OT-ManIntel Group assistance
Hi Gang, Don't know about you, but if I want to get ignored, I post a note on the MacIntel group. The G-Group is always good to respond, so… can someone perhaps tell me who the List nanny is for the MacIntel group and I can reach them to find out why I never get a response and my posts, well, don't post? If you'll permit a one-generation-off emergency query, I can ask a quick question that I posted on the MacIntel last note that got subsequently ignored: Is a SATA III hard drive compatible with a 2006 (non-unibody) 17 Macbook Pro? Many thanks in advance, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Joining the Intel Group
Hi all, Hopefully not too off-topic: where does one go to join the Intel-based grooup? Not readily apparent. Many thanks, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Late 2005 G5 - what to expect n start-up concerns?
Greetings all, I have a late 2005 G5 (dual-core, 2.3GHz model). It has been very nice to me these last 3+ years. ABout 3 weeks ago, I went through a couple days where the only way I could start it out of a cold boot (1st thing in the morning) was to reset the SMU (reset the board), then zap the PRAM upon successful launch. Did this maybe three times. I then replaced the CMOS battery with a new 2032 battery, reset the SMU one more time, and the unit booted fine. This seemed to have done the trick and for about 8 days, I had start-up bliss as I had come to expect from it. Tonight I turned it on (first time since Monday night), and it was back to its old tricks, and I had to reset the SMU again to get it started (it's running now). Besides the possibility that this brand new battery is not as fresh as it should be, what other concerns might this habit be indicative of? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Regards, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
SCSI issue has arisen
Greetings all, I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane. I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320 drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower. Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3). Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would sell adapters would be great as well. Many thanks for any thoughts, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SCSI issue has arisen
Thank you, gentlemen, for responding. You're info is helping my memory. Len, I followed yor lead and found a good 80-68-50 SCA adapter on eBay for under $4 shipped, so hurrah! Thank you. Bill, I believe our card at school was indeed an Atto - the only one Digidesign approved for ProTools at that time, iirc. Will check Trish's Hardware Hell; never heard of it :-) Thanks again, Dana On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:56:38 PM UTC-5, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I need some help remembering - a trip down memory lane. I find myself in an unplanned need to access six IBM SCSI-Ultra 320 drives (with SCA interface, so I know an adapter from 68-pin cable to SCA is most likely involved). I seem to recall that I had such a card from either Adaptec or ATTO (or Initio) that addressed such a situation and I ran it off of a beige G3 tower. Does any of that bring up like memories for you? What I needed help in is remembering what cards worked with Macs; regarding legacy, I can go as far back as a beige G3 (desktop) running OS 9, or a Quicksilver running OS X (10.4, or earlier, I have 10.1, 10.2, 10.3). Any remembrances appreciated. Any stores you may know of that would sell adapters would be great as well. Many thanks for any thoughts, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SCSI issue has arisen
Hi Bill, I just snagged this very card for a good price from eBay, Apple ROMMed - I cannot remember if I need a driver/extension for this or not. Do you know? ( plan on using OS 9.2.2 unless otherwise determined). Thanks, Dana On Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:55:10 PM UTC-5, billycarmacs wrote: On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:56 PM, DLC wrote: Many thanks for any thoughts, Regards, Dana I believe I have this one in my Yikes! running Tiger IIRC: ATTO ExpressPCI PSC SCSI Controller Card Features: Model # 0042-PCBX-002 Working Pull from a Power Mac G3 External 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector Internal 68-pin Ultra Wide SCSI connector Internal 50-pin Standard SCSI connector Got it off ebay years ago. Also dealt with MC Price Breakers to help solve all my SCSI problems, but I can no longer find them on the net. Maybe out of business by now? Been years. Best of luck. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Thank you for the response. WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8) Thanks! Dana On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:56:26 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Hi Andreas, Thank you for the information and response. Very helpful. Where can I obtain such a disc? Most sites that tout a free download isn't such at all (membership fee with no guarantee that I'll get what I need), or outright bogus. Any concrete directions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dana On Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:53:57 AM UTC-4, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012 From:DLC dlcat...@gmail.com javascript: To: G-Group g3-5...@googlegroups.com javascript: Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc from which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If you don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything on the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario. But this is just what I heard, not what I know. The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that sounds reasonable to me… For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs. You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple never officially made a download available for this. Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be Abandonware though. The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will have to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will not work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 970fx processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 970MP which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s. The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors. Good luck! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Repair - Next step?
Hello MJoeYoung, Thank you for the help and link for prospective parts. Here is what I did recently: replaced the PRAM, swapped the CPUs (A to B, and vs. a vs.) made sure the CPUs were well-seated. Of course, having to take apart the G5 (not as bad a project as I thought), that gave me a chance to reseat everything. I also inspected the board - no noticeably bad elements, though I suspect the ROM chip may have gotten fried (I have no actual evidence to this effect, just a gut feeling based on the way the unit boots up. Thank you for the link. The motherboard is less in $$ than anticipated, so, I need to decide to invest a little in the hopes that it offers the cure, or simply give up and part out the unit. Thank you again for all your contributions on this project. Dana On Sep 25, 11:40 am, mjoeyoung mjoeyo...@gmail.com wrote: I want to confirm that you switched CPUs (A in B slot and B in A slot) and that they were both seated properly when you turned the computer on. If CPU A is bad and CPU B is good putting CPU B in the A spot and CPU A in the B spot should allow the computer to boot. Both CPUs (even if one is bad) need to be installed for the computer to work. When I was fixing my problem I had both issues (unseated and only one installed). One of the earlier G5s was able to run with only one CPU installed in a 2 CPU system so you could try that, but I think it was an earlier model to yours. Have you replaced the battery? That can be the cause of various issues. I do not know of any motherboard checks except for visual inspection of bad capacitors. If the computer is making sounds and the fans eventually go into wind tunnel mode I would think the power supply is probably okay. The chance that BOTH processors went bad at the same time seems slim. So, I would guess logic board. I fixed mine on a whim just to see if it was possible before getting rid of it. These computers are so cheap now that it is almost not worth the time/effort to repair them. This is the storehttp://www.electronicscafe.com/ I purchased my parts from. They also sell on ebay. They have a motherboard that might work for about $17 and a pair of cpus for $25. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Repair - Next step?
Thank you for the response, MJoe. I located the correct allen wrench and was able to do as you indicated. Turns out there are eight of the screws (4 per CPU) though the instructions referred to only 6, but all came apart with surprising ease once the CPUs came off (and they were pretty easy too once the screws were out of the way. Found a dislodged case seam screw once the motherboard came off. I was hoping that this may have been the issue all along (a rogue screw inadvertently jumper-ing a couple of chips - this did happen to me on a B+W G3 once before), but, once all put back together, alas, the unit was none the better, eliciting the same start-up issues. So, I am stuck with determining if it is a motherboard issue (bad ROM chip as another suggested) or bad CPUs - any tests I can do? (Fabian, Google lost your note to me where you copied some diagnostics from your Apple SSM for me - can you resend?) Thank you again, Dana On Sep 23, 11:03 am, mjoeyoung mjoeyo...@gmail.com wrote: I just checked my G5. It needs a Torx T10 to loosen the allen-wrench type screws. I'm pretty sure there is no need to touch any of the other screws. It only takes a little effort to pull out the CPU once the bolts are loosened. If it ends up being a CPU problem I can advise further. Good luck, and watch out for the cooling fins! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Repair - Next step?
Greetings all, weighing in after some time. My thanks again for the more folks who posted providing valuable advice. MJoe Young, great pictures re: the initial take-apart - this will prove helpful for me when I attempt to re-seat the logic board, which is one of the service source manual's suggestions, as Fabian pointed out in his equally helpful note. Thank you all again - I shal attempt to keep you apprised as the project progresses (hopefully, that is - let's hope it doesn't devolve!). Regards, Dana On Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I'd like to seek advice for those who've tread down the path I need to take. A while back I donated a G5 tower (June 2004 model, 1.8GHz DP w/ PCI slots) to a small private school. Recently I was told by the teacher that it just stopped working, so I took it in and ascertained that the video card was the most likely culprit (issue= boot up chime, then nothing-nothing fires up, except the fans going full tilt if you wait a couple minutes, then you need to do a hard shutdown). Apparently not, as a replacement card (known good) and a 2nd used one I had failed to remedy the situation. Re-seating RAM, pulling 3rd party cards, new PRAM battery, returning unit to OEM status, and resetting the board all proved fruitless. So, I'm inquiring from those in the know what the next step is. Alas, all keystroke related remedies (resetting PRAM, NVRAM, single user and verbose mode, C key for optical, etc.) are not an option - the boot-up mode does not get far enough in to query the peripherals or seek an OS. I fear it may be bad processor or logic board, but maybe there's a way to verify or get around? Many thanks for any input. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Repair - Next step?
Thanks to all who responded. To continue in the hopes of gleaning more wisdom, here are some clarifications: 1) the computer used a standard VGA-based 17 monitor, though I did try a spare 15 ADC Apple display to see if it was a port-specific problem on the video card (no go). 2) As mentioned, I cannot reset the PRAM or NVRAM, as the boot sequence will not go far enough to query the keyboard or other peripherals (like the optical drive). 3) I did swap out the HD and put back in the known-good Apple OEM HD, again no luck, but I can re-attempt with a different HD. My sad suspicion is the motherboard (first) or processor board, but want to exhaust all options before I begin parting out the good components. Many thanks again, Dana On Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I'd like to seek advice for those who've tread down the path I need to take. A while back I donated a G5 tower (June 2004 model, 1.8GHz DP w/ PCI slots) to a small private school. Recently I was told by the teacher that it just stopped working, so I took it in and ascertained that the video card was the most likely culprit (issue= boot up chime, then nothing-nothing fires up, except the fans going full tilt if you wait a couple minutes, then you need to do a hard shutdown). Apparently not, as a replacement card (known good) and a 2nd used one I had failed to remedy the situation. Re-seating RAM, pulling 3rd party cards, new PRAM battery, returning unit to OEM status, and resetting the board all proved fruitless. So, I'm inquiring from those in the know what the next step is. Alas, all keystroke related remedies (resetting PRAM, NVRAM, single user and verbose mode, C key for optical, etc.) are not an option - the boot-up mode does not get far enough in to query the peripherals or seek an OS. I fear it may be bad processor or logic board, but maybe there's a way to verify or get around? Many thanks for any input. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Repair - Next step?
Further info for diagnostic purposes. I ran the unit without the metal cover on (but left the lucite flow panel in place). I can manipulate the on - off of the fans by removing the lucite panel (and replacing it) while the unit is on - this I can do within a 2' window - after that the fans come on full tilt, leaving me with a hard shutdown as an only option for turning them off. Hope this helps. Thanks, Dana On Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I'd like to seek advice for those who've tread down the path I need to take. A while back I donated a G5 tower (June 2004 model, 1.8GHz DP w/ PCI slots) to a small private school. Recently I was told by the teacher that it just stopped working, so I took it in and ascertained that the video card was the most likely culprit (issue= boot up chime, then nothing-nothing fires up, except the fans going full tilt if you wait a couple minutes, then you need to do a hard shutdown). Apparently not, as a replacement card (known good) and a 2nd used one I had failed to remedy the situation. Re-seating RAM, pulling 3rd party cards, new PRAM battery, returning unit to OEM status, and resetting the board all proved fruitless. So, I'm inquiring from those in the know what the next step is. Alas, all keystroke related remedies (resetting PRAM, NVRAM, single user and verbose mode, C key for optical, etc.) are not an option - the boot-up mode does not get far enough in to query the peripherals or seek an OS. I fear it may be bad processor or logic board, but maybe there's a way to verify or get around? Many thanks for any input. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Repair - Next step?
Greetings all, I'd like to seek advice for those who've tread down the path I need to take. A while back I donated a G5 tower (June 2004 model, 1.8GHz DP w/ PCI slots) to a small private school. Recently I was told by the teacher that it just stopped working, so I took it in and ascertained that the video card was the most likely culprit (issue= boot up chime, then nothing-nothing fires up, except the fans going full tilt if you wait a couple minutes, then you need to do a hard shutdown). Apparently not, as a replacement card (known good) and a 2nd used one I had failed to remedy the situation. Re-seating RAM, pulling 3rd party cards, new PRAM battery, returning unit to OEM status, and resetting the board all proved fruitless. So, I'm inquiring from those in the know what the next step is. Alas, all keystroke related remedies (resetting PRAM, NVRAM, single user and verbose mode, C key for optical, etc.) are not an option - the boot-up mode does not get far enough in to query the peripherals or seek an OS. I fear it may be bad processor or logic board, but maybe there's a way to verify or get around? Many thanks for any input. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Bit Off-topic: iPad recommends
Greetings all, This is a bit off-topic (though I do sync my iPad to my G5, so maybe a once-removed exception can be invoked). I have an iPad 2, courtesy of work-related research, and am curious if there are any recommended user groups that this fine consortium of colleagues have discovered and would recommend. My thanks in advance. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Need 2 things via PB G4 and OS Lion directory help
Greetings all, I have a Powerbook G4 connected to an Intel iMac via Target Disk mode, with the intent of copying files to the iMac in preparation for a nuke and pave for the G4 Powerbook (which it desperately needs at this point, as it is exhibiting serious OS issues, hence why the owner gave it to me to help them out). The iMac is running Lion (10.7) and the G4 is running leopard (10.5.8). Here are my questions: 1) in Lion, how do I make the folder window (when opened in List view) indicate at the bottom of the window the no. of items currently in the folder (as it does in Leopard and snow Leopard)? Every window in 10.5, when opened, displays information re; the no. of items in the folder, and the amount of disk space still available - I want to replicate that in Lion. 2) probably more important, as i am copying all these files from the G4 to the iMac (wedding photos, darn it, the ONLY copies, darn x 2!, so I gotta get them off!), sometimes the copying hangs on a (I suspect) corrupted file, and I can't get the iMac to give up trying (the little grey X in the copy progress bar supposedly used to stop copying is thoroughly useless) - currently I have no choice but to relaunch the Finder, which in turn hangs to relaunch until I either unplug the FW cable to the G4, or shut down altogether and relaunch, which I know is NOT the best option. Any way to make the iMac give up copying harmlessly? Any thoughts on either would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Entourage in MS 2008 Question
Greetings all, I use Entourage in MS 2008 for my email client needs, this on a PMac G5 running 10.5.8. Someone recently tried to send me a .exe driver for my WIn laptop. Entourage states it is blocking this potentially unsafe attachment and indeed does not show it as an attachment when I open the email. This has happened before to me, and begs the question: how do I tell Entourage to unblock it? or not to be preemptive re: attachments altogether. I could not find a control element to turn this feature off. Any help appreciated, thank you. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Am chiming in after a bit of time for the holidays. Well, no luck; rebuilt permissions, swapped out slot, re-seated the card itself AND the host card as well. The make is probably some 3rd-party manufacturer that makes cards for everyone (it did come from China, home of about 99.5% of these little doohickies). Beyond that all I know is that it is a Broadcom BCM94312MCG mini-PCI-E wireless card. I don'yt know what I should know beyond that. Most disconcerting is to have a history of working Broadcom cards, with everyone under the sun saying that only Broadcom is recognized as an Airport card; apparently not all Broadcoms are created equal. Out of curiosity, what make is yours (since it does work?) Thanks, Dana On Nov 22, 10:38 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:27 PM, DLC wrote: Hi John, Thanks for sharing - I do not get any recognition like that :-( -Dana Did you repair permissions. Can you give the make and model of the card? Also you may try a different slot. I did have to do that as I remember:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wireless-Card-/170732707129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27c0765d39#ht_1376wt_1350 Thanks again, Dana On Nov 22, 9:52 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Thank you Kris. This gives me some directions to look into - I'll repost when I have some of this needed info. for you. Many thanks, Dana On Nov 27, 6:41 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I'm almost certain that most all Broadcom cards can work, but a few are problematic. I've been trying to help, but you never post the necessary information. You say it doesn't work and that's about it. We know the card, but not any of the pertinent information. The most important things for troubleshooting a Broadcom wifi card would be: 1)VID PID # of the Broadcom wifi card itself. A specific Broadcom chipset can normally be determined from these ID #'s, which tells you which Braodcom kext is required. These ID's can be determined several ways. Sometimes they're shown in System Profiler. The Broadcom VID # is 0x14e4, and the PID is the important # you're looking for. In System Profiler is should be shown under NetworkAirport Card, or perhaps under PCI Cards. If it's not shown in System Profiler, you can use an application DPCIManager available here. The app is within the Build folder, use the specific version you need: http://rapidshare.com/files/380454157/DPCIManager_0.3.zip 2)Software version and configuration. This would be OS X version, and whether or not the correct kexts are currently loaded (meaning they are functional within OS X). The necessary kexts for wifi connection are IONetworkingFamily.kext, IO80211Family.kext, and a specific Broadcom kext that may vary with the exact hardware of the card itself. ALL THREE of these kexts need to be loaded to have wifi functionality. To see which kexts are loaded you can look in System Profiler under Extensions, or better you can run the command kextstat in Terminal, which will definitely show ALL kexts loaded, whereas System Profiler is known to miss some every so often. 3)Status of the Network System Preferences pane, and whether or not an Airport port is recognized within Network System Preferences. So far, I don't remember seeing any of this necessary information for you card? I still suspect your card will work, but that you need to troubleshoot a little more intensively. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Thank you for doing some sniffing for me. I checked this link. No, that is the card used in the earlier G5s - have used several of them. I discovered they would not work in the dual core/quad core-PCI-E G5s when I first appropriated this machine (needs that special Wifi/ Bluetooth Combo card made for this series, awfully rare to find and prohibitive in $$). Too bad! Sure would make my task easier! Dana On Nov 27, 6:10 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wirel... Thanks again, Dana I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-... John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What went wrong?
Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Thanks for sharing - I do not get any recognition like that :-( -Dana On Nov 22, 10:12 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:52 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana Dana I have one of those cards in my PPC G5 dual 2.7 and for me it was plug and play no drivers needed:-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36728487/AIRPORT.png John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Power Mac Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Hello John, I checked out this option and asked the seller about it; very kind person, verified it's a RAlink Chipset. Have you had good success with it? Does it show up as an Airport card out of the box? Thanks, Dana On Oct 16, 5:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:13 PM, DLC wrote: Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airpo... John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Hi Kris,
Thank you for the information provided from this response. Looks like
I still have some homework to do. Would you know of a card that you
recommend
out of the box-working? Do you know if all of these mini PCI-Es are
the same form factor?
Thanks again,
Dana
On Oct 15, 3:36 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
On Oct 15, 2011, at 12:01 PM, DLC wrote:
I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such
the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-E
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid...
Would these work at all?
You can use one of these Mini PCIe cards if you have a Mini PCIe to
PCIe adapter card. This kind is nice:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130501831715
This Mini PCIe adapter combo is probably best and cheapest
alternative. You could use any PCIe only card, or USB dongle also.
You should get a modern 802.11n card with a Broadcom or Atheros chipset.
Here's a list of nice, newer cards that are Airport compatible and
802.11n. You can't utilize AirDrop on a PPC Mac, it's Lion only, but
these are still the better fastest cards. Older 802.11n cards are only
150mbps, newer ones are dual-frequency 300mbps. You might possible
have to tweak the info.plist file within your
IO80211Family.kextContentsPlugIns{appropriate plugin} folder. Real
Apple cards should work out of the box. There's a script to modify the
info.plist for Broadcom cards called bcm43xx_enabler.sh which you'd
open Terminal and type sudo and drag drop the script, hit Return,
and follow instructions. This would enable all Broadcom chipset cards
as Apple Airport.
The cards that support AirDrop:
Broadcom BCM94322MC - are supported by default.
Broadcom BCM94322HM8L - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5BXB112 - are supported by default. (11A430e is from.)
Atheros AR5BXB92 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5BHB92 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5B93 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5B95 - AirPortAtheros40.kext If you let in will add DevID
= 0x002b.
Atheros AR5BXB72 - AirPortAtheros40.kext If you let in will add
DevID = 0x0024.
Cards that do not support AirDrop:
Broadcom BCM94321MC
Broadcom BCM94312MCG
Broadcom BCM94312MCAG
Broadcom BCM94311MCG
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Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Hi Peter, Thank you for the advice, both from you and Kris. I believe i still have some homework to do. Do you have a specific brand, unit that you recommend? Are all PCI-E mini cards that same size/form factor? Thanks again, Dana On Oct 15, 1:27 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I need some advice: I now have a PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3GHz unit (late 2005), one of the last models, and that uses the PCI-E architecture. I need to make it wireless for access to our home network printing. However, I have come to find out that the special Airport Extreme/ Bluetooth Combo cards that these units used are scarcer then hen's teeth and usually include an extremely prohibitive price to boot (maybe THAT's what the extreme is supposed to be about!). I am looking at options. Any PCI-E adapter cards you would recommend? USB dongles? I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-E http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid... Would these work at all? Forget buying an Airport card ... just get a Broadcom 4322 (AirDrop-compatible). Sometimes called a 94322. About $15, shipped, from Hong Kong. Dell and others used Broadcom, as did Apple. My Broadcom 94322 looks like this to MacOS 10.7.1 on my Shuttle H67 Hackintosh: Interfaces: en1: Card Type: Third-Party Wireless Card MAC Address: 00:21:00:6b:a1:f3 Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140 AirDrop: Supported Current Network Information: PHY Mode: 802.11g BSSID: 00:50:18:4f:51:f8 Network Type: Infrastructure Security: WPA Personal Signal / Noise: -80 dBm / -84 dBm Transmit Rate: 2 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller= 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana On Oct 15, 1:01 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I need some advice: I now have a PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3GHz unit (late 2005), one of the last models, and that uses the PCI-E architecture. I need to make it wireless for access to our home network printing. However, I have come to find out that the special Airport Extreme/ Bluetooth Combo cards that these units used are scarcer then hen's teeth and usually include an extremely prohibitive price to boot (maybe THAT's what the extreme is supposed to be about!). I am looking at options. Any PCI-E adapter cards you would recommend? USB dongles? I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-Ehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid... Would these work at all? Any advice appreciated. Thank you, and best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you, John. Does it work well? I am guessing it uses Broadcom chipset? Thank you, Dana On Oct 16, 5:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:13 PM, DLC wrote: Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airpo... John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you, Peter! Much information (not more than I wanted, just more than expected! :-) I appreciate the effort and time to type it all up; it is indeed very helpful. Out of curiosity, the intended AirPort slot in my G5/PCI-E dual core: is that really a mini-PCI-E slot? Thanks again, Dana On Oct 16, 8:02 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Thank you for the advice, both from you and Kris. I believe i still have some homework to do. Do you have a specific brand, unit that you recommend? Are all PCI-E mini cards that same size/form factor? There are two mini-PCI-e form factors, and some Asian sellers sell both, while others sell adapters from short to long. The PCI-e adapters (fits in a PCI-e 1x slot) are all the same size, and some have provisions for one, two or three antennas. The actual PCI-e WiFi cards can be made by many manufacturers. Those which use a Broadcom chip set are generally out-of-the-box Airport Extreme-compatible. Broadcom cards are generally designed for one or two antenna connections, NOT for three antenna connections. To complicate matters, there are also the Broadcom mini-PCI cards, which fit in a mini-PCI to PCI adapter. These are also Airport Extreme-compatible. Only the latest, the Broadcom 4322 or 94322 are AirDrop-compatible, although the others are Airport Extreme-compatible. I use Broadcom mini-PCI/mini-PCI to PCI in my Hacks which have a free PCI slot; Broadcom mini-PCI-e/mini-PCIe to PCI-e in my Hacks which have a free PCI-e 1x slot; and Broadcom mini-PCIe in my Hacks which have a free mini-PCI-e slot. I generally use one antenna even though the Broadcom cards support two antennas. On my most recent Hack, a Shuttle SH67 (Intel H67 chip set), I have used a Broadcom 4322/94322 with two antennas. On this machine, the motherboard has a mini PCI-e slot which is available for installation of a WiFi card thereby leaving the PCI-e 16x and PCI-e 1x slots available for other uses. I think the following correlation is correct: Broadcom 4313 = mini-PCI, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4318 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4322 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, and does support AirDrop. Other than the mini-PCI cards, which come in only one form factor, the mini-PCI-e cards come in short and long form factors. Sometimes the mini-PCI-e adapters support both form factors, but more commonly the adapter has the stand-offs soldered onto the board. In this case it may be best to buy an adapter for a long card and then buy a long card or a short card plus a short-to-long adapter. All of this stuff is sold for very low $$$ on eBay by Hong Kong sellers, which usually ship immediately and by air, getting from HK to the West Coast in as little as five days, but more usually in about ten days. In all my dealings with those sellers, I have had only one DOA card, and it was simply the wrong card, not the one I had ordered, and the seller agreed to immediately ship the correct card. And, yes, several of my Hacks also are dual-booted with Windows 7, and these Broadcom cards are fully functional, not the half-a$$ed Windows Edition cards which won't work on any but a specified version of Win. Once you install the card under MacOS X, it should be immediately recognized by the system. Once you boot Windows, you will most likely have to go into the screen where maintenance is applied. Windows will recognize the card as being new and will download the Broadcom driver from whichever site hosts it. I also, on occasion, use USB WiFi dongles, and there are some good ones out there which have full MacOS X support. Rosewill RNX-N150UBE is my current choice, and it 802.11b/g/n-compatible and has 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6 drivers, and the 10.6 driver works perfectly on Lion. Probably more than you ever wanted to know about Mac networking on-the-cheap. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
And a thank you here also. So, if I bought this card mentioned in my query (you indicate it is a standard size), would I then by something like this? http://www.amazon.com/MiniPCI-E-to-PCI-E-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003MMY14Y/ref=pd_cp_e_1 And then I would be good to go? Thank you again, Dana On Oct 16, 8:06 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? Yes, and Snow Leopard and Lion. It is accepted by MacOS X as a third party Airport Extreme card. 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? Can't answer as I usually run Hacks, not Macks. 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? THAT card is a standard sized card. Most of the new ones are short. And, the card you identified is a Broadcom 94322, also called a 4322, and is AirDrop compatible (on Lion). The 94322/4322 is also made in a short card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Greetings all, I need some advice: I now have a PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3GHz unit (late 2005), one of the last models, and that uses the PCI-E architecture. I need to make it wireless for access to our home network printing. However, I have come to find out that the special Airport Extreme/ Bluetooth Combo cards that these units used are scarcer then hen's teeth and usually include an extremely prohibitive price to boot (maybe THAT's what the extreme is supposed to be about!). I am looking at options. Any PCI-E adapter cards you would recommend? USB dongles? I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-E http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1252 Would these work at all? Any advice appreciated. Thank you, and best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Odd QuickSilver Dual boot behavior
Greetings all, Am curious if anyone else has had this issue: QuickSilver, Logic Board Rev. 2002, powered via an OWC 1.5GHz (single CPU) Mercury, rev. 2 (fully compatible w/ OS 9.2.1 and 9.2.2, according to their manual), - running OS 10.5.8 (wonderfully, I might add) on one HD, and a successfully installed OS 9.2.2 from a universal-install CD. An ATI Radeon 32Mb (7500, I believe) is the video card. The Firmware version on this unit is 4.3.3 If I boot into OS 9 straight (normal), I will not get a screen to show (remains black) - lack of HD activity makes me suspect that no booting is engaged either. IF, however, I start up, hold left-shift key, and then choose OS 9 from the OS selection panel that appears, the unit boots into OS 9 and operates fine. Booting into OS X is fine no matter what. Any explanations handy? Thanks for listening, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GeForce Ti Question
Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Couple of G4 dig. Audio Issues
Greetings all, I hope these are a couple of easy issues. I gave a G4 Dig. Audio to a mac newbie, and he has been having a couple of questions. Here is a quote from his latest response: Hey, Thanks for the reply and happy new year as well. I looked into the locking issue. I found that if you press option+apple+q it will lock the screen, but i noticed that it will close all aplications. Is there a way to change that and to change the keyboard buttons pressed to lock screen? and the videos are all youtube and they are loaded on the youtube site from firefox. During and after buffering video seems to jump around still. Thanks (end quote) Item 1 - Apparently, he wants to replicate the lock screen action found on Windows (I believe it is the MS key plus l - I really am not sure what that does except maybe do a quick screen blank which requires password entry upon wakeup) - short of logging out or invoking the screen saver, I was not aware of such an action on OS X (his unit is on 10.4.11). His report on command-option-q is above, but I cannot replicate it on my Tiger iBook. Any thoughts? Item 2 - The popular You Tube stuttering issue - again, he is using Fire Fox (latest flavor I presume) in OS 10.4.11 on a 733MHz Dig. Audio, which is equipped w/ 1.5 Gb RAM and a 64 Mb NVidia TwinView video card pulled from a 800MHz DP QuickSilver. I seem to remember some 3rd party add-ons for FF that addressed helping this issue. Any thoughts on this? (BTW, I did install Perian on the unit before giving it to him). Thank you for any thoughts, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help - what does this mean?
Greetings all, I little help in discerning a splash page on boot-up I've not seen before. I gave my daughter an upgraded G4 Quicksilver (1.5GHz single CPU, running leopard). It has an ATI Radeon card in it, a rather nice one iirc, 9500, w/ 256Mb RAM. She sent me a cell phone photo of a picture she now gets on boot-up, a little picture of the ATI card (w/ the ATI logo to its right) with the Mac not proceeding with the boot-up process. This is the initial page one sees at startup, so I suspect something nefarious with the card. Any one ever get this, and if so, what does it mean? Thank you, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quick Silver issue
Hello gang, Happy to post a query that is not list-nanny issue related :-) I recently swapped for a G4 QuickSilver (800MHz DP/1.5Gb RAM, stock HD and video-NVidia Twinview). I installed a new copy of Tiger on the HD, upped it to 10.4.11 and off I went - it operates perfectly fine except for one issue: it will not shut down. When asked to shut down - either via the menu or keystroke (command-option-control-eject key), the unit shuts down, but within 1 second proceeds to start up again. I have: zapped PRAM/ NVRAM, reset the board, swapped out for a newer PRAM battery, installed/ran Onyx and gave it a good cleaning; I even added a second hard drive, installed OS 9.2.2, ran from it and shut down - same issue! How do I shut it down? I let it restart, and after the bong, before anything starts loading, I flip the switch on the surge suppressor - hardly an optimum method I know that this issue was talked about earlier re: a Sawtooth and an unsupported Keyspan USB card (neither the case here). And, I haven't yet tried terminal-level commands (will do tomorrow). Beyond that, any thoughts? Maybe the power board is wonky? Thank you for any consideration/wisdom. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
List Mom request-sorry, again
*sigh* Hi all, Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to reach. Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via this group. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
How to get a hold of list moms
Sorry to be a bit off-topic, gang. What is the procedure (address) for contacting the list moms off-list? I can't seem to find it on my Google page. Thank you, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Shutdown issues
Greetings all, I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to be done at that moment. All other operations are fine. I've zapped PRAM and NVRAM, booted single-user, and restored disk permissions. I've looked on the Apple support site for related articles with no success; perhaps someone knows of one that addresses this issue? Yes, there is one PCI card in each unit (USB expansion card), but they've been there for a couple years with no issues. Thanks for any thoughts or possible solutions. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 wake up issues
Greetings all, Just need a little direction. One of the G5s in our music lab (1.8GHz/DP/June 2004 model) recently went through a nuke-and-pave (as Bruce likes to say :-), putting a new copy of OS 10.5.8 on it. Since then it does not like to wake up if it falls asleep (kind of the opposite of the more common doesn't go to sleep issue), or perhaps more accurately, it *may* wake up but unsuccessfully fires up the monitor. Only recourse is to do a hard shut down and a restart in order to regain functionality. I've reset the board with a battery/power cord pull, pressing the PMU button waiting several minutes and reconnect; and I've zapped the PRAM/ NVRAM with no luck on either. I've not yet booted into single-user mode, thinking that the OS is too new (its only visits on web are to do the Software Updates), but will try that on Monday. Beyond that, any other suggestions/ directions? Thank you in advance for any thoughts. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iTunes De-authorize issue on a G5
Hi all, Does anyone know how to de-authorize only one computer (out of the 5- station quota) on an iTunes account? My wife reached her limit with a new netbook a while ago - I bumped up her home office with a new (to her) G5, which needs authorizing. So far, the only options I can find are to tolerate the present state, or de-authorize all 5 stations in one fell swoop (which means all prior purchase records are lost-not good). I am sure that some of the stations being tagged are previous older Macs that did not get de-authorized. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Do G5s sleep?
Greetings all, I was able to move a spare G5 (1.8GHz, DP) from my school office to home studio. At the office, sleep on the unit was not a luxury; now at home it would be a nice feature. The G5 does not sleep; when I manually put it to sleep, it goes through the motions to the point of shitting down the monitor projection, then immediately wakes up again. The OS is 10.5.8, btw. Is this a common issue with G5s? Any particular preferences to trash to reset the Energy System Preference? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Question
Greetings all, Today I was blessed with a nice used late-model G5/2.3GHz Dual-Core unit to use as a server in my office. This is one of the PCI-E models. Everymac.Com states this about the PCI-E slots: This model has two open full-length four-lane PCI Express slots, and one open full-length eight-lane PCI Express slot (I presume the two four-lane slots are the 100MHz slots, and the third is a 133MHz slot, yes?) My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Thank you for the consideration. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Install script for fresh OS install?
Greetings all, I hope my description is accurate to the point that it rings a bell. I do remember this being briefly chatted up on this list, but I can't come up with the correct syntax to register a winning query. Here goes: I am putting a fresh install of OS X (Leopard) on a person's new (to- them) G5. When i am finished with all the updates, I would then like the unit to boot up as if they were the new owner, starting up the Mac for the first time and being asked to set up their account and register with Apple. I seem to recall a little utility script that one runs to make this so, or a start-up preference that needs deleting. Does this make sense, or ring a bell with anyone? If so, let me know. Thanks in advance for any input. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Modem question
Greetings all, A quick question, please. My elderly friend still connects to the web via dial-up. I give him a new (to him) G4/600MHz and internal modem running Tiger on it. He's asked me to come over and help him with his connections to Localnet. Presuming that something in Network settings my be screwed up, and I want to start completely from scratch, what preferences and/ or user settings do I trash? Thanks in advance for any help. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
QuickTime web download issue-what happened?
Greetings all, Hope this is the right place to ask this. Once upon a time (NOT too long ago!), I was able to download any QT-based movie snip (news items or instructional videos for software, for ex.) on Safari by simply waiting for the page to load, then right-clicking the panel and a save to desktop choice was made available. Not so anymore; the latest update combo of Safari and QuickTime Pro (in Leopard 10.5.8, btw) has severed that option. Now when i right-click I get an Open in Dashboard selection - *big whoop* (still doesn't allow an actual save of the movie). Can anyone offer an explanation, and maybe, a plug-in that restores this very helpful save file option? Many thanks, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Printer Woes - What do I trash?
Greetings all. A little assistance would be appreciated. I have an office G5 running 10.5.8; attached via USB is the printer, an HP Laser Jet P1505n. Recently, the printer suddenly decided to NOT print but instead send all requests to an ever-increasing queue list, with no intention of ever printing them (pause-resume-delete items proved fruitless) After deleting this list, I deleted the printer as a default printer and re-loaded it; no go. Re-installing drivers did not help either. I am now at the place where, if I select it as a recognized option for adding it to my personal list of printers in the Print and Fax preference, I get the following error message: An error occurred while trying to add the selected printer. successful-ok-conflicting-attributes I believe I am at the point where I need to throw away *everything* related to the printer, compelling the Mac to completely forget that the printer ever existed, so to speak. What do I throw away? Many thanks for some thought, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Dan's suggestion on backing up-Time Machine Query
...which is a good one, but I started a new thread just to keep things clean. I like to BK my working OS (on my G5) using SuperDuper, which I've done. However, I had a spare external FW drive that I tried Time Machine on. It's been a little while, so tonight I may do it again. However... the drive is only 200 Gig in size (remember the days when that spec was regarded as incredible?), so I am wondering what to expect, i.e. * does TM make a completely new duplicate image of your drive, or * does it make refresher tags, updating the prior image to a more contemporaneous state, and marking the changes? Thanks in advance for any illumination. Regards, and Happy New Year, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple DVI Adapter query
Greetings all. I have a question for those who have dealt with an adapter from Apple that is being sold these days. We purchased a new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro recently. Both were to have been provided with a Mini Display Port to DVI adapter (not the former mini-DVI to DVI adapter) - they were, but the DVI end was unlike any DVI configuration I had seen (and indeed, no DVI monitor that we own can connect to this adapter). I called Apple, and they were, citing possible production issues, willing to send me two new ones, which they did. Darned if the new ones didn't have the same questionable design. I go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface for a visual of various DVI grid arrangements - all our adapters look like none of these (on the left side of the female face is supposed to be at the very least a slot - ours has nothing, nada, zip). So, my question: for those of you who have such an adapter, what kind of DVI adapter should I be expecting? Should I contact Apple *again* and ask for new ones (I'm inclined to do so, but want to know what type of adapter to cite). Thank you much; Happy Holidays to all, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iPod Help
Greetings all, Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*), my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync, I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what is on the computer. What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone know the trick to this? many thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
Greetings, all. Hope someone can offer some sage advice on this subject - this is the second unit that such has happened to me: I have an upgraded QuickSilver, 2002 motherboard, being processed with a Sonnet G4/1 GHz single CPU, 1.5 Gig of RAM. The Sonnet firmware has been upgraded to 3.2 (Leopard support). I would like to get leopard installed on this unit (upgraded from 10.4.11, which it has run flawlessly for over a year now). When trying to boot off the (retail) Leopard DVD, the unit refuses to mount - I get the exact same symptoms as i did on another upgraded G4 (a QS being pushed by an OWC 1.5 GHz CPU): initial silver Apple screen, spinning gear icon for 30 seconds, a very distinctive click from, I guess, the HDs [i.e. the same sound you get when the OS is telling the HDs to spin down], about 10 more seconds of spinning gear icon, then freeze. As mentioned, firmware for the CPU is updated, drives pass their SMART test and PRAM/NVRAM is zapped; still no ability to boot off of the Leopard DVD (brand new retail, btw). Do you think that the DVD drive's firmware needs updating? it is a model SONY CD-RW CRX315E btw. Thank you for any thoughts; I'm stuck. Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
Hi all, Maybe this is an Apple joke. Just had to do a fresh install of Leopard on a G5. After a couple of glitches all went well. Booted it up and launched Safari to download the 10.5.7 Combo update. Ah! Was ist dieses ganz ungefähr? (what's all this, basically)- My Safari is completely in German - hey, so are my widgets! Hey, so are my system preferences! So, what's going on? Promise, I didn't pick it (though I do like German :-) Any way to get all back to U.S.of A.? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
