it run until finished. Just ran 'Software Update' from 'Apple' drop down (UL corner of screen). Time taken seems about normal. Download activity didn't seem all that much. The 'Annoying Behavior' download was more data over a longer period of time. Since I was able to 'kill' it, AND it wasn't trying to upload anything, I'll be satisfied just watching for re-occurrences. Thanks for the thoughts. They seem logical, but I don't think tat was what was going on this time. Chuck D. Hopefully it won't get pushy again. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Thin screen drivers required
Thin screen drivers required I was wanting to buy a new thin screen to replace the old CRT screen, but does it require a driver? I found one at the swap meet, but again, knowing nothing about them, do they need a driver or is it built in the OS - if you can plug it in, it will work - sorta thing? Need to know? I am G4 10.4.11. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thin screen drivers required
On Feb 21, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Thin screen drivers required I was wanting to buy a new thin screen to replace the old CRT screen, but does it require a driver? I found one at the swap meet, but again, knowing nothing about them, do they need a driver or is it built in the OS - if you can plug it in, it will work - sorta thing? Need to know? I am G4 10.4.11. Nope, no drivers required. As long as it will plug into your video card and the card supports the resolution of the screen, you are good to go. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Do I really need a new processor?
Hiyas ~ Got the memory working - I mean OWC sent me a new stick and it's fine. Took me awhile to fool around with, mostly because I forgot which stick was which and had to open/close case more often than absolutely necessary, compare numbers on sticks with them, etc. LOL. Now I have a lovely new processor to install, but the machine is running quickly and beautifully as is. Installed DW CS4 plus Flash and they work fine, except I haven't a clue how to use either one. My kid will help me with new Flash - I was using MX. Again LOL. It was $250. Wonder if OWC would let me return it? Impulse buy, for pete's sake. Or maybe install it, this QS has a puny 733mHz processor. Really tired of opening the case, plus a backache from moving the lucite case around. Oldsters will understand. Happy as clam, tho, because I can use this machine for a couple more years - then when 10.6 comes out will buy new. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Change of Computer Name
On Feb 20, 2009, at 5:31 PM, insightinmind wrote: The difference between a cold boot and restart is that power is interrupted in a cold boot, whereas it is not in a restart. So ... If things haven't been closed properly ... they may not open properly next time sort of thing? Well it means that something in the hardware itself is not resetting, and this is causing a problem with the drivers in 10.5 that it isn't in 10.4. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Do I really need a new processor?
Rule of thumb: If it ain't broke don't fix it. More pertinent: Distinguish between 'need' and 'want.' I think you have answered your own question. Apparently but the machine is running quickly and beautifully as is. •• Happy as clam, tho, because I can use this machine for a couple more years - then when 10.6 comes out will buy new.seems to satisfy your need. Apparently Really tired of opening the case, plus a backache from moving the lucite case around. Oldsters will understand. seems to be an legitimate objection to satisfying what could be an undefined and unspecified 'want.' Mel --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: From: Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net Subject: Do I really need a new processor? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 10:09 AM Hiyas ~ Got the memory working - I mean OWC sent me a new stick and it's fine. Took me awhile to fool around with, mostly because I forgot which stick was which and had to open/close case more often than absolutely necessary, compare numbers on sticks with them, etc. LOL. Now I have a lovely new processor to install, but the machine is running quickly and beautifully as is. Installed DW CS4 plus Flash and they work fine, except I haven't a clue how to use either one. My kid will help me with new Flash - I was using MX. Again LOL. It was $250. Wonder if OWC would let me return it? Impulse buy, for pete's sake. Or maybe install it, this QS has a puny 733mHz processor. Really tired of opening the case, plus a backache from moving the lucite case around. Oldsters will understand. Happy as clam, tho, because I can use this machine for a couple more years - then when 10.6 comes out will buy new. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Do I really need a new processor?
It was $250. Wonder if OWC would let me return it? Impulse buy, for pete's sake. Sure ... I believe they have a 30-day, RMA# needed - Return Policy. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
new g4 MDD owner
i'm new to the powermac line, being a long time Pismo owner, and i have a couple of questions, if i may: - will the mdd (dual1.25) take an 'airport extreme' card, or is it limited to slower 'airport' card? any advice for the best way to make this thing wireless, i.e PCI card or something? i don't need anything crazy, but would like to max it out at a reasonable cost. - it came with this ATTO UL3D SCSI Card - which the previous owner says is worth something, but I have no idea what it is, some sort of uber-fast hard drive port...? I doubt it's useful to me, is it worth putting on ebay? those are my two main questions i guess, thanks in advance for the shared knowledge! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Do I really need a new processor?
On Feb 21, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Now I have a lovely new processor to install, but the machine is running quickly and beautifully as is. Installed DW CS4 plus Flash and they work fine, except I haven't a clue how to use either one. My kid will help me with new Flash - I was using MX. Again LOL. It was $250. Wonder if OWC would let me return it? Impulse buy, for pete's sake. Or maybe install it, this QS has a puny 733mHz processor. Really tired of opening the case, plus a backache from moving the lucite case around. Oldsters will understand. Personally I'd install it...as fast as the QS seems now...it will be faster with the CPU upgrade. But I understand the 'tired' comment completely. We just hired a new guy at work, and I went with him to do some system installs and it was VERY nice to have someone else crawl under the desk for a change :-) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
copying 10.5 system disc
hi there i always make a copy of my important discs, and i'd like to make one of the 10.5 Leopard disc that came with my G4 (off ebay), but i see it is dual layer. any nifty tricks for making a copy onto multiple reg. dvds? i have toast. thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying 10.5 system disc
On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Demetrius wrote: i always make a copy of my important discs, and i'd like to make one of the 10.5 Leopard disc that came with my G4 (off ebay), but i see it is dual layer. any nifty tricks for making a copy onto multiple reg. dvds? i have toast. I use Disk Copy for copying the 10.5 install disk, which is indeed dual layer, but Toast will certainly work, too. From the Hackintosh crowd is a bunch of scripts which will remove languages and features from an install disk, and get it down to a single layer. I successfully used that script once. It was a good use for my quad core Hackintosh, as the process takes lots of CPU cycles. The DVDs are not video disks, so they don't have a region. However, a new DVD drive will have to have its home region set the first time you use it. Region 1 is North America (AKA, USA). The ripping tools don't care about region, but DVD Player certainly does. Anyway, try Disk Utility for making a duplicate. I always do my installs from a backup DVD, never from the original DVD media, which I keep in a media safe along with the license materials, etcetera. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying 10.5 system disc
On 22/02/2009, at 10:48 AM, Demetrius wrote: hi there i always make a copy of my important discs, and i'd like to make one of the 10.5 Leopard disc that came with my G4 (off ebay), but i see it is dual layer. any nifty tricks for making a copy onto multiple reg. dvds? i have toast. thanks! G'day Demetrius Unfortunately, no. To be useable on 2 DVD's, the installer would have to be especially written to ask for the second DVD. Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying 10.5 system disc
ok thanks Peter and Brian. i don't think i want to mess around with hacking the install disc down to single layer, sounds risky in the long run, especially for an amateur like me. would it make sense to make a 'disk image', and save it on another drive? i've never done this, but maybe will give it a try. cheers! On Feb 21, 3:48 pm, Demetrius babag...@gmail.com wrote: hi there i always make a copy of my important discs, and i'd like to make one of the 10.5 Leopard disc that came with my G4 (off ebay), but i see it is dual layer. any nifty tricks for making a copy onto multiple reg. dvds? i have toast. thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Do I really need a new processor?
Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Hiyas ~ Got the memory working - I mean OWC sent me a new stick and it's fine. Took me awhile to fool around with, mostly because I forgot which stick was which and had to open/close case more often than absolutely necessary, compare numbers on sticks with them, etc. LOL. Just as a hint for the next time. You can run a G4 case with the cover open. In fact, with a little care, you can open or close it while running. I wouldn't run it for long with the cover open, you don't get proper air flow but it's okay for testing. It makes testing memory and such a lot simpler. Also another trick I've used, if you just want to see if the memory works at all, especially several sticks, disconnect the harddrive then just boot. If it boots to the flashing question mark okay then the memory is okay. Either way you can just power it off at this point. It saves time as you don't have to wait for boot up and shut down. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new g4 MDD owner
Bruce Johnson wrote: - it came with this ATTO UL3D SCSI Card - which the previous owner says is worth something, but I have no idea what it is, some sort of uber-fast hard drive port...? I doubt it's useful to me, is it worth putting on ebay? That's a nice SCSI drive controller card, probably much more valuable to you to sell on Ebay. There's nor real reason for anyone other than a few specialized folks to use SCSI drives these days. Like anything else like this, the best way to tell what it's value on e-bay is is to check the listings for the same or similar items. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying 10.5 system disc
Demetrius wrote: ok thanks Peter and Brian. i don't think i want to mess around with hacking the install disc down to single layer, sounds risky in the long run, especially for an amateur like me. would it make sense to make a 'disk image', and save it on another drive? i've never done this, but maybe will give it a try. cheers! Another option if you have an unused 10 Gb or so HD is to use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the DVD over to the HD. I did this with the Tiger installer to use it on machines without DVD drives. I put the HD in a FireWire case and can then boot from that drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
2 OS Xs - Tiger Leopard; but, Only 1 Fully Utilizing the PCI Cards Installed
On my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, I have my OS Xs on 2 separate partitions (of course): Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5 (currently 10.5.4) Tiger 10.4.11 utilizes all my PCI cards well (so far so good), so I am keeping this OS X as my Audio OS X for now: AGP Slot1 ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition (Apple drivers) PCI Slot2 empty PCI Slot3 M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496 (Tiger Version: v2.0.8 from M- Audio; Leopard Version: none installed) PCI Slot4 Rosewill NIC 10/100/1000 (Tiger Version: rtl8196 version 1.1.1 from Rosewill; Leopard Version: 1.0.3 from Apple) PCI Slot5 empty But, as other threads have indicated, Leopard 10.5.4 and my M-Audio 2496 (alone or in combination with other PCI cards) don't seem compatible at present. Is there anything intrinsically wrong, with Uninstalling the drivers for the M-Audio card on the Leopard partition, and running Leopard for my other tasks? These include Time Machine backups, and over the Network CCC backups from my other Tiger Yikes!. The PCI card will remain physically installed, just no drivers for the Leopard operation. It will then be there for the Tiger operation. So far, after a required Manual Uninstall of Drivers (another indication M-Audio folks aren't up to par with Leopard), it seems to be running kp-blue-screen-free. The Tiger installation seems the same kp-blue-screen-free. I am back to running my AGP ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition as well. Comments welcomed. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
10.5.6 Desktop Icons can't be moved
This weekend I decided that OS10.5 was old enough to try installing it on my PM 2.7 G5. Expecting that things could go wrong I kept the drive with OS10.4.11, and formatted a drive for 10.5.install Ran the installer and it consistantly failed if I tried to use the feature in the configuration assistant that copies your settings and files from a different drive. Feeling kinda smart I reformated the drive and just installed the OS, then used the migration assistant in the utilities folder to move my files and accounts, then ran software update to get everything current. This all seemed to work, but now I can't move any of the icons on the desktop, they are frozen in place. I have used get info to check the icons and they are not locked, I have rights to the icons, I Zaped PRAM, I can left click and put the icon in the trash. I thought this might be related to the migration assistant, but the icons are are frozen in both a new account created during the install and accounts that I migrated. Tried any Apple mouse in place of my Kensington with no change I Googled this issue and what I found was problems where icons and files wrer frozen and could not be opened or deleted, both of which I can do. I'm stumped, but glad I can still startup in 10.4.11. As always any help would be appreciated. Leo Hoyt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5.6 Desktop Icons can't be moved
Sometimes your user preferences can get corrupted over time, or by having the application they are for crash. I would try moving the desktop and finder preferences to a new folder, forcing the OS to create a new one. These are in the Users[your username] LibraryPreferencescom.apple.desktop.plist and com.apple.finder.plist. If you move them to another folder on your hard drive, then log out and back in (or just restart) the OS will create new preference files in the preferences folder. None of your settings for the desktop or finder will remain the same, but if it works it's not that hard to put back your settings. If it makes it worse, or doesn't work, then you can just move the old preference files back into the folder, replacing the new ones. You could also try verifying disk permissions in Disk Utility, (ApplicationsUtilitiesDisk Utility) and repairing them if it comes up with any problems, this does fix a lot of problems! Hope I explained all that well :-) -Cyrus On Feb 21, 9:57 pm, hillhippy leoh...@gmail.com wrote: This weekend I decided that OS10.5 was old enough to try installing it on my PM 2.7 G5. Expecting that things could go wrong I kept the drive with OS10.4.11, and formatted a drive for 10.5.install Ran the installer and it consistantly failed if I tried to use the feature in the configuration assistant that copies your settings and files from a different drive. Feeling kinda smart I reformated the drive and just installed the OS, then used the migration assistant in the utilities folder to move my files and accounts, then ran software update to get everything current. This all seemed to work, but now I can't move any of the icons on the desktop, they are frozen in place. I have used get info to check the icons and they are not locked, I have rights to the icons, I Zaped PRAM, I can left click and put the icon in the trash. I thought this might be related to the migration assistant, but the icons are are frozen in both a new account created during the install and accounts that I migrated. Tried any Apple mouse in place of my Kensington with no change I Googled this issue and what I found was problems where icons and files wrer frozen and could not be opened or deleted, both of which I can do. I'm stumped, but glad I can still startup in 10.4.11. As always any help would be appreciated. Leo Hoyt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5.6 Desktop Icons can't be moved
You might try the free OnyX for Leopard. Don't know which options to use, but it can help with issues like this. Maybe something that Rebuilds things. Maybe you'll locate an expert in the meantime ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
