Re: [Gajim-devel] List of proxies for file transfer
Most server reserve that to their users. And it seems gajim doesn't query an user's server about available proxy server. Or something goes wrong. I tried both Pidgin and Gajim with jabber.ru and the first one worked, it used proxy of the jabber.ru server for the file transfer according its logs. Does gajim tries to get info about available proxies from an account's server? If it does then I will try to debug what's happening in my setup. Yes Gajim discovers on every connexion if the server has a proxy, and tests it by faking a transfer. But ... It fakes a transfer from a JID that is not on your server's domain, and so the server sometimes refuse that. So Gajim consider the proxy doesn't work. That may be your problem. You can disable the tests that Gajim runs in the advanced option editor, search for test_ft_proxies_on_startup. Notifying the user doesn't sound a very good idea to me. Most users don't even know what a FT proxy is. So telling them that if they use another server that has a proxy would help won't improve things IMHO. But silently do nothing is also not an option, imho. I think the user should find at least that Use file transfer proxies setting is not available for her (e.g. grayed out). The reason can be hidden by default somewhere, but still should be available for those who are interested. The problem is that it depends on your server at the moment you connect. Gajim can't know, until you are connected and it tests all proxies if it can offer a proxy. So we can't grey the option. Displaying an error dialog to the user isn't very good because as you tested, there is no open proxy, and several servers don't have a proxy. So all users of those servers will get this error dialog without understanding it. the use_ft_proxy has to be read as "if available" -- Yann ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] List of proxies for file transfer
Hi, On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 21:19:04 +0200 Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Thanks for your tests and feedback. Sorry for a long response > If you know more open server, I'm interested. Sorry but I don't know such servers. > Most server reserve that to their users. And it seems gajim doesn't query an user's server about available proxy server. Or something goes wrong. I tried both Pidgin and Gajim with jabber.ru and the first one worked, it used proxy of the jabber.ru server for the file transfer according its logs. Does gajim tries to get info about available proxies from an account's server? If it does then I will try to debug what's happening in my setup. > Notifying the user doesn't sound a very good idea to me. > Most users don't even know what a FT proxy is. So telling them that if > they use another server that has a proxy would help won't improve things > IMHO. But silently do nothing is also not an option, imho. I think the user should find at least that Use file transfer proxies setting is not available for her (e.g. grayed out). The reason can be hidden by default somewhere, but still should be available for those who are interested. -- Regards, Anatoly ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] List of proxies for file transfer
On 06/29/2016 11:42 AM, Anatoly A. Kazantsev wrote: > Hello, > > Current Gajim has predefined list of proxies for file transfer: > > * proxy.eu.jabber.org > * proxy.jabber.ru > * proxy.jabbim.cz > > There're problems with them > > * proxy.eu.jabber.org: it seems eu.jabber.org is dead > > Response for the request from jabber.ru server: > > > http://jabber.org/protocol/bytestreams"; /> > > >xml:lang='en'> > >xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/> > > > * proxy.jabber.ru: works only for local users, so users from other > XMPP servers can't use this proxy > > Response for the same request made from my own XMPP server: > > > http://jabber.org/protocol/bytestreams"; /> > > > > > > > > > > I asked guys from supp...@conference.jabber.ru and they confirmed > that the proxy works only for the local users. > > * proxy.jabbim.cz: the only minor problem with this proxy is that its > jabber server can't connect to any XMPP servers with strong and modern > TLS settings used for the s2s connection. By this I mean the server > configuration as described at > https://blog.process-one.net/securing-ejabberd-with-tls-encryption/ > (see recommended settings). > > I think proxy.eu.jabber.org and proxy.jabber.ru should be removed from > the list. Some proxy with strong TLS settings should be added, so it > will be useful for users using such servers. > > The other problem is silence of Gajim. It doesn't report that all > proxies are not available, though Use file transfer proxies setting is > set to Yes. There should be some way to notify the user about it. > Hi, Thanks for your tests and feedback. If you know more open server, I'm interested. Most server reserve that to their users. Notifying the user doesn't sound a very good idea to me. Most users don't even know what a FT proxy is. So telling them that if they use another server that has a proxy would help won't improve things IMHO. -- Yann ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] List of proxies for file transfer
Hello, Current Gajim has predefined list of proxies for file transfer: * proxy.eu.jabber.org * proxy.jabber.ru * proxy.jabbim.cz There're problems with them * proxy.eu.jabber.org: it seems eu.jabber.org is dead Response for the request from jabber.ru server: http://jabber.org/protocol/bytestreams"; /> * proxy.jabber.ru: works only for local users, so users from other XMPP servers can't use this proxy Response for the same request made from my own XMPP server: http://jabber.org/protocol/bytestreams"; /> I asked guys from supp...@conference.jabber.ru and they confirmed that the proxy works only for the local users. * proxy.jabbim.cz: the only minor problem with this proxy is that its jabber server can't connect to any XMPP servers with strong and modern TLS settings used for the s2s connection. By this I mean the server configuration as described at https://blog.process-one.net/securing-ejabberd-with-tls-encryption/ (see recommended settings). I think proxy.eu.jabber.org and proxy.jabber.ru should be removed from the list. Some proxy with strong TLS settings should be added, so it will be useful for users using such servers. The other problem is silence of Gajim. It doesn't report that all proxies are not available, though Use file transfer proxies setting is set to Yes. There should be some way to notify the user about it. -- Regards, Anatoly ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
