Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Langthorne
FIXED.

I did start to think it was time to ditch this PowerMac thinking the
power supply was gone as the price of a new power supply is not worth
it for such a old machine, but I thought I would try messing with the
RAM again so I unplugged it removed the newest sticks of RAM and
booted it up and its been fine ever since sleep works as it should.
Also the RAM is still in warranty so I can return it.

Fingers crossed all them failed boots didn't do any damage to the
power supply.

On Feb 13, 1:02 pm, Mark Langthorne langthorne.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have
 to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any
 ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was
 the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed
 the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on.

 If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option
 all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake.

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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-15 Thread John Carmonne

On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Mark Langthorne wrote:

 FIXED.
 
 I did start to think it was time to ditch this PowerMac thinking the
 power supply was gone as the price of a new power supply is not worth
 it for such a old machine, but I thought I would try messing with the
 RAM again so I unplugged it removed the newest sticks of RAM and
 booted it up and its been fine ever since sleep works as it should.
 Also the RAM is still in warranty so I can return it.
 
 Fingers crossed all them failed boots didn't do any damage to the
 power supply.
 t
 Try to reinstall the RAM. The G5 PowerMacs are real touchy on the seating of 
the RAM. Be sure all the sticks report in the Profiler. I've had to reseat a 
number of times to get all sticks running.


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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Langthorne

It is a Late 2005 Dual 2.3 G5 with 4.5GB ram. No Extra cards

By cuts out I mean it goes to sleep fine but soon as I hit a key to
wake it up the red light comes on for a second then there is a click
and the whole thing loses power, the fans don't even start spinning.

After the failed attempt of waking the Mac when I try to boot I get a
White and red light then click and off again no fans, so I unplug it
for about 3 minutes plug back in and it boots normally.


On Feb 14, 5:05 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 5:02 AM -0800 2/13/2012, Mark Langthorne wrote:

 Every time I put the Mac

 Please provide specific model / configuration details, especially
 what extra cards and peripherals are attached.

 to sleep it cuts out when waking.

 Explain please cuts out.  That could mean pretty much anything.
 Are you talking about some sort of system freeze or is there a total
 power loss or ?

 Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it.

 awhile is how long?
 And what happens if you try to reboot it before that time?

 ...We can only make vague guesses when provide vague information.
 Please, provide specifics.

 Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram
 to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all
 started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was
 switched on.

 IDE is not a hot swappable bus.  You may have damaged that drive, the
 IDE bus itself, other things on the motherboard.

 Look for errors in the system log... often they'll point to the thing
 that's not properly re-initializing after a wake event.

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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Mark Langthorne wrote:


It is a Late 2005 Dual 2.3 G5 with 4.5GB ram. No Extra cards

By cuts out I mean it goes to sleep fine but soon as I hit a key to
wake it up the red light comes on for a second then there is a click
and the whole thing loses power, the fans don't even start spinning.

After the failed attempt of waking the Mac when I try to boot I get a
White and red light then click and off again no fans, so I unplug it
for about 3 minutes plug back in and it boots normally.


Have you reset the SMU? The SMU is the System Management Unit that  
replaces the PMU (Power Management Unit) of older Macs. This controls  
the power during sleep, and if it gets corrupted you can have problems  
like this. Here's instructions:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1436?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US

If that doesn't fix it, you're probably unlucky and the power supply  
dying. My dual 2.3 had a power supply blow in the first week of usage.  
It was a new-old-stock computer, and I started using it 2 years after  
the date of manufacture. There was a problem with the power supplies  
in many G5's, and there was an extended warranty program that expired  
in 2010, so you're too late for a free replacement now. Apple did give  
me a free replacement which would have cost nearly $1,000 total.


There was a guy on LEM-Swap selling three power supplies for a REALLY  
good price last week, but I'm guessing they're all gone now?
http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap/browse_thread/thread/c733ebfe5d50ddae?hl=en 




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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 It is a Late 2005 Dual 2.3 G5 with 4.5GB ram. No Extra cards
 
 By cuts out I mean it goes to sleep fine but soon as I hit a key to
 wake it up the red light comes on for a second then there is a click
 and the whole thing loses power, the fans don't even start spinning.
 
 After the failed attempt of waking the Mac when I try to boot I get a
 White and red light then click and off again no fans, so I unplug it
 for about 3 minutes plug back in and it boots normally.

This is a hardware problem, either the power supply or logic board (my bet
is the logic board).

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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

 After the failed attempt of waking the Mac when I try to boot I get a
 White and red light then click and off again no fans, so I unplug it
 for about 3 minutes plug back in and it boots normally.
 
 This is a hardware problem, either the power supply or logic board (my bet
 is the logic board).

A professor here had similar problems, it turned out to be a failing power 
brick for his 23 Apple display, which had pass-through FW and USB. 

 Kind of annoying we dragged the beast all the  way across campus (our 
bookstore is an official Apple repair depot) only to have it start perfectly 
when it got there. Then fail again, the moment I set it up back in his 
office...:-/

He ended up going through two more power supplies until he made Apple give him 
one for the 30 display, which has a much higher wattage, no problems since.

Obviously if you don't have an Apple display, this won't apply

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PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Langthorne
Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have
to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any
ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was
the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed
the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on.

If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option
all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake.

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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-13 Thread John Carmonne

On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Mark Langthorne wrote:

 Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have
 to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any
 ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was
 the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed
 the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on.
 
 If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option
 all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake.
What model G5 do you have? I had one do that and it wound up to be the logic 
board in the end, Do you have any dead ports on it? Have you reset the CUDA 
switch and repaired the permissions?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacBook Pro i7






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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-13 Thread Dan

At 5:02 AM -0800 2/13/2012, Mark Langthorne wrote:

Every time I put the Mac


Please provide specific model / configuration details, especially 
what extra cards and peripherals are attached.



to sleep it cuts out when waking.


Explain please cuts out.  That could mean pretty much anything. 
Are you talking about some sort of system freeze or is there a total 
power loss or ?



Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it.


awhile is how long?
And what happens if you try to reboot it before that time?

...We can only make vague guesses when provide vague information. 
Please, provide specifics.


Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram 
to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all 
started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was 
switched on.


IDE is not a hot swappable bus.  You may have damaged that drive, the 
IDE bus itself, other things on the motherboard.


Look for errors in the system log... often they'll point to the thing 
that's not properly re-initializing after a wake event.


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Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?

2012-02-13 Thread Tina K.

On 2012/02/13 06:02, Mark Langthorne so eloquently wrote:

Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have
to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any
ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was
the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed
the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on.


Knowing the configuration, ie model, OS, etc… will allow list members to give 
informed advice rather than wild guesses. At this point my best guess would be to 
reset the pram/nvram. My iMac's display would not wake from sleep when I first got 
it, turned out to be bad ROM (?) flashed to the logic board. Given how old the G5s 
are I doubt that is your issue unless someone has recently monkeyed with it.



If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option
all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake.


Sleep is controlled in the Energy Saver preference pane, you can disable it 
there.


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