DTS Scan (Screen drum scanner) working on Beige G3 at least!
Hello, with precious help from Ross (many thanks, Ross!!) I've managed to resolve my DTS Scan freezing issue. It was the virtual memory! It really looked like a SCSI problem, but it was not. Well, not entirely. I've turned virtual memory off, and now I have DTS Scan uprunning at full speed on both my Beige G3 (OS 8.1, built-in SCSI adapter) and BlueWhite G3 (OS 9.2.1, Adaptec 2906 PCI card). Probably, since the DTS Scan application is so old, it had the SCSI Manager calls at non-relocatable addresses. With Virtual Memory on, SCSI DMA functions entry points may have been messed up and the application tried to access invalid memory locations, thus freezing up everything. Just a theory. Anyway, turning off virtual memory was the key. :-) Thanks a lot to all the people who supported me, a big special thank to Ross. Fernando -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Marty Levine wrote: The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. If you haven't zapped the PRAM and/or reset the NVRAM (or pressed the CUDA reset button), this would be a good thing to do. When you're adding new hardware, it's best to start from scratch as far as anything stored in non-volatile memory goes. I'm thinking the problem with the Radeon 9200 is the old pins 3 11 issue. The 9200 is normally an AGPx8 card, and needs tape or modification to disable pins 3 11. You can read about the 9200 here: http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9200.html Here is the pins 3 11 info here: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 I'd go ahead and install Leopard, it's gotta be better than messing with Panther. I'm not up-to-speed on Airport issues, but I think some people add a $ sign at the beginning of their password under certain encryption protocols to get the password to recognize. For example, if your password was password you'd enter $password instead and it would recognize. I will look for the CUDA reset button tonight as well as research the pin issue with the links you provided. Just for the heck of it I just tried the $ in the password before I head off to work - no luck there. I do think it is WEP vs WPA/WPA2 issue and will try Leopard install tonight with original video card while I do my other research on the pin issue. That should take hours and at least give me WPA/WPA2 options. I will try a USB wireless G/N adapter after I install my USB2 card tonight (after the Leopard install). Do I need the speed of USB2 for those kind of wireless connections? Thanks everyone to all for your comments so far. -- Marty p.s. I even remembered to bottom post -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Dan Palka wrote: I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:16 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working? On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Dan Palka wrote: I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) There are software tricks and tools (LeopardAssist?) to let one install 10.5 on a slower system. As for the OP, I'd take a look to make sure your Firmware is up-to-date. When I was looking to try Leopard on my Sawtooth, I saw a couple of comments which pointed in that direction. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) There are software tricks and tools (LeopardAssist?) to let one install 10.5 on a slower system. As for the OP, I'd take a look to make sure your Firmware is up-to-date. When I was looking to try Leopard on my Sawtooth, I saw a couple of comments which pointed in that direction. John The OP stated a Mini G4 in the mix I sometimes feel that the Mini system can be problematic I would do an install on a FW drive from any G4 867 up except a Mini and see if I could boot the FW drive on the Gigabit. Then you may have to reset all in the Gigabit, remove every thing from the machine including the RAM, HDD's , PRAM battery and unplug all cables you can , hold CUDA down for 30 secs and reinstall your parts. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:27 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The OP stated a Mini G4 in the mix I sometimes feel that the Mini system can be problematic I would do an install on a FW drive from any G4 867 up except a Mini and see if I could boot the FW drive on the Gigabit. Then you may have to reset all in the Gigabit, remove every thing from the machine including the RAM, HDD's , PRAM battery and unplug all cables you can , hold CUDA down for 30 secs and reinstall your parts. Actually, it did end up being the firmware. It was still the original that I had gotten from the previous owner, which ran Tiger fine but Leopard wanted the 4.2.8 update found here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120068 Installing from Mac Mini was fine, although I reinstalled it directly from the Power Mac using the hacked Open Firmware trick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: troubles upgrading new to me Quicksilver with Radeon 9200 and Airport Issues
On Aug 20, 6:36 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Marty Levine wrote: The Quicksilver boots up with the original video card but the machine will not even power up with the 9200 card installed. I'm thinking the problem with the Radeon 9200 is the old pins 3 11 issue. The 9200 is normally an AGPx8 card, and needs tape or modification to disable pins 3 11. You can read about the 9200 here: http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9200.html Here is the pins 3 11 info here: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 I would agree with this, the AGP slot in any Mac that originally supported Apple display port (the one that powers the monitor) used pin 3 11 as power on so that the monitor could power up the Mac, at the time (AGP 1x / 2x) the pins had not been defined so Apple decided to use them in a non-standard way. However when AGP 8x came out the pins were used. What this means is that any non Display Port AGP card will probably ground pins 3 11, the motherboard then thinks the power button is held down and won't power on. The easy way round this is to just cut the traces to these pins (just ensure you have the right ones BEFORE you cut !) as the tape method is fiddly and needs re-doing almost every time you remove the card. Ben. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
a tale of G5 towers, a question
I have a 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac and (as in sig below) a Dual Processor 2.3GHz PowerMac. The latter lacks the connector to add a second internal hard drive; it does possess the power connector. My 1.8GHz, which I am going to sell/give away, does possess a second, connected-and-working internal hard drive. Is it possible -- easy? -- to take the data connector from the 1.8GHz G5 and put it on the DP2.3GHZ G5? Or are the two Macs incompatible in this as they are in RAM? My Quicksilver problem of a few weeks ago remains. I tried resetting the board, I tried doing that AFTER I replaced the PRAM battery (which RadioShack now charges nearly a sawbuck for). Still, same turn-off problem. I may let that computer die an ignoble death. Timo V PowerPC G5x2.3GHz MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 / Power Macintosh 5500/Macintosh SE/30/Macintosh Classic -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: a tale of G5 towers, a question
On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TVirkkala wrote: I have a 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac and (as in sig below) a Dual Processor 2.3GHz PowerMac. The latter lacks the connector to add a second internal hard drive; it does possess the power connector. My 1.8GHz, which I am going to sell/give away, does possess a second, connected-and-working internal hard drive. Is it possible -- easy? -- to take the data connector from the 1.8GHz G5 and put it on the DP2.3GHZ G5? I think you've missed something here. The dual G5 should have both SATA cables for two HDs. One set of cables comes from above the HD space, the other set of cables comes from below the HD space. Either set can be somewhat hidden if they're retracted back into the slots that house them. There should be mounting screws, the special hemispherical ones, for a 2nd HD mounted onto the plastic wall of the HD fan housing. If you don't have the correct cables screws for a 2nd HD this means someone has removed them previously. The G5 takes standard SATA cables, preferably with matching bends to the OEM Apple cables. The mounting screws are harder to come by, and many people have modified other screws to work successfully. If you need even more HDs, the Sonnet G5 Jive bracket works will, and the Firmtek Seritek SATA cards are the best option if you need bootable HDs within a G5 Jive unit. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: a tale of G5 towers, a question
I just use this card from an old G4 that lets me use a PATA drive. I suppose someone was on the hunt for an SATA cable and before you got the computer took it. They can be significantly hidden, bu if you can't find them I suppose its time for cable hunting. Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TVirkkala wrote: I have a 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac and (as in sig below) a Dual Processor 2.3GHz PowerMac. The latter lacks the connector to add a second internal hard drive; it does possess the power connector. My 1.8GHz, which I am going to sell/give away, does possess a second, connected-and-working internal hard drive. Is it possible -- easy? -- to take the data connector from the 1.8GHz G5 and put it on the DP2.3GHZ G5? I think you've missed something here. The dual G5 should have both SATA cables for two HDs. One set of cables comes from above the HD space, the other set of cables comes from below the HD space. Either set can be somewhat hidden if they're retracted back into the slots that house them. There should be mounting screws, the special hemispherical ones, for a 2nd HD mounted onto the plastic wall of the HD fan housing. If you don't have the correct cables screws for a 2nd HD this means someone has removed them previously. The G5 takes standard SATA cables, preferably with matching bends to the OEM Apple cables. The mounting screws are harder to come by, and many people have modified other screws to work successfully. If you need even more HDs, the Sonnet G5 Jive bracket works will, and the Firmtek Seritek SATA cards are the best option if you need bootable HDs within a G5 Jive unit. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The ResEdit option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to get computer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19. As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The ResEdit option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to get computer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19. As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The ResEdit option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to get computer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19. As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences and yes I'm using DVI-DVI. On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The ResEdit option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to getcomputer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19. As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences and yes I'm using DVI-DVI. On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The ResEdit option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to getcomputer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19. As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences I think it's a TV only thing. On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed Check the onscreen controls for the option to switch between stretch and 1:1 display. Most (many, some???) LCD monitors have two options when not displaying at the inherent (maximum) resolution. One is to stretch the image to fit the screen. When this it's stretched unequally in both dimensions it can get quite distorted. The other option is to display it at 1:1, one screen pixel to one video pixel. The surrounding area is left black. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 18, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm running 10.4.11 on a mini G4 Bought ViewSonic VA2323WM 23 monitor. Looks great, except the VA2323 calls for 1920x1080 60 hz display and will only accept 800x600 and 1024x78 as alternatives. Everything else is out of range. Here are some more thoughts. This VA2323WM has two input ports, a VGA and a DVI-D. You'll get a slightly crisper display using the DVI-D port, but the VGA port also works, and these two will have DIFFERENT choices of resolution/refresh combinations. You may want to try a different cable and see if the other port gives you what you want. The native 1920x1080 resolution is a 16x9 aspect ratio. Other combinations with the same ratio are 1600x900, 1366x768, 1280x720, and 1024x576. These are all uncommon combinations when the G4 Mini was current, so any of these may be a problem, and the 1920x1080 is definitely a problem unless you can live with the black stripes on the edges, which is what I do on my HDTV at the identical 1920x1080 on an identical G4 Mini w/10.4.11. As I said, Leopard has DIFFERENT sets, and these are different for both the DVI port and the VGA port, so that means there are at least 4 different possibilities: Tiger/DVI, Tiger/VGA, Leopard/DVI, and Leopard/VGA. You might want to see what's offered in all four combinations. I'd zap the PRAM when changing between any of these just to get back to a default state on the monitor resolution that otherwise would be taken from the stored PRAM value (if available for the alternate System or video port). One final option is using adapters and an old Mac video cable (the original Mac type with two rows of pins, different from either a VGA or DVI). For some reason, if you use an old Mac video cable with adapters on both ends, you get an even different set of resolution/ refresh combinations offered. I have no idea why this type of kludge using an antiquated cable with adapters can change the choices, but it does. This opens the possibility that other combinations of cables and adapters might change the offerings of resolution/refresh pairings. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
