Re: wireless for powermac g4
> Any tip on an "N" mini pci card airport compatible? I believe you'd have to go with a Mini-PCI-e card and adapter, and that will cost a lot more money. Plus, you have to have a 1x PCI-e slot available. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
Great info about those adapters. I have a SMC USB 54G Wifi pen that works on OSX but sometimes it fails.. Any tip on an "N" mini pci card airport compatible? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
great info--thanks! i happen to have a broadcomm mini-pci card that i had pulled from a dead dell laptop. i just ordered an adapter from ebay! thanks again ken On Jan 25, 12:21 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > > I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM) > > and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most > > things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what > > type of wireless would be best for this machine. > > If you want 100 percent Airport Extreme (802.11b/g) compatibility for the > lowest possible cost, then the solution is available on ePrey (sic) for > about US$10. > > First, you need a Mini-PCI (NO, not a Mini-PCI-e) Broadcom WiFi card. > These cards are intended for use in Dell and similar laptops. Most of the > laptop manufacturers have gone to a Mini-PCI-e WiFi card, which explains > the low cost of these cards. > > Second, you need a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter which includes an R-SMA > connector and cable. > > Finally, you need an R-SMA antenna. > > All of the above can be had for about US$10, total, although probably not > all from the same seller. > > These products are often sold with shipping included in the price, usually > shipped from Hong Kong or Singapore. > > I have about ten of these installed in systems. > > So far, no DOAs or other defects. > > About This Mac ... reports this system thusly: > > Software Versions: > Menu Extra: 6.2.1 (621.1) > configd plug-in: 6.2.3 (623.2) > System Profiler: 6.0 (600.9) > Network Preference: 6.2.1 (621.1) > AirPort Utility: 5.5.2 (552.11) > IO80211 Family: 3.1.2 (312) > Interfaces: > en0: > Card Type: Third-Party Wireless Card > Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 b/g > Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 > Current Network Information: > PHY Mode: 802.11g > BSSID: 0:50:18:4f:51:f8 > Network Type: Infrastructure > Security: WPA Personal > Signal / Noise: -72 dBm / -93 dBm > Transmit Rate: 24 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
Standard Xvid works kinda nice with Quicktime on my box: GeForce4 MX but flash etc sucks and hd > - Original message - > From: "Clark Martin" > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: wireless for powermac g4 > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:43:34 -0800 > > > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:32 AM, akhoff18 wrote: > > > wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router, > > correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router. > > > > another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar > > with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch > > movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with > > an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web > > surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am > > running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly > > so the quality is better. > > Forget Netflix, it uses M$'s Silverlight and there is no PPC version > of it. There is workalike software called Moonlight (???) but even > with that Netflix rejects the web browser (even if you try faking the > web browser ID). > > I have a dual CPU MDD and it can play a QT movie okay at 640x480. It > drags if I try putting up as full screen though. It will play > youtube well enough. > > I don't recall what video card it has in it off hand. It may be an > ATI Radeon 7500. > > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a > group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular > focus on Power Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
> would someone be able to send a quick link to what exactly encompasses > a mini pci to pci adapter...just so i know i'm buying the correct > part. i searched on ebay and a few different things came up with the > same name. Mini-PCI Broadcom Airport-compatible WiFi card ... http://cgi.ebay.com/Broadcom-Mini-PCI-WIFI-802-11b-g-54Mbps-Wireless-Card-/220385813369 ... and only US$3.75 which includes free shipment to the USA. And ... http://cgi.ebay.com/WiFi-54-108b-g-Wireless-LAN-Mini-PCI-PCI-Adapter-/110562755286 ... and only US$1.37 plus US$2.99 shipping to the USA. I have no horses in these races. I have purchased these devices from several ePrey (sic) sellers, not necessarily the ones cited above, and all sell essentially the same respective products. Shop on the basis of total price (item plus shipping), and let that be your guide. There is another style of adapter, and which has no antenna connector nor cable. That is NOT suitable for the recommended application. Also you only need the one antenna, usually indicated as "main" on the card, although the Broadcom 4318 card can support two antennas. Two antennas are appropriate for laptop applications where the antenna is hidden in the laptop's base or display. The designation "Broadcom 4318" essentially guarantees 100 percent Airport Extreme compatibility, without the need for any hacking of the Airport driver. The adapter has an R-SMA antenna connector and a cable which will mate to the microscopic coaxial connector on the Broadcom card. Any antenna with an R-SMA connector will do. Most overseas vendors are selling antennas branded DLink, but those are not the only one which will work. The card and antenna are sensitive enough to connect to a WiFi router which is located several rooms away, perhaps 50'. No need for a larger antenna, in most cases. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On Jan 25, 3:17 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > > Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have > > limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB > > 1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native > > 54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with > > original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed > > 802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have > > USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card > > is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs. > > The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow. > > Glacially slow. > > For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a > Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10, > too. > > No need to worry about Belkin's (or whomever's) card revision (most are > NOT Mack-compatible, but a few of the obscure ones are) as the Mini-PCI > Broadcom card comes in only one flavor, and it is Airport Extreme > compatible OOTB. would someone be able to send a quick link to what exactly encompasses a mini pci to pci adapter...just so i know i'm buying the correct part. i searched on ebay and a few different things came up with the same name. many thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
> There are also a few PCI wifi adapters that are Broadcom based and > will be read as an Airport Extreme card. I'm using a Belkin one in my > Quicksilver right now. Gotta make sure it's the right one, though. I have a few of those, too. Most are the non-Airport-compatible versions, however. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:32 AM, akhoff18 wrote: > wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router, > correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router. > > another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar > with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch > movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with > an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web > surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am > running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly > so the quality is better. Forget Netflix, it uses M$'s Silverlight and there is no PPC version of it. There is workalike software called Moonlight (???) but even with that Netflix rejects the web browser (even if you try faking the web browser ID). I have a dual CPU MDD and it can play a QT movie okay at 640x480. It drags if I try putting up as full screen though. It will play youtube well enough. I don't recall what video card it has in it off hand. It may be an ATI Radeon 7500. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On Jan 25, 3:17 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a > Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10, > too. There are also a few PCI wifi adapters that are Broadcom based and will be read as an Airport Extreme card. I'm using a Belkin one in my Quicksilver right now. Gotta make sure it's the right one, though. Best, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
>> For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a >> Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10, >> too. > > Hwill that work in an airport slot, as in a laptop? Works in a laptop in its Mini-PCI slot. Works in a desktop, in its PCI slot (using the adapter). No other option that I am aware of. Some Hacks have PCI-e slots, and the later Broadcom PCI-e card will work in those slots, too. I've done both and both work as 100 percent Airport Extreme-compatible solutions. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow. > > Glacially slow. > > For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a > Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10, > too. Hwill that work in an airport slot, as in a laptop? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
> Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have > limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB > 1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native > 54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with > original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed > 802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have > USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card > is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs. The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow. Glacially slow. For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10, too. No need to worry about Belkin's (or whomever's) card revision (most are NOT Mack-compatible, but a few of the obscure ones are) as the Mini-PCI Broadcom card comes in only one flavor, and it is Airport Extreme compatible OOTB. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Yersinia wrote: A USB adapter is just fine. In fact, I'm coming to you RIGHT NOW from my own beloved G4 Quicksilver 867, 1.5 GB RAM, and a Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter with a driver called Wireless Utility v 1.2.80u. Wireless performance of my Quicksilver with the adapter is just as good as the built-in Airport in my G4 Mini 1.5 GHz and my iBook G3/800. Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB 1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native 54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed 802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
it works fine with my FON Router atleast, don't know how to update the gfx, and iam still running 10.3.9 on this Dual 867mhz G4 with 512mb ram, but will update it to Tiger later this week > - Original message - > From: "akhoff18" > To: "G-Group" > Subject: Re: wireless for powermac g4 > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:32:12 -0800 (PST) > > >wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router, > correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router. > > another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar > with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch > movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with > an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web > surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am > running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly > so the quality is better. > > thanks! : ) > > On Jan 25, 12:10 pm, bit...@ovi.com wrote: > > i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with > > the Ralink Wireless Utility drivers :) > > > > -- > > Ovi Mail: Making email access easyhttp://mail.ovi.com > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a > group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular > focus on Power Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router, correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router. another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly so the quality is better. thanks! : ) On Jan 25, 12:10 pm, bit...@ovi.com wrote: > i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with the Ralink > Wireless Utility drivers :) > > -- > Ovi Mail: Making email access easyhttp://mail.ovi.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
On 1/25/11 11:56 AM, akhoff18 wrote: I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM) and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what type of wireless would be best for this machine. > From what I've read online it seems as though the Airport Card is the best way to go, as it was designed for this model (they are rather expensive unfortunately). However, on a recent trip to the Apple Store an employee told me I could simply buy a USB adapter for wireless and it would work just the same. I'm basically looking for a reasonably priced, yet efficient way of getting wireless for my desktop. Thanks so much! A USB adapter is just fine. In fact, I'm coming to you RIGHT NOW from my own beloved G4 Quicksilver 867, 1.5 GB RAM, and a Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter with a driver called Wireless Utility v 1.2.80u. Wireless performance of my Quicksilver with the adapter is just as good as the built-in Airport in my G4 Mini 1.5 GHz and my iBook G3/800. :-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
> I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM) > and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most > things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what > type of wireless would be best for this machine. If you want 100 percent Airport Extreme (802.11b/g) compatibility for the lowest possible cost, then the solution is available on ePrey (sic) for about US$10. First, you need a Mini-PCI (NO, not a Mini-PCI-e) Broadcom WiFi card. These cards are intended for use in Dell and similar laptops. Most of the laptop manufacturers have gone to a Mini-PCI-e WiFi card, which explains the low cost of these cards. Second, you need a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter which includes an R-SMA connector and cable. Finally, you need an R-SMA antenna. All of the above can be had for about US$10, total, although probably not all from the same seller. These products are often sold with shipping included in the price, usually shipped from Hong Kong or Singapore. I have about ten of these installed in systems. So far, no DOAs or other defects. About This Mac ... reports this system thusly: Software Versions: Menu Extra: 6.2.1 (621.1) configd plug-in: 6.2.3 (623.2) System Profiler: 6.0 (600.9) Network Preference: 6.2.1 (621.1) AirPort Utility: 5.5.2 (552.11) IO80211 Family: 3.1.2 (312) Interfaces: en0: Card Type:Third-Party Wireless Card Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 b/g Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 Current Network Information: PHY Mode: 802.11g BSSID:0:50:18:4f:51:f8 Network Type: Infrastructure Security: WPA Personal Signal / Noise: -72 dBm / -93 dBm Transmit Rate:24 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with the Ralink Wireless Utility drivers :) -- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
wireless for powermac g4
I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM) and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what type of wireless would be best for this machine. >From what I've read online it seems as though the Airport Card is the best way to go, as it was designed for this model (they are rather expensive unfortunately). However, on a recent trip to the Apple Store an employee told me I could simply buy a USB adapter for wireless and it would work just the same. I'm basically looking for a reasonably priced, yet efficient way of getting wireless for my desktop. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list