Re: iTunes store shenanigans SOLVED
Hi All, After several hours of frustration, it was a simple fix! iTunes 9.0.1 requires the newest Safari 4 whatever...the latest version. I don't use Safari so I didn't pay any attention to it. I opened Safari to check the version and noticed I had never accept cookies checked. Changing that to always accept fixed the iTunes store problem. Thanks for your input. Bill On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:39 PM -0500 9/28/2009, William Boggs wrote: After years of using the iTunes store without issue (currently on a PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11; iTunes 9.0.1) , all of a sudden it won't let me purchase anything. I can browse the store but when I try to buy, I get a screen that says Your request could not be completed with some stuff about changing my date time or cookies settings. I ran into this also today. I was told, by Apple, it was a problem with the iTunes Store. So give it a day or three... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
If we are serious, let's form an investment grop and do it for ourselves! As not what can do for you,... Ask for stimulus $ and git-er-dun --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
Dan: The machine is a G4 PowerMac w/1.8 GHz Sonnet CPU w/2GB RAM) running OS 10.4.11. Browser is latest Safari version and web access is through a cable connection. I have 4 internal hard drives, but use the 40GB WDC WD400BB for most things because it seems the fastest. I don't think that heat is the issue and the activity monitor indicates that I'm nowhere near maxing anything out. I wonder if maybe there's something I need to do to speed things up overall, but haven't a clue as to what that would be. Recently, the screen froze when I had several apps open at the same time (including Software Update) and that was a mess to deal with. Thanks for any help you can give me. Tray On Sep 28, 9:56 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:26 AM -0400 9/28/2009, Tray Stephenson wrote: I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. This is a Power Mac or ? OS? Fully updated? Browser involved? Media type / plug-ins? ...Can't really say what's happening unless we know your exact environment. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Max wrote: On Sep 28, 9:56 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:26 AM -0400 9/28/2009, Tray Stephenson wrote: I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. This is a Power Mac or ? OS? Fully updated? Browser involved? Media type / plug-ins? ...Can't really say what's happening unless we know your exact environment. - Dan. The machine is a G4 PowerMac w/1.8 GHz Sonnet CPU w/2GB RAM) running OS 10.4.11. Browser is latest Safari version and web access is through a cable connection. I have 4 internal hard drives, but use the 40GB WDC WD400BB for most things because it seems the fastest. DING DING DING!!! I think we found the winner You may not be maxing out the processor, but running video is a pretty constant load vs photoshop/writing/regular browsing. The heat generated by a 1.8 plus 4 HDs is probably the culprit. Try running with the side door open and see what happens. FWIW, I had 4 HDs in a DA with a dual 1.2GHz G4. I was getting plenty of random freezes. That was with both of the processors running in the 15-35% utilization per MenuMeters. Opened up the side door and no more freezes. BTW, a 40GB seems the fastest drive out of 4? That is pretty unlikely unless they are all around the same vintage. Have you run any speed tests on them? Are any decent sized by todays standards? If not, replacing them with one or 2 larger drives will get you faster speed and most likely longer life. Even if you don't go SATA and stay PATA, a ata133 card and a couple of 250GB HDs off the swap list will get you a real speed boost and cut down the heat Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
Hi Tray, When you say it freezes, does it just stop responding, or does it bring up a mostly grey screen telling you to turn the computer off in a few different languages? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bounty Offered on Mac infections
Title: Re: Bounty Offered on Mac infections At 4:06 AM -0400 9/29/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This morning report will explain. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4451tag=nl.e550 Realize that that blog posting, and the dozen other articles, are rehashes of a rehashed story. This is just the news media distracting you because they've got nothing else mean to crow against Apple[*]. In a sign that cyber-criminals are investing more time and resources into attacks against Apple's Mac users, a new malware affiliate program has been discovered offering 43c for every infected Mac machine. ROFL These putz criminals have been offering such bounties for years, for machines of all platforms - pc, mac, unix, linix, etc. I would venture they stopped paying the bounty for peecees years ago tho - they're just too easy to gnab. Note that the site *was* - it's dead now, Jim - doing all this thru trojans. With all that interest, they couldn't manage to produce a single true virus for Mac OS X! They had to relay on lame-a** trojans and hope they found users stupid enough to install them. ROFL. [*] Remember they just got done ranting about the fact that Apple shipped Snow Leopard with an old version of Flash. They're now trying to avoid that story so they don't end up looking like idiots -- because the reality is that the up to date version of Flash that Apple could have shipped, at the time, has a LOT of stability problems. Apple had a choice: Ship a version with security holes that don't have any instances of affecting Macs, or ship one that will cause x% of Mac users to scream bloody murder because it makes Safari crash What would you do? heh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:31 PM, spiceyweasel wrote: Am I asking too much, really? I think it would open a whole new stream of revenue for Apple and make a lot of die hard old Mac fans very happy. For a large number of reasons, not the least of which is that Apple is not a components company, Apple will never do that. The support costs alone would dwarf the paltry revenue that would come from this. Apple wants to sell you a NEW computer. That's what they're in business to do. But why re-invent the wheel. A little googling will show you how a very large number of people have managed to install OS X on non-apple equipment. Stuff a compatible intel board into the case (which will require some modding, I'd expect) and bob's yer uncle, you have what you want, without whinging for Apple to do it. Apple is not going to allow people or companies to sell these things, as, technically, a Hackintosh is not allowed under the EULA that comes with OS X, but Apple's not hunting down individuals and suing them, only companies that attempt to get into the business. (Pystar) Buy a legal copy of OS X, don't steal it, head to the forums and go. Google is your friend. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
Am I serious? ..Why, I made the logo, didn't I? I hope to generate interest in the idea in Cupertinochiefly to avoid those mean Apple lawyers, but also to put it in the hands of the people who would be able to bring the product to market fastest. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, pas...@verizon.net pas...@verizon.net wrote: From: pas...@verizon.net pas...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Mac Retro Anyone? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 7:00 AM If we are serious, let's form an investment grop and do it for ourselves! As not what can do for you,... Ask for stimulus $ and git-er-dun --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
I agree with you on this. But the downside being the cost of assembly in my point of view. I would love to be able to run Snow Leopard on my G4 but at what cost...? I don't know about the rest of you, but I find my old trusty G4 tower and green, see-through iMac G3 to be more aesthetically pleasing than the newer, metallic offerings from Apple. Further, I am dismayed by the fact Apple has turned it's back on it's plastic past and not allowed we, the retro-digging users, to share the benefits of an Intel processed machine. Is it asking too much of Apple to release mother boards that fit our machines with some of the technical savvy their metal wrapped cousins enjoy? I'm not asking for something that will put my Power Mac G4 on par with a Mac Pro, but it would be nice to compete with a mini AND still have a little room for expansion. Give me a 2GHz Intel with, let's say.8GB of RAM, space for three hard drives, perhaps dual layer super drive support or, better still Blu Ray capability? Am I asking too much, really? I think it would open a whole new stream of revenue for Apple and make a lot of die hard old Mac fans very happy. Heck, I even came up with an ultra mod, way cool logo! Come on Steve Jobs, let's do this! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:31 AM, spiceyweasel spiceywea...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but I find my old trusty G4 tower and green, see-through iMac G3 to be more aesthetically pleasing than the newer, metallic offerings from Apple. Further, I am dismayed by the fact Apple has turned it's back on it's plastic past and not allowed we, the retro-digging users, to share the benefits of an Intel processed machine. Is it asking too much of Apple to release mother boards that fit our machines with some of the technical savvy their metal wrapped cousins enjoy? I'm not asking for something that will put my Power Mac G4 on par with a Mac Pro, but it would be nice to compete with a mini AND still have a little room for expansion. Give me a 2GHz Intel with, let's say.8GB of RAM, space for three hard drives, perhaps dual layer super drive support or, better still Blu Ray capability? Am I asking too much, really? I think it would open a whole new stream of revenue for Apple and make a lot of die hard old Mac fans very happy. Heck, I even came up with an ultra mod, way cool logo! Come on Steve Jobs, let's do this! I to am a Dreamer myself, and have wondered aloud here why not'. To be inundated by the realists refutation of any such scheme. The Corporate Church must not be expected to give boons to the devotees. Many on LEM will be happy to bore you with good rational reasons why this will idea of Intel mobos for old Macs will NEVER happen. I will let them work their magic in peace. Perhaps though you would give some attention and money to plop a Mini mobo or whatever you can afford used into one of your beloved Macs and be proud of the accomplishment. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bounty Offered on Mac infections
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 4:06 AM -0400 9/29/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: [*] Remember they just got done ranting about the fact that Apple shipped Snow Leopard with an old version of Flash. They're now trying to avoid that story so they don't end up looking like idiots -- because the reality is that the up to date version of Flash that Apple could have shipped, at the time, has a LOT of stability problems. Apple had a choice: Ship a version with security holes that don't have any instances of affecting Macs, or ship one that will cause x% of Mac users to scream bloody murder because it makes Safari crash What would you do? heh. - Dan. ___ Well noted here Dan -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
Well, nothing Apple makes is manufactured in this country. The last samples that were IIRC were G4 desktops. In order to be competitive, components would have to come from overseas as well. If this effort gathers steam, it will be in the spotlight of Apple's legal beagles where they have a source of cash from very deep pockets. OTOH, I would love to see Apple create a midrange desktop but I certainly will not hold my breath waiting. Regarding plastic retro, I detest nearly everything plastic! JT On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:18 PM, shawn matthews wrote: Alaswhat I said. Still, will we blindly accept our machines are doomed to be scrap? Let us, instead, leave the seeing to those with vision. Were I more technically inclined, I'd build mother boards for other machines that just incidentally fit in old Macs and could run OSX, even though I'd advertise them for Windows. Maybe someone in China will pick up the ball like they did with their Shanghai Special iPhone. Pity. It'd be nice if that money stayed here in the U.S. . --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: You'll be spending all that money on lawyers, dudebecause Apple will sue your a** in a heartbeat. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Compare Cell Phone Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYbhAUGH0GgOV4NTiij1bq32IFXY479EEpgdAmpKOyzC2rplnWeaRq/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Mac Retro Anyone?
Gee I use my G4 for serious stuff and a Quadra for play does that count as Mac Retro? Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you From: jetas...@netzero.com Subject: Re: Mac Retro Anyone? Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:06:51 -0500 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Well, nothing Apple makes is manufactured in this country. The last samples that were IIRC were G4 desktops. In order to be competitive, components would have to come from overseas as well. If this effort gathers steam, it will be in the spotlight of Apple's legal beagles where they have a source of cash from very deep pockets. OTOH, I would love to see Apple create a midrange desktop but I certainly will not hold my breath waiting. Regarding plastic retro, I detest nearly everything plastic! JT On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:18 PM, shawn matthews wrote:Alaswhat I said. Still, will we blindly accept our machines are doomed to be scrap? Let us, instead, leave the seeing to those with vision. Were I more technically inclined, I'd build mother boards for other machines that just incidentally fit in old Macs and could run OSX, even though I'd advertise them for Windows. Maybe someone in China will pick up the ball like they did with their Shanghai Special iPhone. Pity. It'd be nice if that money stayed here in the U.S. . --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: You'll be spending all that money on lawyers, dudebecause Apple will sue your a** in a heartbeat. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Compare Cell Phone Carriers- Click Now. _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Mac Retro Anyone?
At 15:55 -0400 9/29/09, Kirk Morrison wrote: Gee I use my G4 for serious stuff and a Quadra for play does that count as Mac Retro? My SE/30 file server sits on top of a Mac II case with everything but its power supply removed. Instead of a Mac II motherboard there are three SCSI disks that are used by the SE/30. There is a simple 4.5 volt dry cell battery and a switch that can be used to turn on the whole system, thanks to the switched power for a monitor that the Mac II power supply provides. My G4 sawtooth is limited to OS 10.3.9 so it can share files. Sigh. Should I be worrying about Apple's lawyers? -- -- So are we going to celebrate the start of a new decade at the end of this year? Or do the tens start at in January 2011? -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.comwrote: OTOH, I would love to see Apple create a midrange desktop but I certainly will not hold my breath waiting. Regarding plastic retro, I detest nearly everything plastic! JT We gave that subject a thorough wringing to the last drop here several times in the last year didn't we James? :) An affordable desktop would be a real boon to homes and small businesses. It would be nice if Apple would take heed. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Mac Retro Anyone?
My decades start on the 8's. Got 9 more years before I hit my 5th. Welcome to the Retrolution! --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: From: Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com Subject: RE: Mac Retro Anyone? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 5:22 PM At 15:55 -0400 9/29/09, Kirk Morrison wrote: Gee I use my G4 for serious stuff and a Quadra for play does that count as Mac Retro? My SE/30 file server sits on top of a Mac II case with everything but its power supply removed. Instead of a Mac II motherboard there are three SCSI disks that are used by the SE/30. There is a simple 4.5 volt dry cell battery and a switch that can be used to turn on the whole system, thanks to the switched power for a monitor that the Mac II power supply provides. My G4 sawtooth is limited to OS 10.3.9 so it can share files. Sigh. Should I be worrying about Apple's lawyers? -- -- So are we going to celebrate the start of a new decade at the end of this year? Or do the tens start at in January 2011? -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
That's why you have to stop beating a dead horse and join the Retrolution. If nothing else, Apple might get weary enough of us to placate us with said mid-level offering. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Mac Retro Anyone? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:25 PM On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: OTOH, I would love to see Apple create a midrange desktop but I certainly will not hold my breath waiting. Regarding plastic retro, I detest nearly everything plastic! JT We gave that subject a thorough wringing to the last drop here several times in the last year didn't we James? :) An affordable desktop would be a real boon to homes and small businesses. It would be nice if Apple would take heed. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, shawn matthews spiceywea...@yahoo.comwrote: That's why you have to stop beating a dead horse and join the Retrolution. If nothing else, Apple might get weary enough of us to placate us with said mid-level offering. -- __ Either way it would be refreshing to discuss subjects with some verve related to old Macs. I agree, they are machines meant to be driven not idolized, and in that use be really worth valuing. Imagine if hot rodders were never allowed to modify or improve their cars. Ever go to a car show? Compare how many are looking at the stock restored cars and how many are crowded around those that are hopped up. Even factory muscle cars are boring when a modified bomb is there. And those muscle cars would never have been built if hot rodders had not shown the corporations the way. And hot rodders working for the corporations were the ones who designed the muscle cars. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
So, I take it you'll join the Retrolution? Sign up to follow the blog and lay down your specs while you're there. If we can show Apple enough people are interested in this, we may achieve our goal. I'm with you. When it comes to computers, I like to turn Pintos into Cobras and Vegas into 'Vettes.so to speak. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Mac Retro Anyone? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:12 PM On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, shawn matthews spiceywea...@yahoo.com wrote: That's why you have to stop beating a dead horse and join the Retrolution. If nothing else, Apple might get weary enough of us to placate us with said mid-level offering. -- __ Either way it would be refreshing to discuss subjects with some verve related to old Macs. I agree, they are machines meant to be driven not idolized, and in that use be really worth valuing. Imagine if hot rodders were never allowed to modify or improve their cars. Ever go to a car show? Compare how many are looking at the stock restored cars and how many are crowded around those that are hopped up. Even factory muscle cars are boring when a modified bomb is there. And those muscle cars would never have been built if hot rodders had not shown the corporations the way. And hot rodders working for the corporations were the ones who designed the muscle cars. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Retro Anyone?
At 20:11 -0600 9/29/09, nestamicky wrote: On 09-09-29 04:22 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: My G4 sawtooth is limited to OS 10.3.9 so it can share files. Sigh. What do you mean by this. Mine goes to 10.4.11 is this why I can't get it to see my Linux box? No. My G4 talks to Ubuntu just fine but there are some things that have to be set up. 1) You really can't, in 10.4 plus, share files so that they show up in the OS neXt finder. There are some third party and open software goodies for that but I don't use them. Flex and SMB might be spelled wring. What you can do is to run Netpresenz from Stairways Software on your older Mac to make an ftp server out of it. 2) OS neXt's Finder_Go_Connect_to_server menu item will allow access to Ubuntu files if you have an ftp server enabled over there. There are a dozen or so ftp server products probably available in whatever distribution you're using. But Finder ftp is a one way connection. Apple does not believe you might want to send files using ftp. 3) Interarchy, from Stairways, will go both ways. Personally I prefer the UNIX tool curl but you do have to use a Terminal window or an AppleScript for that. 4) Actually I have set up an ssh (secure shell) certificate on the Mac, the Ubuntu box, and a few other machines so that I can use the scp UNIX command to copy files in both directions without worrying about passwords or even mounting disks. With 10.4 plus you should be able to do all of those things. What you can't do after 10.3.9 is to use AppleTalk over ethernet to mount drives that are owned by an OS 7.5 box so that Finder will see them and allow the usual mouse driven open, drag, and drop operations. Apple turned that off in Tiger. There is an option by Open Door Software called Shareway but hold on to your pocketbook if you think about that. And. . . . as for Retro, perhaps a scheme for putting Intel boards that will run Linux in old Mac cases would be at least as reasonable as OS neXt. There wouldn't be any copyright problems. Boot Camp for Linux and OS neXt? Run Linux applications using X11 running under OS X? -- -- In Christianity, man can have only one wife. This is known as monotony. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
