Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Kasey Smith


On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Kasey Smith wrote:


Why not just do an upgrade install?


Upgrade is what you do from a lower system version to a higher  
system version, for example you upgrade from any Jaguar version to  
any Panther version. Upgrade installs generally preserve system  
settings. Archive install is when you're downgrading an  
installation. For example, let's say you've got a 10.5 Leopard  
installer DVD and you're running an updated version of Leopard  
10.5.8. In this instance, you need to do an Archive installation to  
preserve your user accounts and settings, and the you'll need to  
run Software Update again because the Archive installation will be  
a 10.5.0 installation, and you'll want to get back to 10.5.8.


Upgrade will take you UP in system version.
Archive will take you DOWN in system version.

Which you chose depends upon what system version you're using, and  
what version installer disc you have.


I know this, but Jonas here is going up, and an upgrade seems to be a  
better option.


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Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Jonas Lopez
--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 Subject: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:38 PM
  Upgrade is what you do from a lower system version to
 a higher system version, for example you upgrade from any
 Jaguar version to any Panther version. Upgrade installs
 generally preserve system settings. Archive install is when
 you're downgrading an installation, No.
 
 An upgrade installs the new system files over the old ones.
 An Archive and Install creates a new system, then moves the
 old user data and files to it. it works perfectly well in an either 
 direction. This is my preferred method of upgrading a system.
 In 10.6, this is the only way, although of course Apple
 chooses to confuse the issue by calling it 'Upgrade'.--Bruce Johnson

Nice discussion but not the issue - what I am trying to do is like upgrading a 
G4 to a G5 or some other change in the Mboard that is questionable and so I do 
need to manually find the cookies and bookmarks and preserve them, then 
completley wipe the hd removing the exhisting partitions that were on it. I can 
not archive and install upgrade or downgrade - so where are these files and 
what is the likely names of them. Thanks.
JML




  

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Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Kasey Smith


On Jan 25, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu  
wrote:

From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
Subject: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:38 PM

Upgrade is what you do from a lower system version to

a higher system version, for example you upgrade from any
Jaguar version to any Panther version. Upgrade installs
generally preserve system settings. Archive install is when
you're downgrading an installation, No.

An upgrade installs the new system files over the old ones.
An Archive and Install creates a new system, then moves the
old user data and files to it. it works perfectly well in an  
either direction. This is my preferred method of upgrading a system.

In 10.6, this is the only way, although of course Apple
chooses to confuse the issue by calling it 'Upgrade'.--Bruce Johnson


Nice discussion but not the issue - what I am trying to do is like  
upgrading a G4 to a G5 or some other change in the Mboard that is  
questionable and so I do need to manually find the cookies and  
bookmarks and preserve them, then completley wipe the hd removing  
the exhisting partitions that were on it. I can not archive and  
install upgrade or downgrade - so where are these files and what is  
the likely names of them. Thanks.

JML
In that case, use Migration Assistant (in /Application/Utilities) You  
can copy all your files and settings over to the new Mac over  
firewire this way. \o/ 


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Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Al Poulin


On Jan 25, 8:05 pm, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 25, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

  Nice discussion but not the issue - what I am trying to do is like  
  upgrading a G4 to a G5 or some other change in the Mboard that is  
  questionable and so I do need to manually find the cookies and  
  bookmarks and preserve them, then completley wipe the hd removing  
  the exhisting partitions that were on it. I can not archive and  
  install upgrade or downgrade - so where are these files and what is  
  the likely names of them. Thanks.
  JML

 In that case, use Migration Assistant (in /Application/Utilities) You  
 can copy all your files and settings over to the new Mac over  
 firewire this way. \o/

I still do not see what Jonas wants to achieve with clarity.
Upgrading the hardware or OS or both?  Whatever, he could consider
making a bootable clone of his entire working hard drive with Carbon
Copy Cloner to an external drive.  Make whatever hardware changes he
wants to the Mac.  Boot the new Mac from the clone to test things
out.  If happy, erase the Mac's internal drive and clone back to it
from the external.  Then upgrade the OS with an Archive and Install if
moving up to Leopard from Tiger or to Tiger from Panther.  If moving
up to Snow Leopard, then do the Upgrade, not Erase.

Al Poulin

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Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Jonas Lopez
--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com
 Subject: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 5:17 PM
 On Jan 25, 8:05 pm, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com
 wrote: On Jan 25, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

Nice discussion but not the issue - what I am trying to do is like this = It is 
hard to get a post published, my rate is 1 in 5, but you would not know this 
problem, because posters of camera questions that have nothing to do with G4s 
and changing the mother board that is experimental and a waste of our time and 
other non G3-5 items manage to get full posting, so I have to beat the bush and 
fudge to try to get the answers needed. 

So, here is the real story: 

On my G4 I have 2 hd one has 2 partitions with 10.2 in one and 10.4 in the 
other the other hd is just storage. I decided to check the hds and ran 
command+s so that I could in turn run /sbin/fsck -fy for 10.4 it came back 
fine, but for 10.2 it reported failure. I ask the list for help, since when I 
moved ALL the stuff off the 10.2, so as to clear the directory and save the 
partition, I found some 3 Gb yet no known reasons.

It was suggested that I get a program Disk Inventory X to see the disk and 
it showed lots of stuff. Since I had already stripped the 10.2 partition and 
was now finding invisible files, this program would let me remove them as this 
was the goal.

I wanted to test what I was doing, so I started with the first most listing and 
moved it to the trash, emptied the trash and did a restart to see if all was 
well - to my astonishment I found myself in the sign on set up to name the NEW 
ADMINISTRATOR AND NEW PASS WORD.

I panicked. OMG what is going on. I rechecked the display from Disk Inventory 
X to see the picture. There is NO WAY TO MAKE AN ERROR when you have to 
select the disk partition - it turns blue - and then build the picture, so I am 
sure I was NOT ON THE 10.4 partition.

This damage, as astonishing as it is, meant all the passwords and cookies are 
now gone, but Wait there is the original user name in the users folder, but 
only the NEW ADMINISTRATOR account exists due to this problem.

What to do? IDEA: Since in the new user account the browsers create new cookies 
and bookmark files, if I could only find them in the old user account and 
simply move them to the new user account replacing the newly created files, all 
damage would be resolved.

Now you all know why suggestions about upgrade and downgrade stuff is not the 
issue, but is is the only way I was able to get the question posted on the list.

This is not my fault. Had my original posters been published, it would not have 
been necessary to beat about the bush so much to try to fine the file names of 
the cookies and the bookmarks.
Thank you all, JML.







  

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Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?

2010-01-25 Thread Will S


This is not my fault. Had my original posters been published, it
would not have been necessary to beat about the bush so much to try to
fine the file names of the cookies and the bookmarks.
Thank you all, JML. 

I got what you were asking for. Just thought someone else would answer
before I did ;-)

For Web browser your looking for the book mark file. Location will
vary a little with browser your using.
Safari the path is:
User(yourname)/Library/Safari/bookmarks

Camino :
User/Library/Application Support/Camino/bookmarks

Cookies are invisible files. So you have to turn on invisible files to
find and save them. They are in the same folder as the bookmarks.
Camino's is called cookies.sqlite
Safari's I'm unable to locate the cookies file sorry.
Firefox which I no longer use is likely in one place or the other.
Best of luck . Hope this helps. Will S

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