Re: [Audyssey] earphones
Hello Chris. Bluetooth is better than infrared simply because it's more secure and the range is much greater. Also, signals of bluetooth are not line of sight like infrared signals. Bluetooth is a little more expensive but well worth it IMHO. I'I have a pair of wireless Sony headphones which I am not using which I'd be willing to sell for $20.00. Originally they were $100. I don't have all the specs on them but they are very good, no microphone, just headphones and they cary pretty good bass. As far the bluetooth wireless keyboards, the Microsoft natural media keyboards are really good. I've seen them brand new on ebay for around $50 or $60. Retail they can go for $100. There is a giration wireless keyboard which sells for around $200 and it has a range of 300 or so feet and the signal can travel through walls. A friend of mind who has one of these in combination with a radio fm transmitter uses it to play games on his computer from the courtyard of his apartment. Good luck. -- Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly. -- 2 Kings 1:11 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry?
ah sounds good. I like having a portion of a game free so that I can see whether I like it or not. Thanks Jen Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry?
Hi Jen, The ground floor of the castle is free. For the other 13 levels of the castle, I am thinking of charging $30. Phil - Original Message - From: "Jen Karns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry? > Hi > Thanks for the update. When you do post the game, how > much will it cost, or is it going to be free. > Thanks > > Jen > > --- Phil Vlasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Jen, >> I had to take down the beta to make room for the >> full game. >> It is going to the beta testers first to make sure >> there are no critical >> bugs, then I will post it to my web site. >> I can not tell you how long this will take as it has >> not been tested yet. >> Phil >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jen Karns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:47 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of >> witchcraft and wizzardry? >> >> >> > Hi, >> > Was the public baita taken down from pcsgames? If >> so, >> > where can I get a copy? >> > Thank in advance >> > >> > Jen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > __ >> > Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more >> powerful email and get >> > things done faster. >> > (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> > To unsubscribe send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> > visit >> > >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org >> to make >> > any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org >> to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] earphones
Hi. I have a laptop and am trying to get some good games on it. Was wondering what wireless headphones would work best with 3d games audioscape? Also, would bluetooth or wireless be cheaper? Why have one over the other? I don't have loads of cash but I'm tired of the cats messing with the cord and I want to go portable so I can play games everywhere including bed. Thanks, Chris ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry?
Hi Thanks for the update. When you do post the game, how much will it cost, or is it going to be free. Thanks Jen --- Phil Vlasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jen, > I had to take down the beta to make room for the > full game. > It is going to the beta testers first to make sure > there are no critical > bugs, then I will post it to my web site. > I can not tell you how long this will take as it has > not been tested yet. > Phil > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Jen Karns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:47 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of > witchcraft and wizzardry? > > > > Hi, > > Was the public baita taken down from pcsgames? If > so, > > where can I get a copy? > > Thank in advance > > > > Jen > > > > > > > > > __ > > Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more > powerful email and get > > things done faster. > > (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org > to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org > to make > any subscription changes via the web. > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] note about audyssey.org site
Hi. Just letting everyone know that the www.audyssey.org page has been updated. I changed some of the wording around and added the Magazine announce list link to the page. The Magazine Announce list is a list which is outgoing only. No discussions happen, so it's a very low traffic list. This is good for those who want to get the magazine. Since the magazine is already posted here as well I don't see a reason to be subscribed to both. However, the magazine list is perfect for those who still want to read the magazine when it comes out but who do not want to be a part of the discussion list. As time allows I'll start adding more content. Cheers. -- My foot standeth in an even place: in the congregations will I bless the LORD. -- Psalms 26:12 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry?
Hi Jen, I had to take down the beta to make room for the full game. It is going to the beta testers first to make sure there are no critical bugs, then I will post it to my web site. I can not tell you how long this will take as it has not been tested yet. Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jen Karns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry? > Hi, > Was the public baita taken down from pcsgames? If so, > where can I get a copy? > Thank in advance > > Jen > > > > __ > Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get > things done faster. > (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients
Hi Adam, GMud32 is found at http://gutterstar.net/id35.htm or you can use Monkey Term found at http://www.randylaptop.com/mudding/client.php The second site is a real good resource for mudding. Any other help needed just write. Rich - Original Message - From: Adam Pecillo To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients Hey, What mud clients are there out there that work well with screenreaders and braille displays? Regards, Adam aka Zaphod http://wormhole.se ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft opinion
hi chris, thats the norm for beta testers, you get a free copy. - Original Message - From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "gamers" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft opinion >I worked with bavisoft when I got grizzly gultch. I used a internet over >phone service which is not there now...they'd personally research stuff for >you, it was pretty cool. Unfortunately they gave me the owner, Jeff, cell >phone. > So I called him at home and he liked me enough he gave me a free copy. > So I felt they had good customer service. But their titles aren't > spectacular. > Chris > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
I think this is definitely a valid beef you have against them. It's sad, sometimes people slip through the cracks. Perhaps they could not respond, or perhaps they did but you never got the response, No one can really know for sure. * Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 16:06]: > It's not the waiting for the new titles that gets to me, it's the > fact they didn't answer my query about my hearing problem. > You know what word of mouth is like, you tell people of your > experiences, that message gets past along to the next one and the > next and the next etc, then people will feel less inclined to buy from them. -- Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates. -- Proverbs 31:31 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft opinion
Hi Chris. This is good to hear. Unfortunately, many people have different experiences with a company and that clouds their judgment. As someone said before, when someone is unhappy how they were treated, the news can easily spread. It's simple human nature to spread the bad a lot more than the good. As I've said before. I've not had dealings with Bavisoft so cannot comment either way on whether their customer service is good or not.So, everything I say is from an outsider's point of view and opinions which I have due to experience with other companies, not all of them game related. * Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 16:32]: > I worked with bavisoft when I got grizzly gultch. I used a internet over > phone service which is not there now...they'd personally research stuff for > you, it was pretty cool. Unfortunately they gave me the owner, Jeff, cell > phone. > So I called him at home and he liked me enough he gave me a free copy. > So I felt they had good customer service. But their titles aren't > spectacular. > Chris -- She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. -- John 8:11 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
O yeah that is pretty funny! I won't tell what happens though. Mewhahahahahaha! - Original Message - From: "Lisa Leonardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 Hi, all. I just bought pipe2 within the last few days, and I love it. I found something kind of funny, quite by accident. I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but you should try pressing the spacebar when you encounter a trash can in the side scroller levels. Lisa ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizzardry?
Hi, Was the public baita taken down from pcsgames? If so, where can I get a copy? Thank in advance Jen __ Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] bavisoft opinion
I worked with bavisoft when I got grizzly gultch. I used a internet over phone service which is not there now...they'd personally research stuff for you, it was pretty cool. Unfortunately they gave me the owner, Jeff, cell phone. So I called him at home and he liked me enough he gave me a free copy. So I felt they had good customer service. But their titles aren't spectacular. Chris ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Yes, but you have the use of both ears where as I don't. So you right to support and get nothing in return. To the average joe that says a lot about the way they do business. At 02:10 AM 4/11/2006, you wrote: >Because they're not frauds. >Raul very clearly defines what a fraud actually is. >Charging for services or products and not delivering is fraudulent. >However, taking three years to make a new product isn't fraudulent, it's >just well. It's kind of ridiculous. >I have not had a problem with chillingham, so have not had to write to >support. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] heads up on programming
To all that do not read the tidbits newsletter. www.empowermentzone/cnetdoc.zip Its a converted bunch of manuals for c# and its 10mb I havn't doodled with it yet, however you may be intrested if you are going to get the vstudio express. also www.empowermentzone.com/palsetup.exe is a good editor, damon of x site recomended it and its quite nifty. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
It's not the waiting for the new titles that gets to me, it's the fact they didn't answer my query about my hearing problem. You know what word of mouth is like, you tell people of your experiences, that message gets past along to the next one and the next and the next etc, then people will feel less inclined to buy from them. At 12:37 AM 4/11/2006, you wrote: >Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud >they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm >trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the >firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to >release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do >agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for >them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before >we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that >the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the >overall mediocrity of their titles. >- Original Message - >From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > bavisoft is a joke. > > Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their > > lack > > of good service. > > Brandon > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > > >> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games > >> that, > >> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > >> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > >> for > >> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > >> which, > >> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > >> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > >> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > >> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > >> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > >> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > >> bit > >> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > >> you > >> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > >> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > >> years. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > >> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > >> > >> > >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > >>> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > >>> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > >>> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > >>> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > >>> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > >>> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games > >>> etc. > >>> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > >>> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > >>> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > >>> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > >>> over a year ago. > >>> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > >>> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play > >>> it. > >>> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > >>> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >>> visit > >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >>> any subscription changes via the web. > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >> visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > >_
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Once I thought they could be. However after I heard you couldn't install the cds fully, and other user problems, support things and the price I doubt I'd ever concider buying them. If someone let me borrow a coppy for a couple weeks I may clock it and hand it back but thats probably about the end of it. At 03:51 AM 11/4/2006, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >At least they are not taking pre-orders and then not delivering. That >would be fraudulent. They just take a long time. Knowing this and the >fact their games are not attractive to me is enough for me to not buy >their games. > > >* x-sight interactive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 07:45]: >> i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use >> c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, >> which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they >> have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's >> going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. > > >-- >Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither >the feet of the ox and the ass. >-- Isaiah 32:20 >Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
hmm. Its on audiogames.net You get the following. "oh look there is dan's source code in the trash and its full of bugs!" you will here some bees or flies in the background. Its a laugh. At 07:34 AM 11/4/2006, Richard Bennett wrote: >hey ya'll well what does it do for those of us who don't have Pipe 2? I >don't have Pipe 2 and would like to know what is funny. Hope everyone is >having a great day. >BEAN > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
As a developer, things usually go smoothly till something pops up, like with Judgment day. I wanted it out September first, then school and personal life came along. And the games take a back seat. The one nice thing is, it's given me more time to go back and refine some systems in the game and make them work better. Sometimes the delay is worth it. And sometimes it's not. -Original Message- From: david [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service That is why you shouldn't plan release dates and tell the public. It's just a lot of trouble for the dev when you don't have anything to release on time. I'm not a programmer myself, but I have listened and I know that much. If I ever do write a game, I will not guarantee anything until I am 100% certain I can keep my promises. > - Original Message - >From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:33:28 - >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they >use >c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, >which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they >say they have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell >us what's going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. >that's just my opinion, i'm not that impatient, but i can understand >both sides. >regards, >damien >- Original Message - >From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:37 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a >> fraud they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or >> Chillingham. I'm trying to prove a point here. It took four years >> for them to release the firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it >> shouldn't take another four >to >> release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and >> whileI >do >> agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well >> for them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two >> years >before >> we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree >> that the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous >> considering the overall mediocrity of their titles. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >>> bavisoft is a joke. >>> Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of >>> their lack of good service. >>> Brandon >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really >make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than >we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are >a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually >require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after >two years. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just > thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right > ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is > pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing > an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or > playing adventure >games >
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
That is why you shouldn't plan release dates and tell the public. It's just a lot of trouble for the dev when you don't have anything to release on time. I'm not a programmer myself, but I have listened and I know that much. If I ever do write a game, I will not guarantee anything until I am 100% certain I can keep my promises. > - Original Message - >From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:33:28 - >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use >c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, >which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they >have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's >going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. >that's just my opinion, i'm not that impatient, but i can understand both >sides. >regards, >damien >- Original Message - >From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:37 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud >> they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm >> trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the >> firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four >to >> release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI >do >> agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for >> them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years >before >> we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that >> the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the >> overall mediocrity of their titles. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >>> bavisoft is a joke. >>> Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their >>> lack >>> of good service. >>> Brandon >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really >make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than >we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are >a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually >require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after >two years. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure >games > etc. > I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > over a year ago. > As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play > it. > Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
Except that you don't get that little easter egg in the demo. That's only in the full version. - Original Message - From: "will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 > hi > > downlaod the demo and find out, smile > you get some interesting dialogue, smile > that all is ay > will > > - Original Message - > From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 > > >> hey ya'll well what does it do for those of us who don't have Pipe 2? I >> don't have Pipe 2 and would like to know what is funny. Hope everyone is >> having a great day. >> BEAN >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
Ok, I'll tell you. For those of you who don'twant it spoiled, this is s p o i l e r You're supposed to press the up arrow to retrieve whatever is in the trash can. I pressed the spacebar on accident, and heard something like "Oh, so this is how Justin feeds his family." I tried it again and heard something referring to a programmer and the program being full of bugs. Personally, the first one is what really made me laugh. Lisa - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 > hey ya'll well what does it do for those of us who don't have Pipe 2? I > don't have Pipe 2 and would like to know what is funny. Hope everyone is > having a great day. > BEAN > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
I've done that. It's definitely worth a few laughs. - Original Message - From: "Lisa Leonardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 > Hi, all. > > I just bought pipe2 within the last few days, and I love it. > I found something kind of funny, quite by accident. I don't know if anyone > has noticed this or not, but you should try pressing the spacebar when you > encounter a trash can in the side scroller levels. > > Lisa > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
hi downlaod the demo and find out, smile you get some interesting dialogue, smile that all is ay will - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2 > hey ya'll well what does it do for those of us who don't have Pipe 2? I > don't have Pipe 2 and would like to know what is funny. Hope everyone is > having a great day. > BEAN > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
hey ya'll well what does it do for those of us who don't have Pipe 2? I don't have Pipe 2 and would like to know what is funny. Hope everyone is having a great day. BEAN ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] funny thing in pipe2
Hi, all. I just bought pipe2 within the last few days, and I love it. I found something kind of funny, quite by accident. I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but you should try pressing the spacebar when you encounter a trash can in the side scroller levels. Lisa ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients
For info on monkey term go to: www.aarontech.randylaptop.com I love monkeyterm! Lisa - Original Message - From: "Cary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients > GMud works pretty good from what I'm told, and there are Jaws scripts > available I'm just not sure where. Someone else might be able to provide > that info for you. Also, MonkeyTerm works relatively well with Jaws and > there are also scripts for that available and wouldn't you know it, I > can't > remember where they're located, either. Sorry for not being much help. > lol > -Cary > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Pecillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:36 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients > > >> Hey, >> >> What mud clients are there out there that work well with screenreaders >> and braille displays? >> >> Regards, >> Adam aka Zaphod >> http://wormhole.se >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
I was simply stating a fact about what you said regarding them being
frauds. I'm not telling you what to do. In the comment I made which was,
word for word:
> If you
> don't like their customer service style then don't do business with
> them. If you feel they wait too long between titles, then get someone
> else's titles.
>
This comment was meant as figuritive "you", not you personally. You, as
in anyone reading the message. Believe me, I don't tell others who to do
business with. I'm simply saying for clerity's sake. If anyone does not
like the way a company does business, then don't do business with them.
No one forces you, us, everyone, what ever, to do business with
companies. That is all I'm saying. As for your statement regarding if I
don't do business with them then what gives me the right to say
anything? Well, it's simple. I have a choice. I choose to not do
business with them based on what I've said in other messages. Their
games have little replay value, I don't like their prices, and I don't
care for their style of games. That gives me the right.
One last note: Definition of fraud: which BTW I don't feel applies to
this company.
>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48
[gcide]:
Fraud \Fraud\ (fr[add]d), n. [F. fraude, L. fraus, fraudis;
prob. akin to Skr. dh[=u]rv to injure, dhv[.r] to cause to
fall, and E. dull.]
1. Deception deliberately practiced with a view to gaining an
unlawful or unfair advantage; artifice by which the right
or interest of another is injured; injurious stratagem;
deceit; trick.
[1913 Webster]
2. (Law) An intentional perversion of truth for the purpose
of obtaining some valuable thing or promise from another.
[1913 Webster]
3. A trap or snare. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]
Syn: Deception; deceit; guile; craft; wile; sham; strife;
circumvention; stratagem; trick; imposition; cheat. See
{Deception}.
[1913 Webster]
>From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:
fraud
n 1: intentional deception resulting in injury to another person
2: a person who makes deceitful pretenses [syn: {imposter},
{impostor},
{pretender}, {fake}, {faker}, {sham}, {shammer}, {pseudo},
{pseud}, {role player}]
3: something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended
to gain an advantage [syn: {fraudulence}, {dupery}, {hoax},
{humbug}, {put-on}]
* Brandon armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 08:05]:
> if you don't do business with them, then what gives you the right to tell me
> to do otherwise and say they aren't frauds?
> I agree with the person who runs x site interactive, if they have a target
> date set and don't let us know about what's going on with the game, then
> people are not going to trust them much longer and lose their tempers.
> Just thought I'd reply to this.
> Brandon
--
For our fathers have trespassed, and done that which was evil in
the eyes of the LORD our God, and have forsaken him, and have turned
away their faces from the habitation of the LORD, and turned their
backs.
-- 2 Chronicles 29:6
Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc
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Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Because they're not frauds. Raul very clearly defines what a fraud actually is. Charging for services or products and not delivering is fraudulent. However, taking three years to make a new product isn't fraudulent, it's just well. It's kind of ridiculous. I have not had a problem with chillingham, so have not had to write to support. -Original Message- From: Brandon armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service if you don't do business with them, then what gives you the right to tell me to do otherwise and say they aren't frauds? I agree with the person who runs x site interactive, if they have a target date set and don't let us know about what's going on with the game, then people are not going to trust them much longer and lose their tempers. Just thought I'd reply to this. Brandon - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I don't think they are a fraud. Just because you may not agree with > their style of customer service or the frequency of new games have > they actually made themselves to be a fraud? If I went on that basis, > I could easily say that hundreds of companies are frauds. Take > Microsoft for example. I don't agree with their customer service. Take > Panasonic, I think they charge too much for some of their basic > cordless multi-station phones. But they are not frauds. This company > here has not stollen money from people. They have delivered their > products. If you don't like their customer service style then don't do > business with them. If you feel they wait too long between titles, > then get someone else's titles. > > Personally, I have never purchased their games, nor delt with them, > but that is only because their games do not attract me. I felt they > are like a text adventure with sounds and menus, but that is my > opinion. I have a choice, and I choose not to do business with them, > but again, they are not frauds. > > * Brandon armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 04:33]: >>bavisoft is a joke. >>Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their >>lack of good service. > > > - -- > I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who > are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden. > -- Zephaniah 3:18 > Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFS1b0i7Fom/O+pV8RAg4WAJ9Qht9CKB1/ez3+9xjCp/BEwTmbZQCggMRc > XoTI30VHchk++6k3jBOLu2M= > =l7AG > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 1.1659 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
if you don't do business with them, then what gives you the right to tell me to do otherwise and say they aren't frauds? I agree with the person who runs x site interactive, if they have a target date set and don't let us know about what's going on with the game, then people are not going to trust them much longer and lose their tempers. Just thought I'd reply to this. Brandon - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I don't think they are a fraud. Just because you may not agree with > their style of customer service or the frequency of new games have they > actually made themselves to be a fraud? If I went on that basis, I could > easily say that hundreds of companies are frauds. Take Microsoft for > example. I don't agree with their customer service. Take Panasonic, I > think they charge too much for some of their basic cordless > multi-station phones. But they are not frauds. This company here has not > stollen money from people. They have delivered their products. If you > don't like their customer service style then don't do business with > them. If you feel they wait too long between titles, then get someone > else's titles. > > Personally, I have never purchased their games, nor delt with them, but > that is only because their games do not attract me. I felt they are like > a text adventure with sounds and menus, but that is my opinion. I have a > choice, and I choose not to do business with them, but again, they are > not frauds. > > * Brandon armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 04:33]: >>bavisoft is a joke. >>Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their >>lack >>of good service. > > > - -- > I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who > are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden. > -- Zephaniah 3:18 > Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFS1b0i7Fom/O+pV8RAg4WAJ9Qht9CKB1/ez3+9xjCp/BEwTmbZQCggMRc > XoTI30VHchk++6k3jBOLu2M= > =l7AG > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
At least they are not taking pre-orders and then not delivering. That would be fraudulent. They just take a long time. Knowing this and the fact their games are not attractive to me is enough for me to not buy their games. * x-sight interactive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 07:45]: > i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use > c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, > which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they > have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's > going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. -- Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass. -- Isaiah 32:20 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't think they are a fraud. Just because you may not agree with their style of customer service or the frequency of new games have they actually made themselves to be a fraud? If I went on that basis, I could easily say that hundreds of companies are frauds. Take Microsoft for example. I don't agree with their customer service. Take Panasonic, I think they charge too much for some of their basic cordless multi-station phones. But they are not frauds. This company here has not stollen money from people. They have delivered their products. If you don't like their customer service style then don't do business with them. If you feel they wait too long between titles, then get someone else's titles. Personally, I have never purchased their games, nor delt with them, but that is only because their games do not attract me. I felt they are like a text adventure with sounds and menus, but that is my opinion. I have a choice, and I choose not to do business with them, but again, they are not frauds. * Brandon armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 04:33]: >bavisoft is a joke. >Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack >of good service. - -- I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden. -- Zephaniah 3:18 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFS1b0i7Fom/O+pV8RAg4WAJ9Qht9CKB1/ez3+9xjCp/BEwTmbZQCggMRc XoTI30VHchk++6k3jBOLu2M= =l7AG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but programming isn't all about maths and algebra, only if you're doing it straight from the processor/hd level ... regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Well said. I was seriously considering attempting to learn programming > myself, but I'm beginning to realize that might not be an option for me. If > I don't have the patience for math I'm probably not going to have the > patience for actual programming, and I'd imagine that patience is a big > requirement in something like that. You're basically learning a foreing > language, computerese, and learning a foreign language takes time and > patience. Thtand I've never really enjoyed ath, so I have a feeling I might > not enjoy programming all that much either. granted I could be wrong, but > I'm basing this on my own experiences with Algebra. So far we aren't exactly > on the same wave length. > - Original Message - > From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > hi Brandon, you wrote: > > bavisoft is a joke. > > Their a frod and I wish they would go out of business because of their > > lack > > of good service. > > why are they a fraud? > > btw that's f, r, a, u, d. > > and why would you want them to go out of business pray tel? > > there are very few devs out there as it is so wishing one more down the > > drain is only going to be detrimental to you and the community as a whole. > > if you don't like the games don't buy them simple as. > > there a lot of people who believe it or not actually enjoyed them. > > its comments like yours the reason James north has given up on this > > community dare I say blind people in general. > > if you carry on thinking in this manner, the only joke is going to be on > > you > > my friend. > > fact, Jeff has had a lot of personal problems when writing chillingham, if > > I > > was him I would just pack it all in and say screw the blind gamers. > > now if you want to make a difference, why don't you learn the necessary > > skills of programming and coding and write a game of your own, then we can > > judge your standards! > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > > >> bavisoft is a joke. > >> Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their > >> lack > >> of good service. > >> Brandon > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > >> > >> > >>> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games > >>> that, > >>> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > >>> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > >>> for > >>> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > >>> which, > >>> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > >>> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > >>> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > >>> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > >>> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > >>> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > >>> bit > >>> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > >>> you > >>> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > >>> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > >>> years. > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > >>> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > >>> > >>> > Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure > games > etc. > I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > to find out that I wasn't able
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
i don't feel that's off topic - still about games *smile* regards, damien - Original Message - From: "will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > hi > > i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of payers > and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not > sure though > speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? > I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages > smile > regards, WIll > > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, > > to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > > difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > > for > > a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > > which, > > unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > > considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > > Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > > undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > > litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > > would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > > bit > > pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > > you > > to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > > strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > > years. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > > Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > > >> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > >> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > >> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > >> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > >> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > >> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > >> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games > >> etc. > >> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > >> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > >> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > >> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > >> over a year ago. > >> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > >> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play > >> it. > >> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > >> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >> visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >> any subscription changes via the web. > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. that's just my opinion, i'm not that impatient, but i can understand both sides. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud > they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm > trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the > firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to > release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do > agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for > them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before > we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that > the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the > overall mediocrity of their titles. > - Original Message - > From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > bavisoft is a joke. > > Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their > > lack > > of good service. > > Brandon > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > > >> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games > >> that, > >> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > >> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > >> for > >> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > >> which, > >> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > >> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > >> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > >> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > >> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > >> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > >> bit > >> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > >> you > >> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > >> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > >> years. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" > >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > >> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > >> > >> > >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > >>> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > >>> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > >>> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > >>> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > >>> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > >>> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games > >>> etc. > >>> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > >>> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > >>> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > >>> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > >>> over a year ago. > >>> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > >>> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play > >>> it. > >>> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > >>> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >>> visit > >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >>> any subscription changes via the web. > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >> visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >> any subscription changes
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
well, not only taking a long time to release something, but saying they'll release it in september 2005 when it's now november 2006 without any progress news is just diabolical in my opinion. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, > to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for > a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, > unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit > pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you > to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > years. > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > > > Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > > I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > > Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > > difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > > and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > > when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > > attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games > > etc. > > I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > > to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > > required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > > bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > > over a year ago. > > As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > > fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. > > Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > > with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Castle Quest was bavisoft's lack of customer service
You say that the code for CQ was out sauced to another by BSC Games. Then by all copy right laws that code should of ben the property of BSC Games. They may want to look into that one. Because the same law goes for someone doing a project for any school. If for grade its there property not the creators. At 07:37 AM 11/3/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >Snip > What I don't understan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched the >3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project >End Snip > >I've talked to Justin at length about this and the bottom line is the >3rd party were pro game developers writing the engine for CQ for BSC >Games. When the 3rd party developer ended up stopping work on CQ for BSC >Games do to licensing the developer was able to keep the source code for >the CQ project. That left BSC without a project, source code, and they >basicly had nothing. To make CQ they would have to start from scratch. >As a developer myself were I in Justin's position I wouldn't start over >either. It was easier to scrap the project and start fresh with a new >one rather than continue on from ground zero and start CQ over again >from the drawing board. > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question.
the ending is rather annoying, seeing it advertises chillingham 2 since 2004 and still no news on it lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question. > The price is rather high, and it's only real replay comes if you are really > bored on an afternoon. H The ending of the game is rather anticlimactic. > > > -Original Message- > From: david [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:24 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question. > > I wouldn't recommend it. It's quite expensive, and has no replay value. Just > my thoughts. > - Original Message - > From: "jamie coady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question. > > > > hi is it possible to get a demo of this game to down load of this game? > > jamie > > - Original Message - > > From: "Yohandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:19 PM > > Subject: [Audyssey] chillingham question. > > > > > >> Hello all, Just wondering if there's a chillingham walkthrough anywhere? > >> I > >> really get stuck on parts of the game. For instance now that I gave > >> the professor the bugs, I have no clue what to do. > >> Any help would be appreciated. > >> > >> For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, > >> game art, etc, go here. > >> > >> http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 > >> > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail > >> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any > >> subscription changes via the web. > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any > > subscription changes via the web. > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any > subscription changes via the web. > > > > __ NOD32 1.1659 (20060713) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the overall mediocrity of their titles. - Original Message - From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > bavisoft is a joke. > Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their > lack > of good service. > Brandon > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games >> that, >> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other >> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make >> for >> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles >> which, >> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a >> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on >> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more >> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a >> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we >> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a >> bit >> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require >> you >> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a >> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two >> years. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> >> >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought >>> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. >>> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing >>> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, >>> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good >>> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece >>> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games >>> etc. >>> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only >>> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it >>> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to >>> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well >>> over a year ago. >>> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't >>> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play >>> it. >>> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same >>> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Well said. I was seriously considering attempting to learn programming myself, but I'm beginning to realize that might not be an option for me. If I don't have the patience for math I'm probably not going to have the patience for actual programming, and I'd imagine that patience is a big requirement in something like that. You're basically learning a foreing language, computerese, and learning a foreign language takes time and patience. Thtand I've never really enjoyed ath, so I have a feeling I might not enjoy programming all that much either. granted I could be wrong, but I'm basing this on my own experiences with Algebra. So far we aren't exactly on the same wave length. - Original Message - From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > hi Brandon, you wrote: > bavisoft is a joke. > Their a frod and I wish they would go out of business because of their > lack > of good service. > why are they a fraud? > btw that's f, r, a, u, d. > and why would you want them to go out of business pray tel? > there are very few devs out there as it is so wishing one more down the > drain is only going to be detrimental to you and the community as a whole. > if you don't like the games don't buy them simple as. > there a lot of people who believe it or not actually enjoyed them. > its comments like yours the reason James north has given up on this > community dare I say blind people in general. > if you carry on thinking in this manner, the only joke is going to be on > you > my friend. > fact, Jeff has had a lot of personal problems when writing chillingham, if > I > was him I would just pack it all in and say screw the blind gamers. > now if you want to make a difference, why don't you learn the necessary > skills of programming and coding and write a game of your own, then we can > judge your standards! > - Original Message - > From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> bavisoft is a joke. >> Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their >> lack >> of good service. >> Brandon >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> >> >>> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games >>> that, >>> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other >>> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make >>> for >>> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles >>> which, >>> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a >>> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on >>> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more >>> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a >>> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we >>> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a >>> bit >>> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require >>> you >>> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a >>> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two >>> years. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >>> >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamer
Re: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients
GMud works pretty good from what I'm told, and there are Jaws scripts available I'm just not sure where. Someone else might be able to provide that info for you. Also, MonkeyTerm works relatively well with Jaws and there are also scripts for that available and wouldn't you know it, I can't remember where they're located, either. Sorry for not being much help. lol -Cary - Original Message - From: "Adam Pecillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] MUD's and MUD clients > Hey, > > What mud clients are there out there that work well with screenreaders > and braille displays? > > Regards, > Adam aka Zaphod > http://wormhole.se > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Castle Quest was bavisoft's lack of customer service
Hi, Snip What I don't understan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched the 3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project End Snip I've talked to Justin at length about this and the bottom line is the 3rd party were pro game developers writing the engine for CQ for BSC Games. When the 3rd party developer ended up stopping work on CQ for BSC Games do to licensing the developer was able to keep the source code for the CQ project. That left BSC without a project, source code, and they basicly had nothing. To make CQ they would have to start from scratch. As a developer myself were I in Justin's position I wouldn't start over either. It was easier to scrap the project and start fresh with a new one rather than continue on from ground zero and start CQ over again from the drawing board. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] BSC was bavisoft's lack of customer service
Hi, Snip speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonder? End Snip Not that I am aware of. Last time I talked to Justin, which was a while ago, he was heavily involved with his day job catching up with some pressing projects. Not sure what else, but I do know he has been extremely busy this last few months. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
hi Brandon, you wrote: bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and I wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. why are they a fraud? btw that's f, r, a, u, d. and why would you want them to go out of business pray tel? there are very few devs out there as it is so wishing one more down the drain is only going to be detrimental to you and the community as a whole. if you don't like the games don't buy them simple as. there a lot of people who believe it or not actually enjoyed them. its comments like yours the reason James north has given up on this community dare I say blind people in general. if you carry on thinking in this manner, the only joke is going to be on you my friend. fact, Jeff has had a lot of personal problems when writing chillingham, if I was him I would just pack it all in and say screw the blind gamers. now if you want to make a difference, why don't you learn the necessary skills of programming and coding and write a game of your own, then we can judge your standards! - Original Message - From: "Brandon armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > bavisoft is a joke. > Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their > lack > of good service. > Brandon > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games >> that, >> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other >> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make >> for >> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles >> which, >> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a >> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on >> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more >> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a >> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we >> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a >> bit >> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require >> you >> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a >> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two >> years. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> >> >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought >>> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. >>> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing >>> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, >>> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good >>> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece >>> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games >>> etc. >>> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only >>> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it >>> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to >>> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well >>> over a year ago. >>> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't >>> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play >>> it. >>> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same >>> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscriptio
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, > to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > for > a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > which, > unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > bit > pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > you > to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > years. > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought >> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. >> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing >> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, >> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good >> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece >> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games >> etc. >> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only >> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it >> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to >> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well >> over a year ago. >> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't >> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play >> it. >> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same >> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
hi i believe that these third parties provided real voice acting etcetra are there any releases of games inthe next audyssey Ron, like game announcements? if so we can put them on our xmas lists ow in case the next issue is out in december But back to the origianl topic of this thread, as i said i think we will see chillingham 2 epends when though regards,w ill - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Nope, not since Castle Quest was shelved. Now there's a game that had > potential. What I don't undertan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched > the > 3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project > themselves. I had a guy Email me about that a few months back. Quite a > depressing chap actually, always ready to assume the worst about people. > His > opinion was that the "problems with the development team" that forced BSC > to > shelf the game involved computer viruses and landmines and things. I seem > to > remember him saying something about how he was going to write to BSC and > demand that they resume work on CQ. Needless to say I hope he took my > warning seriously, but I haven't heard from him since that last message. > - Original Message - > From: "will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> hi >> >> i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of >> payers >> and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not >> sure though >> speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? >> I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages >> smile >> regards, WIll >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> >> >>> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games >>> that, >>> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other >>> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make >>> for >>> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles >>> which, >>> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a >>> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on >>> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more >>> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a >>> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we >>> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a >>> bit >>> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require >>> you >>> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a >>> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two >>> years. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >>> >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Nope, not since Castle Quest was shelved. Now there's a game that had potential. What I don't undertan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched the 3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project themselves. I had a guy Email me about that a few months back. Quite a depressing chap actually, always ready to assume the worst about people. His opinion was that the "problems with the development team" that forced BSC to shelf the game involved computer viruses and landmines and things. I seem to remember him saying something about how he was going to write to BSC and demand that they resume work on CQ. Needless to say I hope he took my warning seriously, but I haven't heard from him since that last message. - Original Message - From: "will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > hi > > i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of payers > and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not > sure though > speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? > I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages > smile > regards, WIll > > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games >> that, >> to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other >> difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make >> for >> a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles >> which, >> unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a >> considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on >> Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more >> undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a >> litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we >> would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a >> bit >> pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require >> you >> to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a >> strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two >> years. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service >> >> >>> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought >>> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. >>> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing >>> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, >>> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good >>> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece >>> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games >>> etc. >>> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only >>> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it >>> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to >>> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well >>> over a year ago. >>> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't >>> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play >>> it. >>> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same >>> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
hi i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of payers and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not sure though speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages smile regards, WIll - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, > to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other > difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make > for > a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles > which, > unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a > considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on > Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more > undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a > litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we > would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a > bit > pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require > you > to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a > strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two > years. > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > > >> Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought >> I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. >> Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing >> difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, >> and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good >> when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece >> attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games >> etc. >> I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only >> to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it >> required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to >> bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well >> over a year ago. >> As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't >> fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play >> it. >> Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same >> with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service > Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought > I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. > Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing > difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, > and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good > when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece > attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games > etc. > I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only > to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it > required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to > bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well > over a year ago. > As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't > fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. > Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same > with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
