Help! HD Issues
OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM, ronaldo waltg...@magma.ca wrote: Hi... I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM... even better with 768 MB... But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list) that G3s can (sadly!) *Clarification: Blue and White G3 (smurfs) cannot boot to FW TDM ** Not all G3s have this limitation * NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
I only had 384 megs on my G4 Digital Audio when I originally installed 10.4 so that can't be what's causing the installer to hang. On Aug 25, 8:47 pm, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll go for 1GB RAM for a useable Tiger 10.4 just put in another 512 RAM, and your OS will Install, It should. 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits there with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions? Thanks Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? What do you mean it REFUSES to boot (little pickets walking around the computer :) )? You cloned it using what? Try booting with the option key held down and select the new drive. Realize that if your old HD is dying the data on it may well be corrupt and therefore your copy will also be corrupt if so. You are better off making a clean install to the new drive, installing the apps then copying your user folders over. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
Hi! In addition to the advice from Clark you could update the cloned installation with the original installation CD/DVD to make it work again. If the data really is corrupted then installed Applications may be broken too, but again you could reinstall them. Your user data may be partly working, partly corrupted. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Help! HD Issues Date:Freitag, 28. August 2009N From:Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? What do you mean it REFUSES to boot (little pickets walking around the computer :) )? You cloned it using what? Try booting with the option key held down and select the new drive. Realize that if your old HD is dying the data on it may well be corrupt and therefore your copy will also be corrupt if so. You are better off making a clean install to the new drive, installing the apps then copying your user folders over. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Maybe the Master / Slave settings are causing the control issues? I would try setting your new drive to Master, and removing the old one completely. Then let the system find the drive on its own on its main ATA bus. Later, choose the drive in System Preferences Startup Disk for the next Restart. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
At 6:55 AM -0500 8/28/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Sounds like the old drive was master and new drive isn't, the new drive needs the master present on the ide bus? If that's not the case then Zap the pram then reselect the new boot volume. And I think when booting if you hold down opt-cmd-shift-DELETE, you will cause OF to skip the default volume and seek for another. And holding down the option key, (I think that's right), will tell OF to let you select. And you could always just disconnect the failing drive, so OF doesn't find it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Meant to also say ... As long as you CCC cloned it correctly, it should be bootable. Did it appear in CCC as This volume will be bootable? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Set the new HD to be Master, I'll bet you have it set to Slave. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote: Hey everyone, I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4 without any problems but a G3 it will run very slow... Can someone help me out here to understand what's up??? Tiger runs quite nicely on G3s. I would recommend 512Mb RAM as a minimum. Generally speaking Tiger will be faster than Panther. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote: Hey everyone, I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4 without any problems but a G3 it will run very slow... Can someone help me out here to understand what's up??? Tiger runs quite nicely on G3s. I would recommend 512Mb RAM as a minimum. Generally speaking Tiger will be faster than Panther. has anyone mentioned a good video card being necessary? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What OCR for Leopard?
On Aug 28, 12:09 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Not ragging on you, personally, Bill, but lots of people overlook how much personal information they routinely leak onto the net...and it can come back to bite 'em in the end. We've had a few pharmacy students and applicants who have learned this lesson the hard way. Actually, it was a real example, and I did it on purpose. Overlooked the second ref to my Mom;s name,. so if anyone can edit that out, I would appreciate it. The retirement community CEO and VPs know who I am ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
At 12:40 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Richard Gerome wrote: I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too? We don't mean to confuse usually. We just tend to stray off subject sometimes. :) With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4 without any problems but a G3 it will run very slow... Can someone help me out here to understand what's up??? Tiger on a G3 runs just fine. Adding memory and a better video card can make it run faster. Upgrading the video is, however, moot to the original subject of this thread: a slot-loading iMac. Slower Macs (G3s and early G4s) can be slowed by a few things in Tiger (and Leopard for that matter!). The two most common offenders are Spotlight's file indexing and Dashboard. The indexing bog mostly goes away once the indexing jobs are done. If mostly isn't enough, many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands in Terminal). Dashboard's problem is that it's a big memory hog, 40 MB real plus. If you don't have the xtra memory to spare, it can be also disabled easily enough (with a free tool such as OnyX). HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacFixIt free on September 2nd
At 8:54 AM -0700 8/28/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: As a pay site, MacFixIt was too low quality to be worthwhile in my opinion. Now that it's going to be free, the price seems right in comparison to the quality. Or at last the price matches the quality. Yep. Oh, I donno. I check it now and then - it's interesting to see how the early-bleeders bleed. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands in Terminal). Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD
Thanks for the quick responses from all. My G4 is a 2002 dual 867mHz. The battery was replaced a year ago by someone who was helping me with my computer. I wasn't having any problems, he just thought that after 6 years it was good to replace the battery. But ... maybe I should try replacing the battery first. When I try to clic on an item on my desktop, it won't open, but I can go to Desktop from Finder and open the item from the list. I read up on possible issues when the battery is low or failing, and this sounded like it could be caused by the battery. It's good to hear that the power supply isn't too complicated. I can take things apart and put them back together. If it starts from the re-set button inside the computer, it sounds like it could either be the battery, the external switch (button) or the power supply. Is there an easy way to figure out which it might be, or should I just start with the easiest/cheapest solution? Any thoughts? On Aug 27, 1:35 pm, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com wrote: just taking parts out. takes a little time to snake the wires out and put the new ones back in. Straight forward replacement though... A thought on the MDD power supplies though, I had a second one fail Monday. Only two so far, but both were the last model MDDs made (the 2003 single 1.25GHz non-FW800 ones) and both failed with in a month of each other... Think the PS in those were cheaper than the earlier ones of which we have several (a pair of dual 1.25GHz and a dual 867MHz) none of the early machines power supplies have failed at this point. -sam (after the boss comes back from vacation you may see a late model 1.25GHz MDD G4 for sale... just needs a PS hehe) I've been told that the power supply probably needs replacing in my G4 MMD. Symptoms are: often, when trying to start up, nothing happens, and I have to press the re-set button inside the computer. I have been just putting the computer to sleep to avoid this. Question: How hard is it to replace the power supply? Is it just taking out the drives, and unscrewing and screwing things in, or does it require soldering? Mira --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What OCR for Leopard?
On Aug 27, 2009, at 2:00 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 27-08-2009 16:24, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote: Good, yes, but decidedly TMI. Also redaction need to be 100% to be effective :-) Sorry Bruce, what does TMI stand for in this case? I'll ask because in http://www.acronymfinder.com/TMI.html I couldn't find your meaning for sure. Too Much Informationthat was kind of a personal matter to serve as an example. I wasn't offended, but people should be aware that once information is out on the internet in some form, it's available to anyone with access to Google. Foex, now the nursing home can potentially find out who initiated the complaint. I don't know about VA, but here in AZ that information is confidential, and not released by the agency that investigates this sort of thing. Of course, they would have to look pretty damned hard, (and have a good idea of where to look already) but the name of the patient and the name and home address of the complainant is right there. Not ragging on you, personally, Bill, but lots of people overlook how much personal information they routinely leak onto the net...and it can come back to bite 'em in the end. We've had a few pharmacy students and applicants who have learned this lesson the hard way. The solution, of course, is to change your name, legally, to 'John Smith'. Then virtually no one will ever be able to google you successfully :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Could this be a Master/slave/cable select HD jumper issue? When you try just the new disk, is it set to master and attached to the end connector of the cable? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands in Terminal). Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this? Not to Usurp ... AFAIK, For each partition indexed: sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard Adding this will start it back up: sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard It might be good to add the partition name to the Privacy list in System Preferences Spotlight as well. Works for me on my QS 2002 under Leopard 10.5.7. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
At 9:44 AM -0700 8/28/2009, Clark Martin wrote: What do you mean it REFUSES to boot (little pickets walking around the computer :) )? sigh. I really should keep some paper towels in here. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Aug 28, 8:13 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote: Hey everyone, I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4 without any problems but a G3 it will run very slow... Can someone help me out here to understand what's up??? You're confused, many moons ago I wrote: Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits there with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions? Now I'm even more confused?? Steve Tiger runs quite nicely on G3s. I would recommend 512Mb RAM as a minimum. Generally speaking Tiger will be faster than Panther. has anyone mentioned a good video card being necessary? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? Maybe the Master / Slave settings are causing the control issues? I copied the Master setting off the old HD and the Slave one off the other HD (it is listed) I would try setting your new drive to Master, and removing the old one completely. Then let the system find the drive on its own on its main ATA bus. Tried this. No luck. The computer simply would not find the new HD. Later, choose the drive in System Preferences Startup Disk for the next Restart. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! HD Issues
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Clark Martincm...@sonic.net wrote: Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, the HD that came in this G4 is dying I cloned the HD to another HD I own I then tried to swap out the HDs after telling (in System Prefs) he machine to boot from the new HD However, it REFUSES to boot unless the old failing HD is present. How do I force he machine to let me take out the bad HD? What do you mean it REFUSES to boot (little pickets walking around the computer :) )? You cloned it using what? Carbon Copy Cloner Try booting with the option key held down and select the new drive. OK, will try that Realize that if your old HD is dying the data on it may well be corrupt and therefore your copy will also be corrupt if so. You are better off making a clean install to the new drive, installing the apps then copying your user folders over. The OS X 10.4 CDs did NOT come with this machine. I got the machine off of the LEM Swap List. Disk Utility says it has a Fatal Hardware Error -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD
mkehoe wrote: Thanks for the quick responses from all. My G4 is a 2002 dual 867mHz. The battery was replaced a year ago by someone who was helping me with my computer. I wasn't having any problems, he just thought that after 6 years it was good to replace the battery. But ... maybe I should try replacing the battery first. When I try to clic on an item on my desktop, it won't open, but I can go to Desktop from Finder and open the item from the list. I read up on possible issues when the battery is low or failing, and this sounded like it could be caused by the battery. It's good to hear that the power supply isn't too complicated. I can take things apart and put them back together. If it starts from the re-set button inside the computer, it sounds like it could either be the battery, the external switch (button) or the power supply. Is there an easy way to figure out which it might be, or should I just start with the easiest/cheapest solution? Any thoughts? Not opening files is not a PRAM battery issue. As a general rule PRAM battery problems involve boot up. In the Desktop when you single click on an item is it selected? Can you then open it using the File Menu Open command. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
At 4:18 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands in Terminal). Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this? sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard Adding this will start it back up: sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/Acoustic-Piano-Leopard You can also use /Volumes/* to hit all your volumes. It might be good to add the partition name to the Privacy list in System Preferences Spotlight as well. Doesn't matter. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
