Re: [Gajim-devel] Proper From line in Gmail notifications

2007-05-29 Thread Yann Leboulanger
beerfan wrote:
 Ugh, sorry Yann for the repost. The list uses the sender for the from
 instead of the list address. Resending to the list.
 
 On 5/29/07, Yann Leboulanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doesn't that make a huge popup when you have many mails ?
 
 You might look at Google Talk's mail notification (if you have access
 to a Windows system) for inspiration.
 
 It works like this.
 
 Notification popup appears (in the lower right corner) showing the
 following info;
 
 +---+
 | Gmail icon Sender (name or address)  |
 | Subject: Up to 2 lines |
 |   1 / 5Body text up to 4 lines   |
 | blah blah   |
 +---+
 
 The arrow buttons below the message number allow paging back or
 forward among the unread messages but otherwise the notification will
 automatically page through unread messages once at short intervals. If
 more messages come in later and there are still unread messages, only
 new messages are notified about but the x / x number shows the total
 number of unread messages.
 
 I find Google Talks mail notifier to be the most informative and least
 intrusive that I've encountered. So much so, in fact, that I hacked
 the Gmail Notifier python program (somewhere on sf.net) to duplicate
 it exactly (so don't use Gajim's ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Chris

We can't have  and  buttons. libnotify doesn't support such things.
but about your patch, is it usable ? I mean if you have many mails
what's the result ?

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Re: [Gajim-devel] Proper From line in Gmail notifications

2007-05-29 Thread Michal Salaban
On 5/30/07, Michal Salaban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 something like this:
 http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gmail+gajim.jpg
 there are 3 conversations, 16 messages in total.

i also tried to include more information in notifications. there are
some samples how it can be done, with short comments from my side:

1.
http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-singleboxes.jpg
boxes disappear before you're able to read important information.
totally unusable for people receiving many e-mails.

2.
http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone.jpg
much better, i think. readable, but adding some text styling would
make it great, if possible at all.

3.
http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone+snippet.jpg
too much information for me. unreadable without styling (e.g. printing
snippet in italic or low-contrast).

i would go with (2), but first i'd like to see some comments :)

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Re: [Gajim-devel] Proper From line in Gmail notifications

2007-05-29 Thread beerfan
On 5/29/07, Michal Salaban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  something like this:
  http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gmail+gajim.jpg
  there are 3 conversations, 16 messages in total.

 i also tried to include more information in notifications. there are
 some samples how it can be done, with short comments from my side:

 1.
 http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-singleboxes.jpg
 boxes disappear before you're able to read important information.
 totally unusable for people receiving many e-mails.

This box is the smallest of the 3 samples. How could it be too much to
read before it goes away? I'm confused.

 2.
 http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone.jpg
 much better, i think. readable, but adding some text styling would
 make it great, if possible at all.

This is way too big, in my opinion. That would fill half my screen. I
like that you are showing more info but I think showing multiple
messages (i.e., all messages in a gmail conversation) is too much.
Showing a separate notification for each message is more scalable and
easier to quickly read.

 3.
 http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone+snippet.jpg
 too much information for me. unreadable without styling (e.g. printing
 snippet in italic or low-contrast).

Even worse than number 2.

I replied off-list to Yann's last email (accidentally but didn't
bother to repost to the list) but here's a screen capture of GTalk's
notification for reference.

http://picasaweb.google.com/beerfan/Gajim/photo#5070098207340449986

Not that I'm trying to steer Gajim towards duplicating GTalk but, for
myself, it is the XMPP client which most closely follows the same
interface philosophy which is the main reason that I prefer it.

I hope my criticisms won't discourage you though. You're on the right
track. I just think less is more.

Cheers,
Chris
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