RE: Mac Retro Anyone?
Gee I use my G4 for serious stuff and a Quadra for play does that count as Mac Retro? Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you From: jetas...@netzero.com Subject: Re: Mac Retro Anyone? Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:06:51 -0500 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Well, nothing Apple makes is manufactured in this country. The last samples that were IIRC were G4 desktops. In order to be competitive, components would have to come from overseas as well. If this effort gathers steam, it will be in the spotlight of Apple's legal beagles where they have a source of cash from very deep pockets. OTOH, I would love to see Apple create a midrange desktop but I certainly will not hold my breath waiting. Regarding plastic retro, I detest nearly everything plastic! JT On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:18 PM, shawn matthews wrote:Alaswhat I said. Still, will we blindly accept our machines are doomed to be scrap? Let us, instead, leave the seeing to those with vision. Were I more technically inclined, I'd build mother boards for other machines that just incidentally fit in old Macs and could run OSX, even though I'd advertise them for Windows. Maybe someone in China will pick up the ball like they did with their Shanghai Special iPhone. Pity. It'd be nice if that money stayed here in the U.S. . --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: You'll be spending all that money on lawyers, dudebecause Apple will sue your a** in a heartbeat. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Compare Cell Phone Carriers- Click Now. _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Switching to OS X.3
My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? I can even replace the drive if need be as I have a spare 30 Gig sitting in a box, it is brand new. I replaced the DVD ROM with a writer and up the memory so I am not afraid to go into it. I would like to go to 10.4 but I haven't found a retail install I can afford, so this will have to do for a bit. Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Switching to OS X.3
Thanks, I think the existing drive is a 16 but it is a bit small, and I will follow your advice the 4 choices for install confused me as to what would be best. I have had to use Bloze to long as my late wife had to have it for work, only 2 choices there, so as soon as I get the G4 fairly modern in OS X. Then the Bloze machine is going to freecycle and I will save up for a newer Mac. It is a big step up though from my Quadra 6800 AVG Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you From: john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:23:49 -0700 On May 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Kirk Morrison wrote: My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? I can even replace the drive if need be as I have a spare 30 Gig sitting in a box, it is brand new. That would probably be the best, becasue if this is the original drive in the G4 it's probably only 6 or 10 gigs, right? Put in the 30 gig (leave in the existing drive). Use Carbon Copy CLoner to copy your existing boot volume to the 30 gig drive. Boot from the 10.3 CD, and after you seelct the 30G drive to install on, click on the Options button in the installer. Choose Archive Install and leave preserve user settings checked. This keeps all your user accounts but gives you a clean System install. You will have to re-install any 3rd party system drivers and pref panes; for example, when I do this I've got to re-install things like my Kensington and Wacom drivers. Once the new drive is upgraded and running well, you can reformat the old drive and use it for additional storage or a backup boot systems, etc. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Switching to OS X.3
Thanks, I will do that as it makes the most sense to me and as the only app is Open Office right now, I will just back up the Docs and my printer driver so I don't have to DL it again. Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:39:49 -0400 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com From: dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 At 11:18 AM -0400 5/7/2009, Kirk Morrison wrote: My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? Obtain all the necessary extension, plug-in, and app updates. Make a full backup. Boot on the Panther DVD and run Disk Utility. Erase your HD, zero'ing it. [*] Install OS X. Install your apps etc. Restore you user data. [*] This step ensures that you have a fresh clean file system on a known-good hard drive. No stray bad blocks hanging around, etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
I agree but use an archival storage box, acid free I shoot mostly 35mm and 120 film and use the digital for stuff that doesn't matter. I recently lost my wife and I am glad that my photos of her are mostly archived. I display copies that were digitized but the photos themselves are kept safe along with the negatives. Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:25:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Where do I learn becomes archiving files and images- the future From: tba...@nmia.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Well, for the ultimate in archivalness (is that a word?), to preserve things for future generations of your family, do what I plan to do: get rid of both magnetic and optical storage. Back to basics here. Sure, we all shoot digital now, but we don't have to store that way. Print out your most important digital images at high resolution on archival paper, using long-lasting pigmented inks, and then keep these prints in an album, dry, clean, and out of light, except when you look at them. They ought to last a generation or two that way (Epson says 200 years, at least). And then, to really save them for the ages, use a copy stand to shoot those prints with a camera that uses film, and the best film for the purpose is black and white. The black and white negatives will last practically forever, and any silver-based prints made from them (in an old-fashioned chemical darkroom, like I have) would last as long as the paper, which can also be centuries. In other words, get your important pictures out of the electronic devices altogether, and back into the shoebox, alongside Grandma's. All the future generations have to do then is pick them up and hold them in their hand, and look at them. Eyeballs never become obsolete. _ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
Hey one I can answer! It seems to be that Kodachrome 25 has a life of at least it seems 70 years under proper conditions of archival storage, Ektachrome seems to be about half to 3/4s of that time as some visible fading has occurred. BW prints properly fixed and rinsed are limited by the paper it seems and color prints vary with the paper. These are figures that I have read in photo mags Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you CC: jcalla...@stny.rr.com From: jcalla...@stny.rr.com Subject: Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:34:00 -0500 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Old 40 and 60 GB tape cartridges and the drive to use them are in a backroom somewhere as forgotten technology waiting to be given away to someone. I am not saying this is best for you but the old stuff is out there, hardly used in many cases and still viable. They were designed for long term archiving from the start. No one much cared about that with CDs as they are so convenient. Keeping disks in controlled environments is important too. especially regarding sunlight. It seems from this excellent interchange that for long term storage tape is the longest lasting. Does anyone have suggestions for converting computer images to tape? What is the life of 35 mm slides? I have some ten thousand of them that I have been scanning and burning to discs. Upsetting to learn of the failure of disc storage. Thank you _ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
