Re: [galaxy-user] Cuffdiff no without replicates

2012-10-03 Thread Ross
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:11 PM, i b ibse...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 how reliable is running Cuffdiff without replicates? e.g.one samples
 agains another one?

 Is it statistically makign any difference when using replicates?

Seqanswers might be a better place to ask this very interesting
technical question that goes way beyond Galaxy...

My 2c: Statistically speaking, sequencing and biology are both noisy.
Replicates provide information about non-experimental (technical and
biological) variation. That variation is usually not the variation you
are looking for, but if you want to remove it, you have to model it
and that requires information from replicates (or really good
guesswork). In some situations (eg extreme experimental conditions),
I'm sure you'll find biologically meaningful signal without them but
in my experience, they can really help to decrease non-experimental
noise, particularly where the experimental condition induces only
subtle changes in transcript abundance.

You could always analyse a data set with replicates and compare the
results with and without those replicates yourself to see what happens
- it would be a nice paper I'm sure.


 Thanks,
 ib
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Re: [galaxy-user] Cuffdiff no without replicates

2012-10-03 Thread Sean Davis
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Ross ross.laza...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:11 PM, i b ibse...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 how reliable is running Cuffdiff without replicates? e.g.one samples
 agains another one?

 Is it statistically makign any difference when using replicates?

 Seqanswers might be a better place to ask this very interesting
 technical question that goes way beyond Galaxy...

 My 2c: Statistically speaking, sequencing and biology are both noisy.
 Replicates provide information about non-experimental (technical and
 biological) variation. That variation is usually not the variation you
 are looking for, but if you want to remove it, you have to model it
 and that requires information from replicates (or really good
 guesswork). In some situations (eg extreme experimental conditions),
 I'm sure you'll find biologically meaningful signal without them but
 in my experience, they can really help to decrease non-experimental
 noise, particularly where the experimental condition induces only
 subtle changes in transcript abundance.

 You could always analyse a data set with replicates and compare the
 results with and without those replicates yourself to see what happens
 - it would be a nice paper I'm sure.

A bit off-topic, but you might take a look here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21747377

In short, one needs replication in biology, regardless of the
technology used.  In particular, one would never suggest running a
microarray experiment without replicates; one should follow
approximately the same rules for sequencing (and sequence data
analysis).

Sean


 Thanks,
 ib
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[galaxy-user] blast tools on free public server

2012-10-03 Thread John DeFilippo
We're using the free public Galaxy server (main.g2.bx. psu.edu). We uploaded a 
genome FASTA sequence via ftp, and want to do BLAST searches (e.g., tblastn) 
against protein sequences that we've also uploaded to Galaxy, as well as on 
NCBI. BLAST tools don't show in the tools column, or when entered in the search 
box. Google searches on 'BLAST in Galaxy' bring up pages on 'wrappers' and xml, 
and we're but humble biologists. Can anyone please explain (simply, presuming 
no knowledge of wrappers, perl, python, java, scripts, xml, etc. on our part) 
how we can do this? Thank you. John D


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Re: [galaxy-user] Cannot find upload options

2012-10-03 Thread Jennifer Jackson

Hello Matina,

This wiki explains how to load data libraries as an admin:
http://wiki.g2.bx.psu.edu/Admin/Data%20Libraries/Libraries

Best,

Jen
Galaxy team

On 10/3/12 7:15 AM, Matina Fragkogianni wrote:

Hello,

I have an instance of Galaxy locally and I'm trying to upload a dataset.
I have administrator privileges and I have already created a
data library. The problem is that I want to upload a directory of files
into Galaxy but in the drop-down menu  (Upload option:) I have only
two options 1) upload files (where i can upload only one file at a time)
2) import dataset from current history. I don't have the other options
show on the wiki.
Do you have any idea what the problem might be?

I've downloaded the latest version as instructed using this command. (
hg clone https://bitbucket.org/galaxy/galaxy-dist/)


Kind Regards,
Matina


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Re: [galaxy-user] blast tools on free public server

2012-10-03 Thread Peter Cock
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, John DeFilippo defilippo.j...@gmail.com wrote:
 We're using the free public Galaxy server (main.g2.bx. psu.edu). We
 uploaded a genome FASTA sequence via ftp, and want to do BLAST searches
 (e.g., tblastn) against protein sequences that we've also uploaded to
 Galaxy, as well as on NCBI. BLAST tools don't show in the tools column, or
 when entered in the search box. Google searches on 'BLAST in Galaxy' bring
 up pages on 'wrappers' and xml, and we're but humble biologists. Can anyone
 please explain (simply, presuming no knowledge of wrappers, perl, python,
 java, scripts, xml, etc. on our part) how we can do this? Thank you. John D


Offering BLAST searches is potentially quite computationally expensive,
so for the moment at least the BLAST+ suite is not made available on
the public Galaxy hosted by Penn State (with the exception of the
megablast function offered with four databases only).

The BLAST+ wrappers are available on the Galaxy Tool Shed, and can
be installed to any local Galaxy server. They can then be run on your
local server (and ideally your local cluster). That's what we do.

If you have a Galaxy installation at your institute/department/... ask
the local Galaxy administrator about this.

Regards,

Peter
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Re: [galaxy-user] blast tools on free public server

2012-10-03 Thread Jennifer Jackson

Hello John,

To use all BLAST+ functions with Galaxy, a local or cloud instance is 
needed. The public main Galaxy instance does not host tblastn, only 
megablast (based on blastn) - and only for certain databases.


Many biologists prefer using a cloudman instance as much of the set-up 
is already packaged and it does not require an investment in local 
hardware/servers/data  tool setup. Details can be found in our wiki at:


Cloudman: http://usegalaxy.org/cloud

Local instance: http://getgalaxy.org

The best mailing list for local or cloud instance support, should you 
run into issues (or just want to follow the technical threads), is 
galaxy-...@bx.psu.edu.

http://wiki.g2.bx.psu.edu/Mailing%20Lists

Hopefully this helps!

Jen
Galaxy team

On 10/3/12 7:54 AM, John DeFilippo wrote:

We're using the free public Galaxy server (main.g2.bx. psu.edu). We uploaded a 
genome FASTA sequence via ftp, and want to do BLAST searches (e.g., tblastn) 
against protein sequences that we've also uploaded to Galaxy, as well as on 
NCBI. BLAST tools don't show in the tools column, or when entered in the search 
box. Google searches on 'BLAST in Galaxy' bring up pages on 'wrappers' and xml, 
and we're but humble biologists. Can anyone please explain (simply, presuming 
no knowledge of wrappers, perl, python, java, scripts, xml, etc. on our part) 
how we can do this? Thank you. John D


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[galaxy-user] Fastq-groomer help

2012-10-03 Thread Kshama Aswath
Hello:
I have this 20GB data that I have uploaded onto my history and trying to
get it run thr groomer. Just the first data set was uploaded yesterday and
ran groomer on it and it was not done this morning. The message indicated
taht it is still waiting to be run !!! I have 57 data sets to run and would
appreciate if you could inform me about how long it may take to even get
started or any other suggestion to get my job done will help.
Thanks so much, user name :genenart
Kshama.

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Bioinformatics and computational Biology
Prince Williams Campus
George Mason University
Manasses,VA-20110
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