Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
The G4 MDD runs leopard very nicely. (I have both the 1.25, 1.42) However Snow needs Intel chips, so for me, this is the highest OS I can run. It will boot into OS9, but I've not needed to do that in a long time. On May 14, 5:23 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Natively through me off??? Then I'm not sure but I think it won't run with Leopard or Snow Leopard but it will with Tiger so I would say any computer that will run Tiger??? I think it's the OS that matters not the computer??? Any help here with this because I'm just guessing??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
-- Original message -- Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? Date:Freitag 14 Mai 2010N From:coolr...@comcast.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? That question caused some confusion around here. So I feel I should also write what I (think I) know. ABOUT ME: I'm with Power Macs for about 2½ years now, so I wasn't around when what you ask actually took place. But I went very much into this OS 9 thing because I wanted to get a running configuration of OS 9 on my Macs as well, so I think I know a little bit about it. So: ABOUT THE QUESTION: The last Mac that SHIPPED with Mac OS 9 was the MDD 2003 1.25 GHz (Single) – purely due to demand, since the FW800 (and all G5s) cannot boot OS 9 anymore and the only way to get OS 9 was Classic ever since. Well, ever since until Leopard came out… :-) At least the QS2002 and the MDDs (including the MDD 2003) shipped with a special version of Mac OS 9. The last model to support a retail version of Mac OS 9 is the original QS from 2001. All later models require a special version – the one they shipped with. That said, I'm not sure if these models (up to the QS) actually shipped with Mac OS 9 at all – since any retail version of Mac OS 9 can be installed at any time (e.g. if Mac OS X is already installed). On the other hand an included version of Mac OS 9 for a specific model, e.g. the G4 AGP, cannot be installed on another model. :-( Before that Apple startet to include a version of Mac OS X (10.0 or 10.1) with a default installation of Mac OS 8.5+ – e.g. the QS G4 (original 2001) I've got shipped with Mac OS 9.2 and had Mac OS X 10.0.4 included (for early adopters?) – sadly the discs where vanished when I got it two years ago. I hope that more or less answers the question. And, I sure hope I'm right… you never know :-) Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? Date:Samstag 15 Mai 2010N From:Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com That said, I'm not sure if these models (up to the QS) actually shipped with Mac OS 9 at all … … e.g. the QS G4 (original 2001) I've got shipped with Mac OS 9.2 and had Mac OS X 10.0.4 included (for early adopters?) Got me! Sorry for that. … sadly the discs where vanished when I got it two years ago. Well, that's my excuse. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I haven't seen the iMac discussed, although I may have overlooked it. The last iMac to boot into OS9 was an iLamp. The G4/800 MHz, 17 LCD model and 15 LCD models. There was a nearly identical 17 iLamp model which does not boot OS9. The one that does is modelM8812LL/A. It shipped with an 80.0 GB hard drive and NVIDIA GeForce4 MX graphics with 32 MB of DDR SDRAM (AGP 2X support). The 17 iMac which does not boot OS9 is model M9105LL/A. It shipped with a 60.0 GB and NVIDIA GeForce2 MX graphics with 32 MB of DDR SDRAM (AGP 2X support). The two machines are very difficult to tell apart. Everymac.com has the details, of course. From what I've read, the special version of OS9 that the MDDs needed was really a matter of having the proper MacOS ROM file installed in the OS9 system folder. If this is incorrect, I'd love to read other details. One of my back-burner projects (too many hobbies) is to get the two MDDs in the house booting OS9 reliably. They're both 400Mbps Firewire models and I've only worked on one of them so far (probably more than a year ago). Some nice people sent me some disks which I really need to experiment with.Fish. Cat. Vegetable garden. Eight-year-old. Work. Electronics. Homeowning. Sigh. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
Natively through me off??? Then I'm not sure but I think it won't run with Leopard or Snow Leopard but it will with Tiger so I would say any computer that will run Tiger??? I think it's the OS that matters not the computer??? Any help here with this because I'm just guessing??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I think he means natively BOOT OS 9. There are a couple of machines, and correct me if I am wrong on this. But the newest machine that will BOOT OS 9 would be the MDD based G4 powermac with standard Airport. The Airport Extreme model will not booth OS 9 and even on the one with the standard Airport card, it requires the model specific OS 9. Same goes for the eMac, some of which will boot OS 9, but I know the 1.42 GHz model will not. The Quicksilver will install off just a standard retail OS 9 disk and is a good machine. This may be your sweet spot for OS 9. You can pick up a Quicksilver 2002 model for a decent price these days. If you have any questions, please let me know. On May 14, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Natively through me off??? Then I'm not sure but I think it won't run with Leopard or Snow Leopard but it will with Tiger so I would say any computer that will run Tiger??? I think it's the OS that matters not the computer??? Any help here with this because I'm just guessing??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I think he means natively BOOT OS 9. There are a couple of machines, and correct me if I am wrong on this. But the newest machine that will BOOT OS 9 would be the MDD based G4 powermac with standard Airport. The Airport Extreme model will not booth OS 9 and even on the one with the standard Airport card, it requires the model specific OS 9. Same goes for the eMac, some of which will boot OS 9, but I know the 1.42 GHz model will not. The Quicksilver will install off just a standard retail OS 9 disk and is a good machine. This may be your sweet spot for OS 9. You can pick up a Quicksilver 2002 model for a decent price these days. If you have any questions, please let me know. True, Jason and here is a bit more info from EveryMac http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html condensed a bit further into release dates etc The Powermac G4 1.25DP ( FW 400) - Model M8570 (Order No. M8573LL/A )intro'd Jan 28,2003 disc June 23,2003 can boot into OS9 The Powermac G4 1.0 ( FW 800 ) - Model M8570 (Order No. M8839LL/A ) intro'd Jan 28,2003 disc June 23,2003 cannot boot into OS9 The Powermac G4 1.25DP ( FW 800 ) - Model M8570 (Order No. M8840LL/A ) intro'd Jan 28,2003 disc June 23,2003 cannot boot into OS9 The Powermac G4 1.42DP ( FW 800 ) - Model M8570 (Order No. M8841LL/A )intro'd Jan 28,2003 disc June 23,2003 cannot boot into OS9 The Apple Power Macintosh G4/1.25 (MDD 2003) ( M9145LL/A )intro'd June 23,2003 disc June 9,2004 can boot into OS9 It is a re-released version of the Power Macintosh G4/1.25 DP (MDD) (M8573LL/A) -- due to demand from users who still needed to boot MacOS 9 -- but configured, by default, with a single processor released on June 23, 2003 and discontinued on June 9, 2004 . This was a cheapie version with a single processor, less RAM, a smaller hard drive, and a DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo drive instead of a DVD-R/CD-RW SuperDrive. It also sold for a much lower price, US$1299 instead of US$3299. I'm not 100% sure why some of these can't boot into OS9 but I would hazard a guess that it is a problem of the logicboard and the OS not being able to recognise FW800 in OS9. Stewie _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r I remember working at a school in Texas (Willie Nelson's home town) and we received a new G-3 iMac in Red running OS9. That was in April of 2001. I think the next things that came out were running OSX. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
You can use MacTracker to find these answers yourself. PowerMac G4 MDD iBook G3 900MHz 32MB VRAM PowerBook G4 1GHz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
On May 13, 2010, at 3:54 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. After the G5's came out, Apple released a revised MDD model that booted into a special-for-this-model-only version of OS 9.2.2. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I made a mistake it was the end of 2001 I got that OS 10 disc... So I would have to say the G3 iBooks and iMacs were the last to just come with OS 9 (or somewhere in the middle of the G3's before the G4's) then I think they started to come dual boot 9 and 10 with Classic after that but I couldn't tell you what models??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list