Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
Thanks Bruce - it is working just fine on OS9, I was just seeing if there was a 'fix' to pop this thing into a window in OS-X, and it doesn't look like it is possible. National Instruments does provide a developers toolkit, so one could I guess in theory write one, but it's probably not worth the effort as the ap runs just fine in OS9. The ap will not run in OS-X natively, so that is out. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
On May 11, 2011, at 11:49 PM, jsmanson wrote: The mac is a G4 Digital Audio, I have both 9.2.2 and OS-X 10.4.11. The scanner is an Optronics Colorgetter 3 plus, using a program called Colorright Pro 2.0. I have no experience with this, but a quick web search seems to indicate the Optronics Colorgetter 3 plus using Colorright Pro 2.0 works under OS 9.1, but some people have said it quit working under 9.2.2. If you can boot directly into 9.2.2 and it works, then it works, hurray! If you boot into 9.2.2 and it doesn't work, I'd hazard that you may need to downgrade back to OS 9.1, or figure out what changed between OS 9.1 and 9.2.2 that caused it to quit working. Sometimes you can substitute specific older extensions from 9.1 into 9.2.2 and get functionality from within 9.2.2 without a full-fledged downgrade to 9.1. As far as Classic under OS X, Classic does support OS 9.1, so you can run a 9.1 Classic environment if necessary, BUT, as Dan has pointed out, Classic will only work IF there are OS X hardware drivers for your card. You seem to indicate there are OS X drivers, so you need to get the hardware working while booted under OS 9.x, and then setup a Classic system using the correct OS 9.x version. Then you should be able to use Classic IF the OS X drivers work correctly. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
The color right 2.0 software runs just fine under os 9.2.2. It will not run under classic in os x10.4.? Because the application cannot communicate with the GPIB card. There are three configurations I can try here - turn off the os9 GPIB drivers, and leave the OSX drivers on, the opposite, or the option to have the drivers on in both the os9 window as well as os-x. All three configurations won't work. This is really the same scenario that the griffin folks ran into when trying to get the imate adb to USB adapter to work when using a classic application in os-x - looks like they solved the problem by having an option in the os-x driver that allows a user to select an option in the driver to allow classic to take control of the image adaptor. So that probably means that the only way to get this to work is to modify the GPIB os-x driver somehow to allow classic to control it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
And just to add to this - A National Instrument Knowlegebase acticle confirms that the GPIB card cannot be accessed from within a Classic Window in OS-X, so I know this isn't going to be striaghtforward of it can be done. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
On May 11, 2011, at 9:49 PM, jsmanson wrote: Never heard of a wedge extension, but it makes sense what you're saying - is it possoible to find one or write one for GPIB? You have to write an OS 9 driver that hands off communications to the OS X driver. At this point, just get another Mac, load it with OS 9, and run the card and scanner off of it. Network the others so you can share the output. Or just use the OS X drivers natively. Struggling to get it working in Classic mode is not worth the trouble. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
At 10:17 AM -0700 5/7/2011, jsmanson wrote: I have a scanning application that I want to run in Os9/Classic Mode. 6 days with no reply. Why? Because you haven't bothered to provide any concrete information. You don't mention what Mac hardware. Or PCI card. Or which vers of OS 9. Or which vers of OS X 10.4. Or which specific app and scanner. Or which versions of what drivers you already have... You cannot expect to get an answer on anything unless you provide appropriate environmental information in the first place. The application needs one important bit of hardware, a GPIB driver for a PCI-GPIB card. Of course, drivers are available for both OS-X 10.4, as well as OS9 for this hardware, and they work fine in their native modes, but I'm wondering what kind of tomfoolery is needed to coax those OS9 drivers to work within an OS-X 'window'. None. Classic mode is an *application* that runs as a process in OS X, that emulates the OS 9 environment. It has no special kernel access, therefore all drivers are OS X. What you need is a wedge extension for Classic that translates the app's OS 9 calls to the format required by said OS X driver. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic
Thanks Dan - Let me help with more info. The GPIB card is a national Instrument PCI-GPIB/TNT card rev K I think. The mac is a G4 Digital Audio, I have both 9.2.2 and OS-X 10.4.11. The scanner is an Optronics Colorgetter 3 plus, using a program called Colorright Pro 2.0. I'll have to dig around for the driver versions, I think the GPIB 9.2.2 version was 7.6.7, and the OS-X version 2.3?? I know I had to do a firmware upgrade on the GPIB card in order to get the card to work in OS-X, but I got it working and it passed the diagnostics tests fine. The card is configured as GPIB-0. Never heard of a wedge extension, but it makes sense what you're saying - is it possoible to find one or write one for GPIB? John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
