Hi.
My phone is the motorola X, so far I think it is my favorite phone of
all the ones I've tried.
Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable
On 11/13/2013 4:33 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Nick,
I appreciate your take on the Android verses iOS debate. For the most
part I agree for someone
Hi.
This is reopening an old topic, but one encouraging sign is that
Android 4.0 and newer are becoming both standard and cheap. For an
example, it used to be super easy to find stuff running older versions
of Android, but now everyone's selling tablets and such with newer
versions, again 4.0 and
Hi Dakotah:
Yes, that is quite true. While I have been out Christmas shopping I
have been looking at Android phones and tablets, and all of the ones I
have seen are running at least 4.1 and later on them. Many have 4.3
which is a very good starting place for a blind Android user. So I'd
say by
Android is really starting to get a good bit of momentum behind it in
terms of accessibility and interesting accessible titles. The problem
is, you're really only going to see those for a bit on really good
phones or nexus devices.
That's why, in my opinion, getting an iPhone is your best bet, if
Hi Dakotah,
That's interesting. Only problem is I won't be able to take advantage
of any Black Friday sales this year. Before my ex left me she cleaned
out our bank accounts leaving me penniless, and I had to take out a
loan for an attorney to represent me in the divorce and child custody
Good grief, that's terrible
Amanda
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Hi Dakotah,
That's
Hi Tom.
Well I've mentioned the things I personally like about he Iphone, however I
do see the point, and even for me as a windows user I frankly find Itunes
very annoying, simply because all the careful file organization I've done of
my books and music collection over the last few years,
Hi Tom.
that's fair enough, as I said I have used my Iphone for some of those
particular things albeit I haven't used the ocr system yet, since generally
I've worked things out so that all my most important mail from say the
university, the health serviceor my telephone company gets delivered
: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Jacob,
Thanks for the info. I heard that There was an easy way to disable and
enable Talkback on modern Android devices, and it is nice to have that
confirmed. I also heard with Android 4.3 and higher a person is
suppose to hold down two fingers on the home
the place!
BEware the Grue!
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Dark, you can move the GameCenter icon
Hi Dark,
Well, while I do agree that buying an iPhone is for the most part more
pros than cons there are a couple of cons that I feel are pretty
major.
The first is the use of iTunes to transfer software, music, etc to the
iPhone itself. Well, there is a version of iTunes for Windows and a
Hi Cara,
Correct. Kitcat is being rolled out on various tablets, and then will
be available for smartphone users by early next year. At least that is
what I have heard.
Cheers!
On 11/13/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I believe KitKat is being rolled out now on
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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:53 PM
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Hi Dark,
Well, while I do agree that buying an iPhone is for the most part more
pros than cons there are a couple of cons that I feel are pretty
major.
The first
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Hi Dark, yes, I agree that moving icons can be a bit fiddly, for
different
reasons though. :)
There is a heck of a delay at this point before
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Hi Dark, yes, I agree that moving icons can be a bit fiddly, for different
reasons though. :)
There is a heck of a delay at this point before
Hi Nick,
I appreciate your take on the Android verses iOS debate. For the most
part I agree for someone like me investing into both platforms
eventually would be the best thing from a business oriented point of
view. Right now though I just need an accessible phone, and because I
am going through
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 03:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Ok. I'm grabbing onto this topic a bit late, but here goes.
I have used an iPhone 5 for a year
Hi Jacob,
Thanks for the info. I heard that There was an easy way to disable and
enable Talkback on modern Android devices, and it is nice to have that
confirmed. I also heard with Android 4.3 and higher a person is
suppose to hold down two fingers on the home button when the device is
turned on
Hi Decota.
I've not confirmed this myself, but people on the audiogames.net site do
mention having contacted Apple customer services after perchicing an
inaccessible ap and getting a refund. It's true that this is informal rather
than an instant process, but apparently unless the customer
Hi Decota.
I find this an interesting summation, and I've actually been talking to the
developers of startraders to fix their mapping system, (as well as about
access in their other games), so that the game is fully accessible on both
platforms.
One question I have however is regarding your
Hi Tom.
I'm sorry to hear about the devorce and appreciate the trouble, it's a shame
that osmehting which is already emotionally difficult has to come with such
a lot of financial issues.
Of course, if your looking for an accessible phone just as an accessible
phone that's fair enough.
I
Hi Dark,
Well, of course having an accessible phone just to have a decent phone
is only half of it. Obviously, since I am looking at smartphones I am
hoping to get a few extras like the ability to listen to Internet
radio, watch Youtube videos on the go, maybe play a few games, and
generally have
Hi Dark,
Well, I think he was talking about getting a Nexus more or less as a
tech toy to play with rather than getting more games so on. From what
I have researched there are games for Android, but definitely nowhere
the quantity available for iOS.
Based on my own personal experiences I think
HI dakotah,
You actually can get refunds for inaccessible apps from the Apple App Store as
well.
the diff is that you need to contact them to let them know that the app is
inaccessible, which isn't necessarily a bad thing since they'll then know about
the app and can address any VO issues
Hi Thomas,
I believe KitKat is being rolled out now on some Nexus devices, with cellular
devices soon.
Smiles,
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Hi Thomas,
I'll only speak for myself here; you've mentioned wanting to expand your game
development which has always been focused on USA Games so yes, I did think you
wanted to move to Android in that context.
If not, then definitely, by all means go for it! Since you will know exactly
what
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Dark, you can move the GameCenter icon anywhere you like on any page.
You move it just like any other icon.
Smiles
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Dark, yes, I agree that moving icons can be a bit fiddly, for different
reasons though. :)
There is a heck of a delay at this point before the icon actually switches
pages. I find
Hi Jacob,
Thanks for that information. I heard Android could run Python apps,
and I wonder if that is better than running Java based apps.
Cheers!
On 11/9/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
Thomas, here's the developer page on the playstore for what are meant to be
some accessible
Hi Dark,
Hmm...Honestly I don't know either. I only spent a few minutes looking
at each, comparing them, so my experience in comparing iPhone to
Android is rather limited in comparison to someone who uses one on a
daily basis. I'm pretty sure that the iPhone probably is a bit better
in terms
Hi Jacob,
That would be great. I'm actually very skilled at Java, am a certified
Java developer, so I'd enjoy the Colossal Cave source code as that
might help give me some programming ideas for developing accessible
games for Android in the future. As I understand it the Java JVM on
Android is
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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 05:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Ryan,
I
Hi Cara,
Point well taken. I guess right now I am just looking for something
for myself. You know what I mean?
If I could develop games and apps for Android to sell that would be
great, but that is not my goal here so support issues really is not
that big a concern. I figure whatever I write
Hi Cara,
I guess my issue is what if someone isn't concerned about creating a
sustainable business for creating apps and games for Android. What if
the person merely wants a phone to use for personal use, and perhaps
want to develop something for non-commercial use for himself?
I guess that is
Hi Charles,
No, not really. With Android Google has been slow to implement
accessibility on their OS and the manufacturers like LG, Motorola, and
Samsung have been slower still to adopt newer versions of Droid OS and
Talk back on their phones making Android a vastly different end user
experience
.
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Hi Dark, yes, I agree that moving icons can be a bit fiddly, for different
reasons
Hi Shaun,
Well, I had heard the Nexus was suppose to be the best Android phone
in terms of updates and accessibility, but as I have not personally
tried one I can not confirm that. Either way, that's beside the point.
I was asking about accessible games not which Android phone would be
the best
Hi Ryan,
I really appreciate your detailed post. That's the kind of information
I'd like to hear from people such as yourself who have and do use
both. However, are there any accessible games for Android or is
accessible games almost exclusively for iOS right now?
Cheers!
On 11/9/13, Ryan
Thomas was talking about developing Android games. One of the reasons
that there aren't as many accessible Android games as there are IOS
games is that the emulaters that developers use to write these games are
extremely sloow. John has been playing with one and is frustrated
with it.
Hi Dark,
Thanks for answering my question directly. It does seem at this point
if I want games etc an iPhone is a better choice, but I really hate
the idea of paying nearly double for the phone plus all the money for
hardware and software to develop anything I want for it.
Cheers!
On 11/8/13,
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Ryan,
I really appreciate your detailed post. That's the kind of information
I'd like to hear from people such as yourself who have and do use
both. However, are there any accessible games for Android or is
accessible games
Hi Eleanor,
Thanks for that insightful post. I had heard that developing apps and
games for Android could be difficult, something to do with different
jvm implementations, but I had no idea that it was that frustrating
and complicated. I am reading a guide right now, and the author made
no
Well Tom I can't comment on the development angle, but one thing I will say
about the Iphone is I've been surprised just how many things it has prooved
useful for just through it's default functions.
Siri for example I've found great as a note taker, if a person tells me some
information I
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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:32 PM
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Well Tom I can't comment on the development angle, but one thing I will
say about the Iphone is I've been surprised just how many things
Thomas,
another thing to consider is the level of accessibility features that any given
user will have, based on the OS they are running.
I.E. one user may be running android 4.4 and another user may be running
something considerably earlier than that. Both may be usable but not equal in
, November 09, 2013 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Thomas,
another thing to consider is the level of accessibility features that any
given user will have, based on the OS they are running.
I.E. one user may be running android 4.4 and another user may be running
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Thomas,
another thing to consider is the level of accessibility features that any given
user will have, based on the OS they are running.
I.E. one user may be running android 4.4 and another user may
It does. Thanks.
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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Charlse
I know the Iphone has the ability to group aps into folders, I just find
the process of dragging an iCon around the screen until I find what I want
it to hit to be a pest, even if I take note of the previous iCon's grid
position it still doesn't seem that smooth, especially
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Charlse
I know the Iphone has the ability to group aps into folders, I just find
the process of dragging an iCon around the screen until I find what I want
it to hit to be a pest, even if I take
Dark, you can move the GameCenter icon anywhere you like on any page.
You move it just like any other icon.
Smiles,
Cara :)
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Dark, you can move the GameCenter icon anywhere you like on any page
Hello everyone,
I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far
I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple
iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were
arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hello everyone,
I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far
I think in many ways I personally
to
the iPhone.
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hello
Hi Charles,
Yes, I have heard that too, but my personal experience with testing
the Android devices hands on is that accessibility is very good now.
There is very little that I could not do on the Android phone that I
could do on an iPhone. Keep in mind here that accessibility on Android
is
08, 2013 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Charles,
Yes, I have heard that too, but my personal experience with testing
the Android devices hands on is that accessibility is very good now.
There is very little that I could not do on the Android phone that I
could do
Hi Charles,
That's for sure. Smartphone access has improved all across the board,
and now days it is likely a blind customer can walk into any store and
purchase an accessible smartphone from just about any manufacturer.
Apple's iOS is accessible, most Android phones running Google Android
4.0 or
Well with things as they are people are pointing at the lg nexus phones.
At 09:23 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far
I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple
iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch
to an Android, then back
to the iPhone.
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible
Hi tom.
This issue has come up recently on the audiogames forum, so I'll pass on the
info I know.
Stem stumper, several games from vipgameszone, all the choiceof games and a
game called droid flip are the ones I know though there may be more.
However, Ios still has the lion's share of
well,someone who has a perspective on both platform, as I have an
Iphone 5, and a nexus7 tablet, I can definitely say, I have no issues
with the android side of things, the accessibility has improved to
where it has alost comes to completely match Voice over on the Iphone,
and I too would love to
Tom,
I'm going to touch on just one facet of your post, but I think it's a pretty
major one.
Quote:
to be honest I think what has happened here is that Apple got to the
accessibility first. All the blind users ran out, purchased Apple
iPhones, and now any time someone goes looking for a
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