Re: USB Backward compatibility
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net mailto:gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. I was thinking of getting one of those SD card readers for my BW and swap it between my dads PC. (I don't think it will make my mac sick ha ha).. Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? In general it any combination will work. A computer with a USB 2.0 interface will work with either USB 1.x or 2.0 peripherals. A computer with a USB 1.x interface will work with USB 1.x peripherals. A computer with a USB 1.x interface fill often but not always work with USB 2.0 peripherals. Things like flash drives, card readers and harddisks will generally work, just slowly of course. CD-RW can have problems burning a disk as USB 1.1 is just fast enough to do it, not counting the overhead. I'm pretty sure DVD-RW can't burn a DVD as the data rate is just too slow. I have an EyeTV receiver that needs USB 2.0 because of the data rate. Also some things have problems with power from USB 1.x computer interfaces, such as iPods. Bruce Johnson is the expert. It seems the last time we had the go around on this (without searching the LEM archive) he assured me that US2 function was in the OS and not the hardware IIRC YMMV . On the computer both the hardware and software must support USB 2.0 in order to get USB 2.0 functionality with the peripherals. __ To further clarify my earlier post; IIRC I had claimed that the bus o my 9600 would not support USB 2 transfer SPEEDS but Bruce had said this was not a hardware limitation but a software limitation. He cited the OS X versions that were in question. Again IIRC YMMV. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB backward compatibility
As I recently found out, iPhones USB 1.1 do not play well together. I made the sad mistake of doing the initial setup of my iPhone 3g on my wife's pc due to speed issues, then Sent from my iPhone Mac user since '90 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? Yes. I connected a USB 2.0 hob to my BW's USB 1.0 port and it worked fine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? ___ Various USB 2 thumbdrives.scanners and printers. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Gus wrote: I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. Most of the time a USB 2.0 device will work on a USB 1.1 bus just fine, albeit at USB 1.1 speeds. I have run into a few USB 2.0 devices that Mean It!, but not in quite a while. In my experience they were very early USB 2.0 devices, like DVD burners. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
I just want to thank all of you who responded. I should have checked the archive before posting my question. I read about it on the wikipedia, but I just wanted to know of some one who actually TRIED it. again, thanks to all!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
I have and it's pretty jerky! On Nov 27, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? Yes. I connected a USB 2.0 hob to my BW's USB 1.0 port and it worked fine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.ยจ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB Backward compatibility
I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. I was thinking of getting one of those SD card readers for my BW and swap it between my dads PC. (I don't think it will make my mac sick ha ha).. Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? Thanks!!! Course they do say that the devices work for mac os 9 and up, I would think that the only machines that could run OS 9 natively only came with usb 1.0, unless you put some sort of PCI adapter card for USB 2.0 in there??? Your thoughts are appreciated!!! Gus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. I was thinking of getting one of those SD card readers for my BW and swap it between my dads PC. (I don't think it will make my mac sick ha ha).. Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? Bruce Johnson is the expert. It seems the last time we had the go around on this (without searching the LEM archive) he assured me that US2 function was in the OS and not the hardware IIRC YMMV . -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/jr http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Gus wrote: I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. Both, USB 2.0 will work just fine on a USB 1.1 Bus and vice versa. I have a USB 2.0 PCI card in my G3 BW and it helps a lot. Oh, by the way no Apple computer shipped with USB 1.0 (I don't think many PCs did either) They all come with USB 1.1 or 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net mailto:gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. I was thinking of getting one of those SD card readers for my BW and swap it between my dads PC. (I don't think it will make my mac sick ha ha).. Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? In general it any combination will work. A computer with a USB 2.0 interface will work with either USB 1.x or 2.0 peripherals. A computer with a USB 1.x interface will work with USB 1.x peripherals. A computer with a USB 1.x interface fill often but not always work with USB 2.0 peripherals. Things like flash drives, card readers and harddisks will generally work, just slowly of course. CD-RW can have problems burning a disk as USB 1.1 is just fast enough to do it, not counting the overhead. I'm pretty sure DVD-RW can't burn a DVD as the data rate is just too slow. I have an EyeTV receiver that needs USB 2.0 because of the data rate. Also some things have problems with power from USB 1.x computer interfaces, such as iPods. Bruce Johnson is the expert. It seems the last time we had the go around on this (without searching the LEM archive) he assured me that US2 function was in the OS and not the hardware IIRC YMMV . On the computer both the hardware and software must support USB 2.0 in order to get USB 2.0 functionality with the peripherals. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
