Re: [galaxy-user] CloudMan - Startup Options - Galaxy Cluster vs Data Cluster

2012-01-12 Thread mailing list
Hi guys,

Another related question.  So if I need a large data set for my
program to run on, should that also be stored in GalaxyData?  What is
the best way to get the data on there?

I saw something about FTP but it seemed kind of confusing.  Also I
chose the data cluster option so I don't think I have an instance of
Galaxy running.  Is that what would do the FTP?

Thanks again,

Greg

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Dannon Baker dannonba...@me.com wrote:
 Correct to the first point.

 The space available to /mnt/galaxyTools is not configurable through the 
 interface, though you could manually resize a volume if you did need more 
 room.  /mnt/galaxyData is the volume referred to in the dialogs you're seeing.

 -Dannon

 On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:53 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Thanks.  So if I just want to run my own program that uses SGE, it
 sounds like I shouldn't need a Galaxy instance.  Is that right?

 Does the storage space parameter control how much space is at 
 /mnt/galaxyTools?

 -Greg

 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dannon Baker dannonba...@me.com wrote:
 Data Cluster only configures a persistent data volume and SGE.  Galaxy 
 Cluster includes a running Galaxy instance in addition to the persistent 
 data volume and SGE configuration components from the Data Cluster option.  
 The Galaxy Cluster option is what most users will probably want to choose.

 How much space is absolutely dependent on your needs.  Keep in mind that 
 you can increase size later if necessary via the admin UI.  The maximum 
 volume size (per an amazon limit to EBS volume size) is currently 1TB.

 -Dannon


 On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:42 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Hi guys,

 When I first go to my cloudman page at public dns/cloud I get a
 dialog asking for some settings.

 What does the Galaxy Cluster choice do?  What does the Data Cluster
 choice do?  Why can't I choose both?  How much space should I
 allocate?

 Thanks,

 Greg

 Text of dialog:

 Galaxy Cluster: Galaxy application, available tools, reference
 datasets, SGE job manager, and a data volume. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GBOK

 Share-an-Instance Cluster: derive your cluster form someone else's
 cluster. Specify the provided cluster share-string (for example,
 cm-0011923649e9271f17c4f83ba6846db0/shared/2011-08-19--21-00):
 Cluster share-string

 Data Cluster: a persistent data volume and SGE. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GB

 Test Cluster: SGE only. No persistent storage is created.
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Re: [galaxy-user] CloudMan - Startup Options - Galaxy Cluster vs Data Cluster

2012-01-12 Thread Dannon Baker
Yes, galaxyData is the only persistent volume you have in your data only 
cluster, so everything should go there.  SCP should work for getting data 
there, unless the file is already hosted somewhere in which case wget is 
probably a better choice.

And yes, FTP is configured specifically for Galaxy uploads and is unavailable 
in the case of a non-galaxy cluster.  The usernames used for logging in, etc, 
come straight from the Galaxy database.

On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:56 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 Another related question.  So if I need a large data set for my
 program to run on, should that also be stored in GalaxyData?  What is
 the best way to get the data on there?
 
 I saw something about FTP but it seemed kind of confusing.  Also I
 chose the data cluster option so I don't think I have an instance of
 Galaxy running.  Is that what would do the FTP?
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Greg

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Re: [galaxy-user] CloudMan - Startup Options - Galaxy Cluster vs Data Cluster

2012-01-12 Thread mailing list
Ok, yeah, SCP does make sense.  Thanks.

-Greg

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Dannon Baker dannonba...@me.com wrote:
 Yes, galaxyData is the only persistent volume you have in your data only 
 cluster, so everything should go there.  SCP should work for getting data 
 there, unless the file is already hosted somewhere in which case wget is 
 probably a better choice.

 And yes, FTP is configured specifically for Galaxy uploads and is unavailable 
 in the case of a non-galaxy cluster.  The usernames used for logging in, etc, 
 come straight from the Galaxy database.

 On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:56 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Another related question.  So if I need a large data set for my
 program to run on, should that also be stored in GalaxyData?  What is
 the best way to get the data on there?

 I saw something about FTP but it seemed kind of confusing.  Also I
 chose the data cluster option so I don't think I have an instance of
 Galaxy running.  Is that what would do the FTP?

 Thanks again,

 Greg


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Re: [galaxy-user] CloudMan - Startup Options - Galaxy Cluster vs Data Cluster

2012-01-10 Thread mailing list
Thanks.  So if I just want to run my own program that uses SGE, it
sounds like I shouldn't need a Galaxy instance.  Is that right?

Does the storage space parameter control how much space is at /mnt/galaxyTools?

-Greg

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dannon Baker dannonba...@me.com wrote:
 Data Cluster only configures a persistent data volume and SGE.  Galaxy 
 Cluster includes a running Galaxy instance in addition to the persistent data 
 volume and SGE configuration components from the Data Cluster option.  The 
 Galaxy Cluster option is what most users will probably want to choose.

 How much space is absolutely dependent on your needs.  Keep in mind that you 
 can increase size later if necessary via the admin UI.  The maximum volume 
 size (per an amazon limit to EBS volume size) is currently 1TB.

 -Dannon


 On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:42 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Hi guys,

 When I first go to my cloudman page at public dns/cloud I get a
 dialog asking for some settings.

 What does the Galaxy Cluster choice do?  What does the Data Cluster
 choice do?  Why can't I choose both?  How much space should I
 allocate?

 Thanks,

 Greg

 Text of dialog:

 Galaxy Cluster: Galaxy application, available tools, reference
 datasets, SGE job manager, and a data volume. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GBOK

 Share-an-Instance Cluster: derive your cluster form someone else's
 cluster. Specify the provided cluster share-string (for example,
 cm-0011923649e9271f17c4f83ba6846db0/shared/2011-08-19--21-00):
 Cluster share-string

 Data Cluster: a persistent data volume and SGE. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GB

 Test Cluster: SGE only. No persistent storage is created.
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Re: [galaxy-user] CloudMan - Startup Options - Galaxy Cluster vs Data Cluster

2012-01-10 Thread Dannon Baker
Correct to the first point.

The space available to /mnt/galaxyTools is not configurable through the 
interface, though you could manually resize a volume if you did need more room. 
 /mnt/galaxyData is the volume referred to in the dialogs you're seeing.

-Dannon

On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:53 PM, mailing list wrote:

 Thanks.  So if I just want to run my own program that uses SGE, it
 sounds like I shouldn't need a Galaxy instance.  Is that right?
 
 Does the storage space parameter control how much space is at 
 /mnt/galaxyTools?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dannon Baker dannonba...@me.com wrote:
 Data Cluster only configures a persistent data volume and SGE.  Galaxy 
 Cluster includes a running Galaxy instance in addition to the persistent 
 data volume and SGE configuration components from the Data Cluster option.  
 The Galaxy Cluster option is what most users will probably want to choose.
 
 How much space is absolutely dependent on your needs.  Keep in mind that you 
 can increase size later if necessary via the admin UI.  The maximum volume 
 size (per an amazon limit to EBS volume size) is currently 1TB.
 
 -Dannon
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:42 PM, mailing list wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 When I first go to my cloudman page at public dns/cloud I get a
 dialog asking for some settings.
 
 What does the Galaxy Cluster choice do?  What does the Data Cluster
 choice do?  Why can't I choose both?  How much space should I
 allocate?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Greg
 
 Text of dialog:
 
 Galaxy Cluster: Galaxy application, available tools, reference
 datasets, SGE job manager, and a data volume. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GBOK
 
 Share-an-Instance Cluster: derive your cluster form someone else's
 cluster. Specify the provided cluster share-string (for example,
 cm-0011923649e9271f17c4f83ba6846db0/shared/2011-08-19--21-00):
 Cluster share-string
 
 Data Cluster: a persistent data volume and SGE. Specify the initial
 storage size (in Gigabytes):
 GB
 
 Test Cluster: SGE only. No persistent storage is created.
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