Re: Downclock Powermac G4 mdd

[Matevž Markovič]

 Thank you for your answers! Well, as far as hardware way is concerned, I
will not take that route. I would risk too much. The fan was already
replaced when I bought
the computer - silenter and more powerful, that is what the one I bought it
from told me, but still too loud in my opinion. Also altering the pin
configuration is not something I am prepared to do.

I will consider once again putting one cpu down and enabling nap mode...
Thank you for your answers.

With regards,
 Matevž Markovič

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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

[Ted Treen]

From: John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 6:33:08
Subject: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work.
  No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not the mac
 face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't have a
 fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.

Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.

Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)
that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a
? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ...
perhaps?

-irrational john



Irrational John is perfectly rational - and correct.  That is indeed what this 
means. The chime tells you its initial hardware test has deemed all to be OK, 
and the folder with the ? means it can't find a file system from which to boot.

The chime by the way, doesn't mean it's checked for the presence of a hard disk.

Ted

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Re: Confirm your subscription

[Michael Hunter]

Hello Chuck

I believe you sent your message to the wrong group. According to the
subscription confirmation link in your message, you are trying to subscribe
to the Leopard Group.

The subscription link should work by just clicking on it. According to the
time that the confirmation request was sent to you, it may be that the link
has expired, in which case you will have to request a new subscription link.

It is a no-no to request subscription help through any mailing lists. It is
not proper netiquette. Problems with un(subscribe) requests should go to the
admin address or the list owner. Therefore, if you require further help to
subscribe to the correct list, I suggest that you go to the Lowend Mac's
Leopard Group page http://lowendmac.com/lists/leopard.html. Scroll to the
bottom of the page and click on the ListMom link which will enable you to
send an email to the List Owner.

Kind regards

Michael


On 26 August 2010 05:17, cad c...@gamewood.net wrote:

 On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:42 PM, nore...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 We have received a request for this email address to join the Leopard
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 This should take you directly to an email confirmation page. If it does
 not,

 But it doesn't 
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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

[Richard Gerome]

 Try holding down: the shift key and the P+R when you boot it up and see if this fixes it??? If not you might have to download the OS or do a clean and reinstall??? I used to run into this with my Clamshells once in a great while after running them for months on end, then one day that folder with ? shows up... I always did a clean and reinstall till one day I read about zapping the pram which is what the shift+P+R is about...From: John Martz zjo...@yahoo.comTo: g3-5-list@googlegroups.comSent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 6:33:08Subject: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello group, I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to
 see if it will work. No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face. Not the mac face. Any ideas. I am not too hep on this stuff. If it doesn't have a fatal problem or such I would like to get it up and running.Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a? I would guess might be an icon to indicate "no file system" ...perhaps?-irrational johnIrrational John is perfectly rational - and correct. That is indeed what this means. The chime tells you its initial hardware test has deemed all to be OK, and the folder with the ? means it can't find a file system from which to boot.The chime by the way, doesn't mean it's checked for the presence of a hard
 disk.Ted







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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Deiniol ap Deiniol]

On Aug 26, 4:48 am, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh. That could be a problem for you.
 You could always just use another browser, like Opera or Konqueror (I have a
 love/hate relationship with Safari. Don't ask.)
 Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
 architecture.

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Yersinia yersi...@verizon.net wrote:
  Illirik writes,

  Who uses Firefox?

 Well I used to use it all the time until about 9 months ago when it seemed to 
 go very unstable (I can't remember which version).  From memory it used to 
 quite often hang when I tried to shut it down, so I had to use 'Force Quit', 
 and also used to flag up an irritatingly twee message about having problems 
 restoring previous tabs when re-opened, even when opening after a clean 
 shutdown.  As I recall, if I clicked on restore anyway it used to manage 
 perfectly well, despite the faux angst, and restored my tabs without a 
 problem!
At the time a  Mac and Hackintosh-using friend recommended Camino, and
after a short learning curve I found it to be very stable (it has only
crashed a couple of times) and has a  very clean user interface and is
smooth running.
 The only issue is a strange one, related to eBay.  Occasionally if I
click on an item to view it, I get a message from eBay saying that
this listing has been restricted, either due to an issue relating to
French perfume trademarks, or to US restrictions on military-related
hardware (this is usually on listings for 2nd World War communications
receivers - go figure!).
Talking with my MacHack friend I mentioned this and he says he has
occasionally noticed this problem but it only occurs with Camino, and
having tried opening these 'blocked' listings in Firefox they open
quite normally.  He thinks that this is something in eBay, rather than
a fault in Camino.
But generally Camino is a great browser.
FWIW on the odd occasions I use Firefox, (mostly to use downloadHelper
for UTube videos), it seems stable and reliable these days, and on the
odd occasion when I have to use a Windoze machine it beats the crap
out of Internet Explorer, which I find clunky and nasty.
I have tried Safari but I can't get enthusiastic about it,

Dan. (sent from my trusty G4 iMac!)




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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Deiniol ap Deiniol]

On Aug 26, 4:48 am, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh. That could be a problem for you.
 You could always just use another browser, like Opera or Konqueror (I have a
 love/hate relationship with Safari. Don't ask.)
 Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
 architecture.

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Yersinia yersi...@verizon.net wrote:
  Illirik writes,

  Who uses Firefox?

 Well I used to use it all the time until about 9 months ago when it seemed to 
 go very unstable (I can't remember which version).  From memory it used to 
 quite often hang when I tried to shut it down, so I had to use 'Force Quit', 
 and also used to flag up an irritatingly twee message about having problems 
 restoring previous tabs when re-opened, even when opening after a clean 
 shutdown.  As I recall, if I clicked on restore anyway it used to manage 
 perfectly well, despite the faux angst, and restored my tabs without a 
 problem!
At the time a  Mac and Hackintosh-using friend recommended Camino, and
after a short learning curve I found it to be very stable (it has only
crashed a couple of times) and has a  very clean user interface and is
smooth running.
 The only issue is a strange one, related to eBay.  Occasionally if I
click on an item to view it, I get a message from eBay saying that
this listing has been restricted, either due to an issue relating to
French perfume trademarks, or to US restrictions on military-related
hardware (this is usually on listings for 2nd World War communications
receivers - go figure!).
Talking with my MacHack friend I mentioned this and he says he has
occasionally noticed this problem but it only occurs with Camino, and
having tried opening these 'blocked' listings in Firefox they open
quite normally.  He thinks that this is something in eBay, rather than
a fault in Camino.
But generally Camino is a great browser.
FWIW on the odd occasions I use Firefox, (mostly to use downloadHelper
for UTube videos), it seems stable and reliable these days, and on the
odd occasion when I have to use a Windoze machine it beats the crap
out of Internet Explorer, which I find clunky and nasty.
I have tried Safari but I can't get enthusiastic about it,

Dan. (sent from my trusty G4 iMac!)




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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Ralph Green]

On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:14 +1000, Illirik Smirnov wrote:
 Who uses Firefox?
 Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
 architecture.
Howdy,
  I do.  With noscript, it is the only browser really usable by people
who care about security.
Ralph

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Re: desperate help

[Dan]

At 7:31 AM -0600 8/24/2010, Nestamicky wrote:

The objective is to install 10.5 using .dmg.

The approach, as she just explained it to me: Put the HD that 10.5 
is being installed to inside the machine, having formatted and 
partitioned it; one for OS, the other for personal data. Boot off an 
HD with an OS-Tiger-and mount, this HD is connected to Firewire. 
Mount the dmg from the desktop of this HD and restore it using Disk 
utility to a partition in the HD inside the machine. Once that's 
done reboot using the mounted .dmg as the start up disk and then 
install to one of the partitions inside the machine.


The problem:

Dragging the .dmg to the source option in Disk Utility does not 
happen. It simply does not move, even if the .dmg has been mounted.


You could click on the Image button next to the source field.

If someone knows of a better way to do this install, please write it 
here as clear as possible, so I can just forward it to her. I've 
never done this before, and thought I'd ask here for her.


What a messy process.  But I guess if you have no DVD drive, and no 
other Mac to use in TDM, it might work -- assumin that the OS X 
installer/DVD is happy with being imaged onto a different medium like 
that (I've never tried it).


How 'bout using CCC to clone the dmg into the personal data 
partition, instead of Disk Utility?


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SATA Drives on PCI card will not mount in G5

[dc]

I've tried everything I can think of. I have a PM G5 with 2 SATA
drives in the upper and lower bays and 3 additional drives in a Sonnet
Jive 5 bracket; the drives are cabled to a SATA PCI controller card
with SIL3124 chip. I have also tried 2 different Seritek IV4 cards.
The drives will not mount, they never show up in Finder, System
Profiler of Disk Utility.
I know the drives (Seagate 7200.10 500GB) are good. I have put each
one into the lower drive bay where they load up just fine. They each
passed the SMART tests, have been partitioned with 1 partition and are
formatted HFS extended. I cloned the system onto one of them and it
boots up normally as long as it is in the lower bay with it's direct
connection to the motherboard. When I move the connection to the PCI
controller card it doesn't show up.
I know the cards are good. The Seritek cards have run before in this
G5 and in a MDD G4. The cards show up in System Profiler, the firmware
is updated and the drivers are installed.
It's not a power issue. The drives get warm so I assume they're
spinning. I even hooked one up to and external power supply to be sure
it was getting enough power.
The SeaTools utility only runs in Windows so it can't help me check
the drives.
Maybe there is something I can do through Open Firmware to mount the
drives?

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Re: seeking reviews of SmithMicro's Spring Cleaning

[Dan]

At 7:19 PM -0700 8/25/2010, ah...clem wrote:

what i want is an app that will help me find multiple copies of the same
file scattered in many folders and several HD.


File Buddy is rather nice, but a bit pricey.

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Mac Mini Power supply compatibility?

[Scott Birdwell]

 Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Aug 25 02:25PM -0700 ^
  
 I have a first generation Mac Mini 1.25ghz that I've been using for an 
 entertainment center. Problem is that I want to upgrade to a better 
 mini and the power adapter is in the wall and I don't want to take 
 the wall apart to get at it
  
 Q: which Mac Mini's are compatible with the first generation power 
 supply?
  
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
Jeff,
 I'm pretty certain all mini's produced through 2009 used the same power brick. 
 Beginning with this year's Aluminum Uni-body design, Apple has placed the PSU 
internally in the case.  Looks like you could buy a fairly modern mini and 
still be all-right.  BTW, I just bought one of the new ones for my business on 
Tuesday, and it's really nice!

Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine  Beer Supplies
sa...@defalcos.com
www.defalcos.com


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Re: Mac Mini Power supply compatibility?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Aug 26, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Scott Birdwell wrote:


Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Aug 25 02:25PM -0700 ^

I have a first generation Mac Mini 1.25ghz that I've been using  
for an

entertainment center. Problem is that I want to upgrade to a better
mini and the power adapter is in the wall and I don't want to take
the wall apart to get at it

Q: which Mac Mini's are compatible with the first generation power
supply?

Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

Jeff,
 I'm pretty certain all mini's produced through 2009 used the same  
power brick.  Beginning with this year's Aluminum Uni-body design,  
Apple has placed the PSU internally in the case.  Looks like you  
could buy a fairly modern mini and still be all-right.  BTW, I just  
bought one of the new ones for my business on Tuesday, and it's  
really nice!


Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine  Beer Supplies
sa...@defalcos.com
www.defalcos.com

Scott, The first generation Mac Mini's used an 85w power supply...  
the latter ones use a 110w power supply... looks like I need the  
110w and it will work all the way up to the current (not including  
it though) mac minis. Regardless of how I decide to go, the wall  
has me messing with it:-( Jeff


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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 18 Messages in 5 Topics

[Mary Russell]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.comwrote:

  I tried to start a new problem or line or such but couldn't.  Here is my
 question.
 Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will
 work.  No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not
 the mac face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't
 have a fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.
 Thanks for you feed back
 I apologize if this is a no list item.

 Robert Long

 1.  Startup can't find a working OS.  That's why the folder with a ?.

 2.  May not have a hard drive

   3.  May not have an OS on the hard drive.

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Need help with a disk problem

[John Ruschmeyer]

 

I have a PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM) which has been running under
10.4 for some time. Recently, though, I've noticed some disk-related
problems which I could use some help with.

 

The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like most
installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a program to
detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that point in the
install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or otherwise. I have
attempted to repeat this installation, even going so far as to download a
new copy of the update, with the same issue.

 

The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update.  Basically, the
progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating. I've allowed this to run
for hours with no further progress.

 

Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran the Onyx
utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART status of the
drive.

 

In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended fix of
booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and doing a Repair
Permissions. Although a lot of permissions were fixed, the problems
persisted with the next reboot. Interesting, it may be my imagination, but
it seemed to take Disk Utility a long time to identify my disk.

 

At this point, I'm starting to lean toward a failing hard disk (40 GB
Hitachi TravelStar), but I was wondering if anyone had any other advice or,
at least, pointers to an error log I could check (dmesg shows nothing
useful).

 

Thanks.

John

 

 

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Re: Need help with a disk problem

[Dan]

At 12:35 PM -0400 8/26/2010, John Ruschmeyer wrote:

PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM)


HD size?  free space?


running under 10.4 for some time.


10 point 4 point what?  Fully updated or ?

The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like 
most installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a 
program to detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that 
point in the install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or 
otherwise. I have attempted to repeat this installation, even going 
so far as to download a new copy of the update, with the same issue.


There are some installers floating around that include a bad version 
of that volume checking applet, that often crashes or hangs on ppc 
macs.  Check for crash logs.


The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update. 
Basically, the progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating. 
I've allowed this to run for hours with no further progress.


Could be HD.  But just as easily could be your network connection.

Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran 
the Onyx utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART 
status of the drive.


Ok.  What does Disk Utility show?

What else isn't working correctly?

In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended 
fix of booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and 
doing a Repair Permissions.


typically recommended by whom?  Certainly not on these LEM lists. 
We only recommend repairing permissions when you definately have a 
permission related error.  And that's very very very very very rare.


Nothing you've said in this message indicates a permissions problem. 
You seem to think you have a HD problem.  If that's the case, then 
repairing permissions could be very destructive!


Interesting, it may be my imagination, but it seemed to take Disk 
Utility a long time to identify my disk.


Take a look at your system log for errors.  Use Console.app to peruse it.

Run a  repair disk    (NOT permissions!)  pass using Disk Utility.

Make a good backup, just in case

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Re: Downclock Powermac G4 mdd

[gifutiger]

Greetings,

For an answer to all or most of your questions, see:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4_mirrored_drive_doors/noise_reduction/g4_ddr_noise_reduction.html

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca.

On Aug 24, 2:55 am, Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hello!

 I have a Powermac G4 dual (1.25 ghz), running under OS X Tiger.
 I use this computer as a test server with low traffic. Because no
 performance-demanding tasks are running on it, I want to decrease
 the temperature of both cpus and thus also reduce the noise of the fan, as
 it is way too high. (and the power consumption)

 I have heard of CHUD 3.5.2 and its option of enabling nap mode, but I am not
 willing to risk crashing the machine, because I have read that enabling nap
 on both cores will probably crash the computer and it also has other
 side-effects.

 Is it possible to manually reduce the speed of both cpus? (probably from
 Open Firmware). I would rather go with 2 x 1.0 Ghz (250mhz less per cpu).
 And if it is, how dangerous is that?

 Thank you for your answers!
                                                              Matevz Markovic

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Re: CCC image bootable?

[gifutiger]

Greetings

What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
it is a CLONE
I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
you use Apples Disk Utility,
If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca

On Aug 25, 8:35 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi all

 I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see 
 the option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
 Also can I restore a volume with it?

 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP

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Re: Essential utilities for G4 powermac

[gifutiger]

Greetings.



On Aug 25, 3:36 am, Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I would highly recommend  Applejack. But I think it can only be installed on
 the boot drive. Also ClamXav would not hurt - we live in dark times, and is
 getting darker, even for macs :)

I think Applejack can be installed on any and all installed Disks,
however you need to boot from that drive for it to work.


 Try searching sourceforge.net. And for the last resort, learn using
 OpenFirmware. It is very powerful and also extensible. The same goes for the
 Intel Macs - install rEFIt, along with the EFI shell, and learn how to use
 EFI shell as well.
 Try to find utilities which can be invoked from the OpenFirmware. Myself, I
 have never done that, but I am sure that it can be done and that such
 utilities exist.

The problem with modifying OpenFirmware is the all modifications
disappear when you reboot.


 As for the pure troubleshooting utilities, I would recommend Apple Hardware
 Test, or some other LiveCD which has those utilities preinstalled. Depending
 solely on your hdd and utilities on it can be dangerous.

 I hope I have been of little help.
                                                                  Matevž
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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote:

 Who uses Firefox?
 Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
 architecture.

I do. It's a backup and I need to use it for some work-related stuff that does 
not work with Safari (stupid Oracle BI stuff)
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Re: CCC image bootable?

[Doug McNutt]

At 10:45 -0700 8/26/10, gifutiger wrote:
What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
it is a CLONE
I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
you use Apples Disk Utility,
If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

In the ancient history of floppy disks and magnetic tapes an image was a bit 
for bit copy, the word being stolen from the concept of a photographic image 
which could never be modified.  How meanings change when Photoshop enters the 
scene.

But it's pretty clear that the OP was using the old definition of image rather 
than the stolen word, reduced to a file type - .img, common to Apple's 
distributions which are actually compressed data.

And clone has the same problems, especially when used for race horses.

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Re: Need help with a disk problem

[jruschme]

On Aug 26, 1:06 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 12:35 PM -0400 8/26/2010, John Ruschmeyer wrote:

 PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM)

 HD size?  free space?

40GB drive (shows up as 36.7GB), 9 GB free

 running under 10.4 for some time.

 10 point 4 point what?  Fully updated or ?

10.4.11... Up-to-date except for possibly recent Safari and Quicktime
updates.

 The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like
 most installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a
 program to detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that
 point in the install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or
 otherwise. I have attempted to repeat this installation, even going
 so far as to download a new copy of the update, with the same issue.

 There are some installers floating around that include a bad version
 of that volume checking applet, that often crashes or hangs on ppc
 macs.  Check for crash logs.

Will do...

 The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update.
 Basically, the progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating.
 I've allowed this to run for hours with no further progress.

 Could be HD.  But just as easily could be your network connection.

Network connection is otherwise good, so I'm disinclined to think
that's the issue.

 Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran
 the Onyx utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART
 status of the drive.

 Ok.  What does Disk Utility show?

Nothing obvious. Does Disk Utility show SMART status?

 What else isn't working correctly?

Nothing. It seems to be running fine otherwise.

 In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended
 fix of booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and
 doing a Repair Permissions.

 typically recommended by whom?  Certainly not on these LEM lists.
 We only recommend repairing permissions when you definately have a
 permission related error.  And that's very very very very very rare.

I'd have to go back and try to find the exact site, but it was the
suggested fix for what looked like the same Software Update hang.

 Nothing you've said in this message indicates a permissions problem.
 You seem to think you have a HD problem.  If that's the case, then
 repairing permissions could be very destructive!

 Interesting, it may be my imagination, but it seemed to take Disk
 Utility a long time to identify my disk.

 Take a look at your system log for errors.  Use Console.app to peruse it.

Good thought.. I forgot about that one.

 Run a  repair disk    (NOT permissions!)  pass using Disk Utility.

I actually did that at the same time as the permissions fix.

 Make a good backup, just in case

Also a good thought...

Thanks...
John

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Re: CCC image bootable?

[john CARMONNE]

On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:45 AM, gifutiger wrote:


Greetings

What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
it is a CLONE
I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
you use Apples Disk Utility,
If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca


Harry look a little harder under select a target New Disk Image .


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: CCC image bootable?

[john CARMONNE]

On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/2g646lf
Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC  
architecture.



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com  
wrote:

Hi all

I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is  
bootable I see the option as a read only image so can that image be  
booted?

Also can I restore a volume with it?



Well the link above clarified the image boot question but now the  
remaining question is how can I restore the image? I can't get Disk  
utility to do it. It keeps saying there's a problem. With helper file.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: Need help with a disk problem

[Gus]

Not sure on the laptops, but on the power macs one place to look for
your S.M.A.R.T. Status is under the apple menu, about this mac, more
info, the HARDWARE section, ATA, clicking the drive on the right side
of the window.  the S.M.A.R.T. status will be displayed there.

Good Luck

Gus.

On Aug 26, 11:35 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM) which has been running under
 10.4 for some time. Recently, though, I've noticed some disk-related
 problems which I could use some help with.

 The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like most
 installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a program to
 detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that point in the
 install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or otherwise. I have
 attempted to repeat this installation, even going so far as to download a
 new copy of the update, with the same issue.

 The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update.  Basically, the
 progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating. I've allowed this to run
 for hours with no further progress.

 Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran the Onyx
 utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART status of the
 drive.

 In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended fix of
 booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and doing a Repair
 Permissions. Although a lot of permissions were fixed, the problems
 persisted with the next reboot. Interesting, it may be my imagination, but
 it seemed to take Disk Utility a long time to identify my disk.

 At this point, I'm starting to lean toward a failing hard disk (40 GB
 Hitachi TravelStar), but I was wondering if anyone had any other advice or,
 at least, pointers to an error log I could check (dmesg shows nothing
 useful).

 Thanks.

 John

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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

[Gus]

The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it
goes out and checks for the system.  I would start to wonder if there
wasn't an audio issue  You can try reseting the pram and listing
for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that
if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones
for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you
hold it down and it cycles through each reset.

Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of??

Gus.





On Aug 26, 12:33 am, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work.
   No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not the mac
  face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't have a
  fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.

 Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.

 Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)
 that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a
 ? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ...
 perhaps?

 -irrational john

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Re: CCC image bootable?

[Gus]

When I replaced my boot drive with a larger one, I booted off the
original drive, and cloned over to the larger one.  There is a message
that comes up, if you have set it up right, that says that the copy
will be bootable..  Mine was.  After the drive swap I noticed no
difference in the operation of the system.  I have only used CCC once
so I am not as fluent as others on this list are with the program.
But I can see no reason why it wouldn't be able to make a bootable
backup, and you shouldn't have any trouble restoring it to the
original.  Sadly, the only way to be sure that everything works with
the hardware you have chosen, is to actually do it.

Best of luck.

Gus

On Aug 25, 10:35 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi all

 I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see 
 the option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
 Also can I restore a volume with it?

 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP

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Freeware Memory Tester?

[Eric Volker]

Does anyone know of a freeware RAM tester? I just added 2x256 DDR400  
sticks of RAM to my G5 from my scrap heap, and want to make sure the  
sticks are actually good. The G5 boots, but that's not a guarantee of  
stability. The machine is a dual G5 Powermac, if that makes a  
difference. I do not have a copy of the Apple Hardware Test..


Thanks,

Eric

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Re: Freeware Memory Tester?

[Jim Scott]

On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Eric Volker wrote:

 Does anyone know of a freeware RAM tester? I just added 2x256 DDR400 sticks 
 of RAM to my G5 from my scrap heap, and want to make sure the sticks are 
 actually good. The G5 boots, but that's not a guarantee of stability. The 
 machine is a dual G5 Powermac, if that makes a difference. I do not have a 
 copy of the Apple Hardware Test..
 

Find and download the free utility Applejack in the version that supports your 
OS. Make sure when you install Applejack that you click on the option box to 
install Memtest. Once installed, reboot, holding down the Command and S keys to 
enter single user mode. Then read carefully and enter the command to enter 
Memtest. IIRC, you have to type X and then hit Enter.

Memtest is probably the best RAM tester out there. You might want to start the 
test late in the evening and let it run all night to do a thorough job.

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Re: Need help with a disk problem

[jruschme]

Well, it turns out to be simpler than I thought...

Based on the advice I received, I started poking around with the
Console app and found the following:

2010-08-26 19:27:52.100 SoftwareUpdateCheck[626] -[NSCFString
substringFromIndex:] called with out-of-bounds index. For apps linked
on Tiger this will raise an exception. For earlier apps it will
produce this one-time warning and continue with existing behavior
(which is undefined).
2010-08-26 19:27:52.105 DiskManagementTool[627] *** Uncaught
exception: NSRangeException [NOTE: this exception originated in the
server.]
*** -[NSCFString substringFromIndex:]: Range or index out of bounds
Aug 26 19:27:57 Jacob crashdump[628]: DiskManagementTool crashed
Aug 26 19:27:57 Jacob crashdump[628]: crash report written to: /Users/
jruschme/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/DiskManagementTool.crash.log

It turns out that the problem by MacFUSE, specifcally the fact that I
was using the PogoPlug software.

All I had to do was stop PogoPlug and now everything is fine.

Thank you all...
John

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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Stephen Conrad]

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson 
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:


 On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote:

  Who uses Firefox?
  Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
  architecture.

 I do. It's a backup and I need to use it for some work-related stuff that
 does not work with Safari (stupid Oracle BI stuff)
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 I use Firefox, Safari and Camino.

I mostly use Safari and then Firefox. I have Camino for when Safari or
Firefox won't work. I have has iCab and Opera in the past.

iCab is fine for what it is and Opera, well Opera fubarred during the last
upgrade and I never could get it to work right again so I gave up on it.

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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Ashgrove]

I LOVED Firefox. It was my browser of choice for a number of years,
and still is on the Windows platform. But it became very unstable a
few months back, just like Dan says, and I have ended up a reluctant
lover of Safari 5. I NEVER liked Safari --it's bland, it's not as
pliable as Firefox, it has a certain smugness to it that I don't
particularly care for-- but Safari 5 has proven to be fast and stable,
and does not suck as much RAM as before --in fact, although I can't
prove it, I find it uses less RAM than Firefox.

Felix

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Re: Downclock Powermac G4 mdd

[Miguel Garcia Gell]

Hola! dale una mirada . *Hi! take a look *

Dual G4 MDD Owners enabling Nap mode to lower CPU
temperatureshttp://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/MDD_CHUD_feedback.html#storytop


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Matevž Markovič 
ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thank you for your answers! Well, as far as hardware way is concerned, I
 will not take that route. I would risk too much. The fan was already
 replaced when I bought
 the computer - silenter and more powerful, that is what the one I bought it
 from told me, but still too loud in my opinion. Also altering the pin
 configuration is not something I am prepared to do.

 I will consider once again putting one cpu down and enabling nap mode...
 Thank you for your answers.

 With regards,
  Matevž Markovič

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MDD Owner Guide on upgrading to Dual 1.42GHz CPU module

[Miguel Garcia Gell]

I want to share this with *The Group*...was interesting


*MDD Owner Guide on upgrading to Dual 1.42GHz CPU module in

*http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/jun04/062804.html

and also

Dual G4 MDD Owners enabling Nap mode to lower CPU
temperatureshttp://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/MDD_CHUD_feedback.html#storytop

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Re: Freeware Memory Tester?

[Miguel Garcia Gell]

Try this *CheckUp 2.5.2*the Trial Vers. can check the Memory Ram for
free. WARNING!!! *nice looking inside *
*http://www.app4mac.com/software/product_details.php?item_id=2*


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of a freeware RAM tester? I just added 2x256 DDR400 sticks
 of RAM to my G5 from my scrap heap, and want to make sure the sticks are
 actually good. The G5 boots, but that's not a guarantee of stability. The
 machine is a dual G5 Powermac, if that makes a difference. I do not have a
 copy of the Apple Hardware Test..

 Thanks,

 Eric

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Re: Writing on the wall...

[Kevin Barth]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who uses Firefox?


I do, most of the time.  Yes, it's slow, and especially in the last couple
of releases has had some stability issues. But Safari lacks some of the
plugins that I use on a day to day basis.  Hopefully that will change.

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FirstClass Client 9.126 shuts down when Screen sleeps

[Cliff Rediger]

miniG4 10.4.11
First Class client 9.126

For a long time I have not set the Energy Saver for sleep.
but obtained new monitor.
Now whenever the monitor sleeps FC shuts down.
kind of bothersome.
Tried various settings, i.e. computer sleep, hd sleep.
all same results.

Any work arounds known?

thank you
Cliff

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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

[Ted Treen]

Gus wrote:

The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it
goes out and checks for the system.  I would start to wonder if there
wasn't an audio issue  You can try reseting the pram and listing
for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that
if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones
for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you
hold it down and it cycles through each reset.

Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of??

Gus.

   


Resetting PRAM is a good idea.

The chime will have been muted IF the last owner/user set the Mac's 
sound volume to mute.


This also silences the system chime.

Resetting PRAM will turn volume setting back to default, then if there's 
still no chime, the cause lies elsewhere.


Ted

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