Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Lawrence David Eden]

I can say the same about my G4s.  All are still in use and working 
perfectly.  I have an upgraded Smurf at one of my elementary schools, 
and an upgraded Yikes! at another.  In my home I am running a DA Dual 
1.53 Mhz G4 and have been able to run my music notation software 
without ANY issues.
My only complaint is with streaming video, like HBOGO.  Motion is not 
smooth enough.

All of my G4s are running Tiger. (10.4.11)

Larry




I have used my 2002 Quicksilver G4 (867 MHz, Mac OS X 10.5.8) 
everyday for about the past 9 years.


It does everything I need -- e-mail, web browsing, music, video and 
photography.


I use NeoOffice as my document processor, presentation maker, and for 
spreadsheets.


I am quite happy with it!

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM, gira93 
<diskce...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello everyone!

Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,

I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
very well with 10.4.11.

I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[gira93]

On 2 Gen, 20:54, JoeTaxpayer  wrote:

> By the way, have a plan for when it fails. At some point, the power
> supply will die and you'll want to transfer files to a new machine. I
> have 5 G4s in the house, 2 have died so far.

I'm now worried about the psu :-) in the case of a psu failure can i
mod an atx psu to use on the quicksilver?

By the way, from the replies i received the g4 is still alive and
kickin'

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[William Tomcanin]

I have used my 2002 Quicksilver G4 (867 MHz, Mac OS X 10.5.8) everyday for
about the past 9 years.

It does everything I need -- e-mail, web browsing, music, video and
photography.

I use NeoOffice as my document processor, presentation maker, and for
spreadsheets.

I am quite happy with it!

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM, gira93  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
>
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
>
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
>
> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?
>
> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
>
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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Valter Prahlad]

> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
I have just recently switched to a G5.

Before that, I have been using a PM G4 DA (upgraded with a 1.4 GHz CPU) for
many years, and I just loved it. Apart from some slugginess with Adobe CS3
and when browsing, it was still just fine.
If the G5 wasn't for free :-D I'd still be using the G4.

Gaming, of course, is a different thing. There, the newer the better.

> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
I'd say that OSX loves Ram. Having 1GB Ram might improve speed (especially
if you have several open apps at the same time).
I think you can easily find PC133 SDRAM sticks for free or almost, nowadays.

> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
People criticizing just because someone is doing things differently than
them, are just plain annoying.

"You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all
the same."
(Jonathan Davis)

> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
You're english is pretty good. :-)
Although I'm Italian myself, so I should't know. :-D

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[skinnie]

Of Course G4s are still usefull, if they weren't people like me and other 
wouldn't took time to write this FAQ (on how to get most things done on 
powerpc macs)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1091765 and this 
site: http://powerpcusers.com/

I would love to use mine everyday, but I am a student, and most of the time 
I am on library,etc...
It's quiet, and runs fine most of the needed apps:

Powermac Sawtooth G4 @ Sonnet 1.2GHz
1.5Gb Ram
Geforce 6200 256Mb
500Gb Samsung F3 HDD @A-CARD 6290M PCI Sata
Conceptronic WIFI N PCI Card (Ralink chipset)
USB Bluetooth (1 dollar from ebay)
NEC PCI USB (5 dollars on ebay)
Apple Pro Kb+Logitech M505
Hp W1907v

Enjoy your powermac, if it fits your needs why you should be crazy?

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Nick Adams]

On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:58 PM, gira93 wrote:


 Are powermac g4 still useful?


I use a PowerMac G4 MDD 1.42Hhz every day and it does everything I  
want and relatively fast, almost as fast as my wife's Intel iMac.
I use PhotoShop, Filemaker Pro, iWork, iMovie HD and Peak LE to name a  
few applications.

I can see no valid reason to upgrade.

OS 10.5.8
2 GB ram
Firewire 800 built-in
USB 2 PCI card
ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card
Sonnet Tempo Serial ATA card with two 1 TB hard drives attached
One 320 ATA GB PATA Hard drive
Samsung SyncMaster930b display


My peripherals are:
Epson 3200 scanner
M-Audio Firewire Audiophile
Minolta Dimage Dual Scan IV
Lexmark E232 printer


Nick

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Mac User #330250]

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Subject: Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Date:Tuesday, 03. January 2012
From:Valter Prahlad 
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>
> I can't understand your concern. Am I missing something?
> 
> Number of download seems increasing to me.
> Considering only the "RC/final" 4 versions (G3, G4x2, G5):
> TFF 4.0.1 = 19904
> TFF 7.0 = 20703
> TFF 8.0 = 22334

I for one downloaded TenFourFox in *all* its optimized builds, because I do 
have a G3, G4s (both kinds: 7400 and 7450) and G5s.

So, 1) technically you should only count me once. And 2) I am sure that some 
people downloaded it twice.

I’d estimate no more than 10,000 TenFourFox users, which is then in return a 
good estimate of users still running PowerPC-based Macs.

On the other side there are some million Firefox users.


Don’t get me wrong. I’d say that 10,000 is enough to keep the developement 
going, and I’m very very grateful and happy that Cameron Kaiser and Floodgap 
Systems is doing all the work. I love the idea of having an AltiVec-optimized 
WebM engine on my PowerMac, and the faster JavaScript interpreter, which makes 
me wonder where it has been all these years before TenFourFox!

> I didn't consider TFF 9, because it's still "work in progress".
> DL numbers seem going up, though.

Version 9.0 is current, you should update immediately as it closes a few 
security holes and fixes some bugs.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 2-01-2012 23:36, Mac User #330250 ha scritto:

> I don¹t want to fall into a negative mood here, but still I find it importaint
> to point out an observation of mine that made me think that, sadly, these
> times are going to end soon: look at the download figures of TenFourFox. This
> will give you a good idea of how many of ³us² are still out thereŠ
> http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list ­ ³Downloadcount²

I can't understand your concern. Am I missing something?

Number of download seems increasing to me.
Considering only the "RC/final" 4 versions (G3, G4x2, G5):
TFF 4.0.1 = 19904
TFF 7.0 = 20703
TFF 8.0 = 22334

I didn't consider TFF 9, because it's still "work in progress".
DL numbers seem going up, though.

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Dennis Myhand]

Every day.  It is the storage server for my network.  DA 500 MHz dual 
processor 1.5gigs of RAM OS-10.4.  Your "bad English" is better than my 
students normal speech.  Peace, Dennis


On 1/2/2012 11:40 AM, gira93 wrote:

Hello everyone!

Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,

I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
very well with 10.4.11.

I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.



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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Mac User #330250]

Hello!

--  Original message  --
Subject: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Date:Monday, 02. January 2012
From:gira93 
To:  "G-Group" 
> Hello everyone!
> 
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,

Yes!

> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.

I have/had the exact one too. But I upgraded the processor. The 733 MHz model 
lacks level 2 cache, which makes it really slow compared to the 733 MHz 
version of the G4 Digital Audio.

I’d recommend getting a used processor module (+ heatsink) of the Dual-800 MHz 
or even the Dual-1 GHz version. Alternatively a third party upgrade will help 
a lot.


Even on 10.4 the QS-733 felt significantly slower than the MDD-Dual-1-GHz.

> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

I’m a crazy person when it comes to answering your question: am I still using 
an old G4?

Well, I've got a lot of G4s, two G5s and one G3. And what do I use mostly?
The G3!

I got the slowest and oldest of them all running Tiger, Microsoft Office (which 
just rocks compared to LibreOffice; I don’t know much about iWork) and 
TenFourFox for the internet. I don’t actually use YouTube on it thou. Wouldn’t 
work anyway.

I also occasionally use a G4 Cube which I plan to upgrade: a GeForce 6200 
graphics card maybe, but I’d loose compatibility for the older Mac OSes. I’ll 
definitely upgrade the single 450 MHz processor in favour of a Dual-500 MHz 
module that I already have tested in one of my G4 towers.

What else… I now used one of the G5s a lot. I found that YouTube works great 
using TenFourFox and WebM/html5. It’s got some issues with the fans thou.


Crazy? Just a matter of perspective. If you can still do with it what you want 
to do with it, why on earth should that be crazy?

I ran Linux on my G4 MDD Dual-1 GHz at first. It was great, but I eventually 
went for a newer G5 to replace it, which ended in a desaster—just two words: 
hardware support.

> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?

I think the replies to your post answer it well. There are still people out 
there that keep their Power Macs running.

I don’t want to fall into a negative mood here, but still I find it importaint 
to point out an observation of mine that made me think that, sadly, these 
times are going to end soon: look at the download figures of TenFourFox. This 
will give you a good idea of how many of “us” are still out there…
http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list – “Downloadcount”

> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
I’m not in the possition to tell you any different than that your English is 
great. I’m from Austria.


Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Stephen Conrad]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Clark Martin  wrote:

>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:40 AM, gira93 wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
> >
> > I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> > love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> > very well with 10.4.11.
> >
> > I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> > use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
> >
> > So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?
>
> I use my dual CPU 867 MHz MDD
It has 2 Gig RAM and runs OS X 10.5.8

Prior to that I ran a Quicksilver with maxxed out RAM and OS X 10.4.11
I upgraded due to a need for more RAM and the ability to add more HDs
The quicker speed was also a factor

Prior to that was a B&W GW (a Smurf)

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Clark Martin]

On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:40 AM, gira93 wrote:

> Hello everyone!
> 
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
> 
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
> 
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
> 
> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?

I routinely use a MDD G4 with dual CPUs.  I do CAD work and software 
development on it for embedded systems.  It's not my main machine, that's a 
MacBook Pro. Many days I use the G4 more than the MBP.  I don't watch streaming 
video on it but I do watch mp4 video files on it.  And when I've compiled the 
code I'm working on I use a G3 Pismo to download it to the MicroController I'm 
working on.

Besides CAD and editing / compiling I use the usual web browsing, database, 
word processing, spreadsheet, etc. applications on it.

My household fileserver is a G4 QuickSilver with a SATA card and about 2Tb of 
storage.

Yes, G4s are still quite viable.  As to being crazy, I can't say but there is 
nothing wrong with using a G4 for daily use.

> 
> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.

Your "bad" english is better than quite a few so called native speakers I've 
seen on the Internet.  It is certainly better than my Italian which is 
non-existant.

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Ernst Schlegel]

2012/1/2 gira93 

> Hello everyone!
>
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
>
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
>
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
>
> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?
>
> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
>
> I am still working occasionaly with a G3 350. No problem.

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Len Gerstel]

On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:54 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:


Crazy? You'd be crazy only if it didn't do what you needed and made
you miserable. (Which certainly makes the case for most windows users,
but I digress.)

I still have my MDD G4s and they're very useful. They still rip DVDs,
browse the web, transcode video to work on my TiVo, and run iTunes to
load my iPod.
As long as it works, be happy.

By the way, have a plan for when it fails. At some point, the power
supply will die and you'll want to transfer files to a new machine. I
have 5 G4s in the house, 2 have died so far.

On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93  wrote:


I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just because i
use such an old mac for the "everyday use".


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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Ashgrove]

On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93  wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
>
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
>
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

Your English is great!

Everyday use is exactly what older computers are great for. Email,
Internet surfing, word processing, most YouTube (with the right
tricks), there is nothing they won't do.

The kind of people who say that is usually the kind of people who
won't watch a Fellini movie because it's "old"...

Ciao,

Felix

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[JoeTaxpayer]

Crazy? You'd be crazy only if it didn't do what you needed and made
you miserable. (Which certainly makes the case for most windows users,
but I digress.)

I still have my MDD G4s and they're very useful. They still rip DVDs,
browse the web, transcode video to work on my TiVo, and run iTunes to
load my iPod.
As long as it works, be happy.

By the way, have a plan for when it fails. At some point, the power
supply will die and you'll want to transfer files to a new machine. I
have 5 G4s in the house, 2 have died so far.

On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93  wrote:

> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just because i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Baha Ata]

I had dual 1000 Mhz G4. Installed Mac OS Server 10.5. Good backup server
for my other macs with its SATA card and SATA discs. Sometimes i even use
it for DVD Burning, iMovie simple movies and surfing. Even i watch some
online TV on it. Other than its wind sound it is good to work with.

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> I use Mactubes to view youtube videos using Quicktime, it's fast and
> the videos are very fluids!
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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Matevž Markovič]

I used (and still am using) my PowerMac G4 MDD (1,25 Ghz) for (amateur)
mathematical research, along with one other Core i5 computer. It certainly
still is useful.

Matevž

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Jesse]

I do I have dual core mdd g4, it's amazing and other than that no real java 
upgrade...

This is the most amazing computer, and makes me regret not sellin everything 
ibhad in 2003 to get one..Now I I could afford the g5 quad core of my 
dreams

Sent from my iPhone 4





On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:40 AM, gira93  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
> 
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
> 
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
> 
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
> 
> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?
> 
> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
> 
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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[gira93]

I use Mactubes to view youtube videos using Quicktime, it's fast and
the videos are very fluids!

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[Stro]

I am currently using a g4 MDD dual 867mhz OS 10.5 and I have no issues
with it.  I also have a g4 DA dual 533 mhz that I use on occasion.  I
say if the computer meets your needs, then use it.

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[schaffpa]

Your English is very good! If it works for you, tell them to blow off. ;^) 

G4 MDD Dual 1.0GHz (10.4.11) here is barely adequate, have to continually 
change my YouTube resolution to 360, but it works fine for Word and most other 
things. I plan on upgrading, but only because I feel its limitations. If you 
don't, ignore those 'other' folks. ;^) 

Ciao, 

- Peter 

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Subject: Are powermac g4 still useful? 

Hello everyone! 

Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, 

I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and 
love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works 
very well with 10.4.11. 

I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i 
use such an old mac for the "everyday use". 

So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? 

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. 

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Are powermac g4 still useful?

[gira93]

Hello everyone!

Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,

I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
very well with 10.4.11.

I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
use such an old mac for the "everyday use".

So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.

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