Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: > I've noticed something. The government keeps us out of all of their > little secrets. 64-bit is not ever close to being new. The standard > computer out there today in best buy is 64-bit, while back in the > 1960's the world's first 64-bit

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I've noticed something. The government keeps us out of all of their little secrets. 64-bit is not ever close to being new. The standard computer out there today in best buy is 64-bit, while back in the 1960's the world's first 64-bit computer was overly protected by the government and was operated

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:43 PM, ah...clem wrote: > how can you tell if it's booting the 32-bit kernel or 64-bit kernel? I look at what is listed in the System Profiler under "Software" The image below is from the article at the 2'nd link. http://macperformanceguide.com/images-SnowLeopard/Verif

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Dan
At 4:47 PM -0700 6/18/2010, ah...clem wrote: i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit operating system, Mac OS X has provided a 64-bit application environment for quite some time, on hardware that could support it. Parts were there in Tiger, then more in Leopard. Bu

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread ah...clem
how can you tell if it's booting the 32-bit kernel or 64-bit kernel? btw, i am not a complete idiot. i wrote code 40+y ago, in fortran G and IBM Turbo assembler (one step above 1s and 0s). at the time, i had a moderate understanding of system level computing. but i haven't done anything like th

Re: Corsair Nova 32GB SSD On Sale for $69.99

2010-06-18 Thread Chance Reecher
Adapters do exist that convert PATA to SATA, but they are quite large and designed for use in desktops. I don' t think it would even be possible to fit such an adapter in a PowerBook, unless you did serious internal modifications to make space for the adapter. Vic Mabus wrote: http://www.tomsh

Corsair Nova 32GB SSD On Sale for $69.99

2010-06-18 Thread Vic Mabus
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nova-32GB-SSD-Rebate-Netbook,10697.html#xtor=RSS-181 I saw this bargain on Tom's Hardware, but I haven't found any adapter that would allow me to put one of these in an old PowerBook with PATA (or is it PITA?) interface. It would have to be quite slim. Has an

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:35 PM, iJohn wrote: Perhaps his complaint is related to the fact that many of the Intel Macs are currently still booting the 32-bit kernel rather than the 64-bit kernel. Most likely. My Product Hs boot Snow in 64-bit mode, and they work fine that way. The only time I h

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ah...clem wrote: > ok, well this *clueless wanker* is Dr. Warren Hehre, developer of > Spartan and numerous other scientific computing apps, who has been > writing apps for MacOS for the past 20 years. Oh, great. At first I thought he was just an idiot, but it now

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I should probably mention that it says on the Software Restore disks that it is compatible with OS 10.1.2 and OS 9.22. Should that give me problems with 104.11? Just do straight 10.4 and the the updates to 10.4.11. you can skip all the

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Stewart
I should probably mention that it says on the Software Restore disks that it is compatible with OS 10.1.2 and OS 9.22. Should that give me problems with 104.11? On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Scotty wrote: > >> This may fit under the headin

OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread ah...clem
ok, well this *clueless wanker* is Dr. Warren Hehre, developer of Spartan and numerous other scientific computing apps, who has been writing apps for MacOS for the past 20 years. i have a spiffy new 3.3 GHz 2010 Mac that came with SL 10.6.3 factory installed, and i also have the latest version of

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, ah...clem wrote: > i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit > operating system, and because of that, no application can address more > than 2GB of RAM. Well, no. Your reliable source is apparently not so reliable. The complete answer is ..

Re: Dual 1GHz Quicksilver won't sleep!

2010-06-18 Thread Al Poulin
And for "The Insomniac Mac," look here: http://www.macworld.com/article/48345/2005/12/nonightnight.html Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at htt

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
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Re: ***SPAM*** OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:47 PM, ah...clem wrote: > i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit s/reliable source/clueless wanker/ There, fixed it for yah. In actuality it is both. up through 10.5 OS X was 32-bit (with 64 bit parts on some systems, notably the G5's) 10.6 is

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Scotty wrote: This may fit under the heading of stupid newbie questions so please be patient with me. My Mac may be 8 years old, but I am really new to the platform. I have a G4 933 mhz Quicksilver. When I bought it had a clean install of OSX 10.5 on it, but no

Re: OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Stewart
I don't know for sure, but up until recently there has been so few 64 bit applications out there to make it largely irrelevant until fairly recently. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM, ah...clem wrote: > i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit > operating system, and becau

OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread Scotty
This may fit under the heading of stupid newbie questions so please be patient with me. My Mac may be 8 years old, but I am really new to the platform. I have a G4 933 mhz Quicksilver. When I bought it had a clean install of OSX 10.5 on it, but no 10.5 disk was included with it. Anyway. The so

OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

2010-06-18 Thread ah...clem
i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit operating system, and because of that, no application can address more than 2GB of RAM. if this is true, i am shocked. WTF is going on at apple?? hyping 64-bit hardware for the past seven years and loading it with a 32-bit OS???

[Manager Comment] Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Dan wrote: At 1:11 AM -0700 6/18/2010, Ed Grey wrote: test Unless you're the list administrator, there is NEVER a need to send a test message to an entire mailing list. Be considerate. There are people on the lists with slow and/or metered connections. Don

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Dan
At 1:02 AM -0700 6/18/2010, Ed Grey wrote: My understanding is that Apple is not releasing any more security updates for Tiger. "My understanding". Yea, a lot of people suddenly understand that -- but there has been no announcement from Apple. So it's just a guess. There are still some up

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 18, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > I have never really felt insecure running a Mac wide open on the internet > since the OS 8 days. The only virus infection I've EVER gotten on any of my > Macs was the WDEF virus. I've taken precaustions with The life of a sysadmin is interr

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:05 AM, Ed Grey wrote: > > That leads to the question I was going to ask before I saw this thread > - without new security updates, is there any reason to worry about > using Tiger on the Internet? Almost all of the security updates involve either local privilege escalation

Re: Preparing my "new" G4 MDD 1.42GHz 'puter

2010-06-18 Thread onelucent
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Re: Preparing my "new" G4 MDD 1.42GHz 'puter

2010-06-18 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Gratz on the 1.44! I've been looking for one in nice shape. The NOISE problem is a biggun, but a good way is to get some sheets of foam and cut/tape them so that they are attached to the sides of the computer. It dampens noise. No joke, my 747-esque SPARCSTATION has a 2-inch thick styrofoam wall, a

Re: Preparing my "new" G4 MDD 1.42GHz 'puter

2010-06-18 Thread Ken Daggett
On 18 Jun 2010, at 07:59:18 PDT, JIM RAPER wrote: 2nd ? I will tackle the NOISE problem next. It is solvable, isn't it? - Buy some long cables and put in another room! It sure is quiet in my family room when the MDD shuts down! Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -

Preparing my "new" G4 MDD 1.42GHz 'puter

2010-06-18 Thread JIM RAPER
Hi, Got the above mentioned computer Wed. Couple of, hopefully, simple questions. I have loads of bookmarks on my old Sawtooth. Is there an easy way to transfer them over into FireFox Bookmarks? I have been able to save them to a Flash drive and they are live when I open up the flash in my MDD. 2n

Re: Is there any way to use a Panther upgrade CD set to install onto a blank hard drive?

2010-06-18 Thread Kris Tilford
The only difference in an "upgrade" disc and a full installer is that there is a "CheckForOSX" file that checks for a previous OS X version on the HD and blocks you if it isn't there. You need to remove this "CheckForOSX" file. Here are instructions: Here's the method for a Leopard upgrade

Is there any way to use a Panther upgrade CD set to install onto a blank hard drive?

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Grey
I discovered that I have a set of 10.3 Panther CD's, but even though they're the black retail-looking ones, the first disc (of 3) says "Upgrade" on it. I know there was a way to use a Leopard upgrade disc to a blank drive, but that trick involved Time Machine, which didn't exist with 10.3. So - is

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Grey
test On Jun 18, 3:05 am, Ed Grey wrote: > On Jun 16, 3:44 am, Kris Tilford wrote: > > > Apple hasn't yet issued a security update for Tiger, so perhaps it's > > truly abandoned forever now? > > My understanding is that Apple is not releasing any more security > updates for Tiger. There are still

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Grey
On Jun 16, 3:44 am, Kris Tilford wrote: > Apple hasn't yet issued a security update for Tiger, so perhaps it's > truly abandoned forever now? > My understanding is that Apple is not releasing any more security updates for Tiger. There are still some updates for apps that run in Tiger, but even

Re: Security Update 2010-004 for Leopard 10.5

2010-06-18 Thread Ed Grey
My understanding is that Apple is not releasing any more security updates for Tiger. There are still some updates for apps that run in Tiger, but even Firefox is discontinuing support after version 3.6. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3,