Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that.



On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi champion!
 why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
 and sign an agreement of 50 50
 Maybe it will help.
 as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
 Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
 I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
 you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
 I want mota mota mota in full version.
 Thanks
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Lisa Hayes
Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for 
f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i 
think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if 
that happ;ens.

Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me 
that.




On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan



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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa,

Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it
is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but
even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just
haven't found a reason good enough to do it.

As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member
of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from
the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably
deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have
no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D

In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one
place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything
I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or
delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash.



On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for
 f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i
 think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if
 that happ;ens.
 Lisa Hayes




 www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Lisa Hayes
ok fare enough i'll keep a rein on my temper, for now, but he was rude to me 
and said something to the effect that it was my english not his that was not 
understandable and i have that message and your response so i'm not happy 
with him, for now i'll shut up.

Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Lisa,

Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it
is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but
even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just
haven't found a reason good enough to do it.

As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member
of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from
the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably
deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have
no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D

In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one
place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything
I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or
delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash.



On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but 
for

f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i
think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if
that happ;ens.
Lisa Hayes




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[Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for helping
with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac and
for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have a
mac.
Phil



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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
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Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Well said sir.

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Hi Ishan,

What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
feasible for a number of reasons.

For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
pretty close to it at the moment.

Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
employee as you suggest.

Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

Cheers!


On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Thomas sir!
Do you know phil vlasak?
if you say yes
then do that.
Let's come to the point.
you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
life.
so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
If you have money you can do everything.
If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
managing
you'll gain not lose.
your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
same thing will apply on you.
If you do you'll earn not lose.
I think itz a profitable agreement.
So Mr champion go for it!
What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
And if he's not making a lot off of the game to begin with, then how is 
he supposed to pay back that loan? What part of he's going through a 
financial chrisis and other stuff in his life right now what part of 
that don't you understand?


On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Well said sir.

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Hi Ishan,

What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
feasible for a number of reasons.

For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
pretty close to it at the moment.

Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
employee as you suggest.

Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

Cheers!


On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Thomas sir!
Do you know phil vlasak?
if you say yes
then do that.
Let's come to the point.
you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
life.
so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
If you have money you can do everything.
If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
managing
you'll gain not lose.
your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
same thing will apply on you.
If you do you'll earn not lose.
I think itz a profitable agreement.
So Mr champion go for it!
What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread tim
Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there 
concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand.


At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that.



On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi champion!
 why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
 and sign an agreement of 50 50
 Maybe it will help.
 as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
 Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
 I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
 you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
 I want mota mota mota in full version.
 Thanks
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread tim

you don't think at all and that is your problem.

At 12:48 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

I am not thinking about Charles riverd.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the 
ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often


 uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard?



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 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Ward
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 Hi Ishan,

 What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
 feasible for a number of reasons.

 For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
 including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
 to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
 ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
 to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
 am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
 pretty close to it at the moment.

 Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
 time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
 coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
 on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
 employee as you suggest.

 Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
 programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
 maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
 will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
 to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
 which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
 working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
 twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
 possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

 As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
 alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
 partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
 lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
 believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
 before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

 Cheers!


 On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Thomas sir!
 Do you know phil vlasak?
 if you say yes
 then do that.
 Let's come to the point.
 you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
 life.
 so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
 If you have money you can do everything.
 If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
 managing
 you'll gain not lose.
 your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
 the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
 founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
 same thing will apply on you.
 If you do you'll earn not lose.
 I think itz a profitable agreement.
 So Mr champion go for it!
 What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
 Thanks
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Cyberassault zombie apoc coming soon

2014-10-17 Thread john

100, wow. There's more again.

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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:17:41 -0700
Subject: [Audyssey] Cyberassault zombie apoc coming soon

In about two weeks, the anual zombie apoc will start on Cyberassault mud.
Special quests, special eqs, and tons of zombies to kill- with over 100
different zombie types!
To be there to defend humanity, it is best to start creating your character
now, level it up, and start stockpiling ammo and medical supplies!
Come visit us.
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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread tim
now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its 
called a temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let 
your backside know what the meaning of smack is.


At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well said sir.

 --
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 Hi Ishan,

 What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
 feasible for a number of reasons.

 For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
 including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
 to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
 ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
 to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
 am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
 pretty close to it at the moment.

 Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
 time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
 coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
 on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
 employee as you suggest.

 Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
 programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
 maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
 will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
 to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
 which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
 working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
 twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
 possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

 As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
 alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
 partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
 lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
 believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
 before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

 Cheers!


 On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Thomas sir!
 Do you know phil vlasak?
 if you say yes
 then do that.
 Let's come to the point.
 you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
 life.
 so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
 If you have money you can do everything.
 If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
 managing
 you'll gain not lose.
 your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
 the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
 founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
 same thing will apply on you.
 If you do you'll earn not lose.
 I think itz a profitable agreement.
 So Mr champion go for it!
 What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
 Thanks
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Lisa Hayes

BEcause he isn't on, he's trying to find one.
Lisa Hayes




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- Original Message - 
From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA



and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Well said sir.

--
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Hi Ishan,

What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
feasible for a number of reasons.

For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
pretty close to it at the moment.

Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
employee as you suggest.

Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

Cheers!


On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Thomas sir!
Do you know phil vlasak?
if you say yes
then do that.
Let's come to the point.
you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
life.
so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
If you have money you can do everything.
If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
managing
you'll gain not lose.
your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
same thing will apply on you.
If you do you'll earn not lose.
I think itz a profitable agreement.
So Mr champion go for it!
What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 and why do you call everybody champion?

 Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, 
especially in sports.

a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record 
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the 
world champion

2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, 
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, 
flag-bearer a champion of change

historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; 
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing

1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take 
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, 
stick up for championing the rights of refugees

antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval 
Latin campio(n-) ‘fighter,’ from Latin campus (see camp1).


so ishan is completely wrong there.

On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
 1.
 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 especially in sports.
 a champion hurdler
 synonyms:
 winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
 holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
 world champion
 2.
 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
 a champion of women's rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
 exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
 flag-bearer a champion of change
 historical
 a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
 synonyms:
 knight, man-at-arms, warrior
 the king's champion
 verb
 verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
 past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
 1.
 support the cause of; defend.
 priests who championed human rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
 someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
 stick up for championing the rights of refugees
 antonyms:
 oppose
 Origin
 Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
 Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

 so ishan is completely wrong there.

 On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
 context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
 I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
 Champion.



 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 and why do you call everybody champion?

 Josh
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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

I actually think he's eighteen.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: tim

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there
concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand.

At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that.



On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi champion!
 why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
 and sign an agreement of 50 50
 Maybe it will help.
 as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
 Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
 I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
 you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
 I want mota mota mota in full version.
 Thanks
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

And a very funny one at that.



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From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:48 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Hi Bryan,

I don't know, but there is definitely no Charles involved with PCs
Games. At least not as a developer etc. I have no idea where Ishan got
that idea, but he needs to get his facts straight. That's all I can
say.

Cheers!


On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he 
often


uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard?



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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson
I saw that one. Then he even told people I was his sworn ennemy because I 
couldn't understand him and I wouldn't help im get a game for free. 
Therefore I'd asked him not to write me. Talk about petty.




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From: Lisa Hayes

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:18 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

ok fare enough i'll keep a rein on my temper, for now, but he was rude to me
and said something to the effect that it was my english not his that was not
understandable and i have that message and your response so i'm not happy
with him, for now i'll shut up.
Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Lisa,

Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it
is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but
even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just
haven't found a reason good enough to do it.

As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member
of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from
the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably
deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have
no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D

In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one
place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything
I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or
delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash.



On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but 
for

f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i
think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if
that happ;ens.
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson
The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point 
is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different 
ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, 
now, now.




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From: Scott Chesworth

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
especially in sports.
a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
world champion
2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
flag-bearer a champion of change
historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
stick up for championing the rights of refugees
antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

so ishan is completely wrong there.

On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
cool...

Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point
 is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
 ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
 now, now.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
 someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
 talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
 annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
 obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
 amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
 believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
 young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
 to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
 net. Long live the double standard

 You stay classy now chaps...

 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
 1.
 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 especially in sports.
 a champion hurdler
 synonyms:
 winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
 holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
 world champion
 2.
 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
 a champion of women's rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
 exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
 flag-bearer a champion of change
 historical
 a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
 synonyms:
 knight, man-at-arms, warrior
 the king's champion
 verb
 verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
 past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
 1.
 support the cause of; defend.
 priests who championed human rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
 someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
 stick up for championing the rights of refugees
 antonyms:
 oppose
 Origin
 Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
 Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

 so ishan is completely wrong there.

 On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
 context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
 I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
 Champion.



 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 and why do you call everybody champion?

 Josh
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[Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
well I got the ogre down to 14 health and then I was defeated so far on 
average I can get it down to 47 or 45 health but I ultimately end up dying.
first I move over one square and take the bow and the scroll of flying. 
then i go a few rounds and then attack once or twice with the bow before 
I move two spaces right and take the healing potions, the vest which I 
equip, the sword and the scroll of fire pillar. Then go 2 or 3 more 
rounds, hit ogre with the bow once or twice, then when I know he's 
getting 3 or 4 squares away I set up the fire pillar and end my round. 
and then equip the long sword. end round, ogre punches, i lose 20 or so 
health. use one potion, hit once with sword, round changes, and it goes 
like that until I run out of potions. during the last round I strike two 
times with the sword get the ogre down to maybe 45 health once got him 
down to 14 and then I end up dying or losing. Even if I move two spaces 
the ogre just catches up and moving has no effect. what am I doing wrong 
here? I feel I'm missing one critical part of the strategy which is not 
falling into place in my head. please give me a hint or help with what I 
am doing wrong. I'll paste the log.

log is below
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
Round: 12
 the evil Ogre loses 10 health
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire 
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining

 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 19 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Choose an item
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire 
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining

 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 22 health
Battle Map
 the evil Ogre has 40 of 200 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 3 of 3 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move

 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero has 2 of 50 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give 
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment

Moved to 5 1
Moved to 6 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 4 2 to 6 2
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 2 health
 the good Hero has been defeated
Round: 13
You have been defeated!
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
main menu
play a map campaign
exit game



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Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
I'll help in any way I can with the iPhone app, as I do have an iPhone 5.  I 
hope he develops it, because I think that the motion sensors in the iPhone 
could really turn this into a neat game of reflexes, and could be quite 
challenging.


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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for 
helping

with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac 
and

for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have 
a

mac.
Phil



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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[Audyssey] latest tacticle battle log

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
items and equipment example latest log. There's one or two things I'm 
doing wrong here and I'm just not quite sure what they are.

Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 4 2 to 6 2
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 13 health
Round: 12
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 6 2
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 16 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
Choose an item
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 6 2
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 15 health
Battle Map
 the evil Ogre has 42 of 200 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 1 of 3 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move

 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
Valley 7 1
Valley 8 1
Valley 7 1
 the good Hero , Valley 6 1
Moved to 7 1
Moved to 8 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 6 2 to 8 2
 the evil Ogre at 8 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 8 1
 the good Hero loses 7 health
 the good Hero has been defeated
Round: 13
You have been defeated!
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
main menu
play a map campaign
exit game

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Re: [Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

What game is this?



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From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:28 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

well I got the ogre down to 14 health and then I was defeated so far on
average I can get it down to 47 or 45 health but I ultimately end up dying.
first I move over one square and take the bow and the scroll of flying.
then i go a few rounds and then attack once or twice with the bow before
I move two spaces right and take the healing potions, the vest which I
equip, the sword and the scroll of fire pillar. Then go 2 or 3 more
rounds, hit ogre with the bow once or twice, then when I know he's
getting 3 or 4 squares away I set up the fire pillar and end my round.
and then equip the long sword. end round, ogre punches, i lose 20 or so
health. use one potion, hit once with sword, round changes, and it goes
like that until I run out of potions. during the last round I strike two
times with the sword get the ogre down to maybe 45 health once got him
down to 14 and then I end up dying or losing. Even if I move two spaces
the ogre just catches up and moving has no effect. what am I doing wrong
here? I feel I'm missing one critical part of the strategy which is not
falling into place in my head. please give me a hint or help with what I
am doing wrong. I'll paste the log.
log is below
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
Round: 12
 the evil Ogre loses 10 health
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 19 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Choose an item
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 22 health
Battle Map
 the evil Ogre has 40 of 200 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 3 of 3
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero has 2 of 50 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment
Moved to 5 1
Moved to 6 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 4 2 to 6 2
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 2 health
 the good Hero has been defeated
Round: 13
You have been defeated!
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
main menu
play a map campaign
exit game



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Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

It could be almost as much fun as bowling on the Wii.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

I'll help in any way I can with the iPhone app, as I do have an iPhone 5.  I
hope he develops it, because I think that the motion sensors in the iPhone
could really turn this into a neat game of reflexes, and could be quite
challenging.

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for 
helping

with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac 
and

for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have 
a

mac.
Phil



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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Re: [Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy

tacticle battle 2.0 from www.blindaudiogames.com

On 10/17/2014 1:32 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote:

What game is this?



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list ; ian-reeds-ga...@freelists.org
Subject: [Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

well I got the ogre down to 14 health and then I was defeated so far on
average I can get it down to 47 or 45 health but I ultimately end up 
dying.

first I move over one square and take the bow and the scroll of flying.
then i go a few rounds and then attack once or twice with the bow before
I move two spaces right and take the healing potions, the vest which I
equip, the sword and the scroll of fire pillar. Then go 2 or 3 more
rounds, hit ogre with the bow once or twice, then when I know he's
getting 3 or 4 squares away I set up the fire pillar and end my round.
and then equip the long sword. end round, ogre punches, i lose 20 or so
health. use one potion, hit once with sword, round changes, and it goes
like that until I run out of potions. during the last round I strike two
times with the sword get the ogre down to maybe 45 health once got him
down to 14 and then I end up dying or losing. Even if I move two spaces
the ogre just catches up and moving has no effect. what am I doing wrong
here? I feel I'm missing one critical part of the strategy which is not
falling into place in my head. please give me a hint or help with what I
am doing wrong. I'll paste the log.
log is below
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
Round: 12
 the evil Ogre loses 10 health
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 19 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Choose an item
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Long Bow 1 of 1
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire
Pillar with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 22 health
Battle Map
 the evil Ogre has 40 of 200 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 3 of 3
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero has 2 of 50 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment
Moved to 5 1
Moved to 6 1
Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 4 2 to 6 2
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 2 health
 the good Hero has been defeated
Round: 13
You have been defeated!
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
main menu
play a map campaign
exit game



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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Scott Chesworth

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
cool...

Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point
is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
now, now.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Chesworth
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
especially in sports.
a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
world champion
2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
flag-bearer a champion of change
historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
stick up for championing the rights of refugees
antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

so ishan is completely wrong there.

On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

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[Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
Actually, it would be more fun, because we would not needed one bit of 
sighted assistance.


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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA


It could be almost as much fun as bowling on the Wii.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

I'll help in any way I can with the iPhone app, as I do have an iPhone 5.  I
hope he develops it, because I think that the motion sensors in the iPhone
could really turn this into a neat game of reflexes, and could be quite
challenging.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for 
helping

with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac 
and

for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have 
a

mac.
Phil



- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS was AnInquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

Well sometimes we just need sighted help.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:57 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS was 
AnInquiry about MOTA


Actually, it would be more fun, because we would not needed one bit of
sighted assistance.

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you! really! are! finished!
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA


It could be almost as much fun as bowling on the Wii.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

I'll help in any way I can with the iPhone app, as I do have an iPhone 5.  I
hope he develops it, because I think that the motion sensors in the iPhone
could really turn this into a neat game of reflexes, and could be quite
challenging.

---
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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for 
helping

with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac 
and

for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have 
a

mac.
Phil



- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to moderated?

On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
 aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
 happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
 problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
 take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
 it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
 who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
 kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
 beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
 generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
 cool...

 Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
 assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


 On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The
 point
 is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
 ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
 now, now.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
 someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
 talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
 annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
 obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
 amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
 believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
 young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
 to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
 net. Long live the double standard

 You stay classy now chaps...

 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
 1.
 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 especially in sports.
 a champion hurdler
 synonyms:
 winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
 holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
 world champion
 2.
 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
 a champion of women's rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
 exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
 flag-bearer a champion of change
 historical
 a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
 synonyms:
 knight, man-at-arms, warrior
 the king's champion
 verb
 verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
 past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
 1.
 support the cause of; defend.
 priests who championed human rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
 someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
 stick up for championing the rights of refugees
 antonyms:
 oppose
 Origin
 Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
 Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

 so ishan is completely wrong there.

 On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
 context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
 I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
 Champion.



 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 and why do you call everybody champion?

 Josh
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[Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
Due to the lack of subject line change, I've missed most of this discussion. 
I think, personally, that the main problem is not a language barrier, 
although, to some degree.  The main factors are a lack of maturity and a 
total disrespect of others.  I no longer read his posts due to their lack of 
understandability and due to their content that, to be honest, tee me off 
when they can be understood.  While this may seem harsh, I do mean it as 
constructive criticism.


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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Scott Chesworth

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
cool...

Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point
is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
now, now.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Chesworth
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
especially in sports.
a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
world champion
2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
flag-bearer a champion of change
historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
stick up for championing the rights of refugees
antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

so ishan is completely wrong there.

On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS wasAnInquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
Not if accessibility is in the design, as it will be in the case of this app 
that I really would like to see developed..


---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS 
wasAnInquiry about MOTA



Well sometimes we just need sighted help.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:57 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCS was
AnInquiry about MOTA

Actually, it would be more fun, because we would not needed one bit of
sighted assistance.

---
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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA


It could be almost as much fun as bowling on the Wii.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA

I'll help in any way I can with the iPhone app, as I do have an iPhone 5.  I
hope he develops it, because I think that the motion sensors in the iPhone
could really turn this into a neat game of reflexes, and could be quite
challenging.

---
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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Charles at PCS was An Inquiry about MOTA



Hi Charles,
Maybe he thought that because we do give you special recognition for 
helping

with Ten Pin Alley, and for promoting the game through the years.
I have given Josh the okay that he can develop the bowling game for Mac 
and

for the iPhone. It is up to him if he wants to do it
Right now I am unable to do mac or iPhone game development as I don't have 
a

mac.
Phil



- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it
was about to be marketed.


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

Precisely. And polite explanations and requests.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Scott Chesworth

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to moderated?

On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Chesworth
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
cool...

Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The
point
is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
now, now.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Chesworth
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
especially in sports.
a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
world champion
2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
flag-bearer a champion of change
historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
stick up for championing the rights of refugees
antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

so ishan is completely wrong there.

On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
Champion.



On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

and why do you call everybody champion?

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson
Exactly. He asks questions the answers to wic are found in a given game's 
user guide and, whensomeone suggests quite politely that mayybe he 
lookthrough said document he gets upset and starts accusing them of being 
rude.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA

Due to the lack of subject line change, I've missed most of this discussion.
I think, personally, that the main problem is not a language barrier,
although, to some degree.  The main factors are a lack of maturity and a
total disrespect of others.  I no longer read his posts due to their lack of
understandability and due to their content that, to be honest, tee me off
when they can be understood.  While this may seem harsh, I do mean it as
constructive criticism.

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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: Scott Chesworth

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
cool...

Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point
is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now,
now, now.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Chesworth
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
net. Long live the double standard

You stay classy now chaps...

On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
1.
a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
especially in sports.
a champion hurdler
synonyms:
winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
world champion
2.
a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
a champion of women's rights
synonyms:
advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
flag-bearer a champion of change
historical
a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
synonyms:
knight, man-at-arms, warrior
the king's champion
verb
verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
1.
support the cause of; defend.
priests who championed human rights
synonyms:
advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
stick up for championing the rights of refugees
antonyms:
oppose
Origin
Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval
Latin campio(n-) 

Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
So hang on, if he's on moderated status, why are we still seeing the
type of posts that are guaranteed to annoy people, people that in this
case includes the moderator?

On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 Precisely. And polite explanations and requests.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to
 moderated?

 On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one
 aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's
 happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual
 problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's
 take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but
 it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people
 who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying
 kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age
 beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh
 generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not
 cool...

 Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is
 assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol


 On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The
 point
 is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different
 ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done
 now,
 now, now.



 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling
 someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of
 talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and
 annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was
 obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the
 amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite
 believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a
 young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems
 to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the
 net. Long live the double standard

 You stay classy now chaps...

 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means...
 1.
 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 especially in sports.
 a champion hurdler
 synonyms:
 winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record
 holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the
 world champion
 2.
 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else.
 a champion of women's rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer,
 exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster,
 flag-bearer a champion of change
 historical
 a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch.
 synonyms:
 knight, man-at-arms, warrior
 the king's champion
 verb
 verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed;
 past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing
 1.
 support the cause of; defend.
 priests who championed human rights
 synonyms:
 advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take
 someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for,
 stick up for championing the rights of refugees
 antonyms:
 oppose
 Origin
 Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from
 medieval
 Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1).

 so ishan is completely wrong there.

 On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the
 context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although,
 I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else
 Champion.



 On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 and why do you call everybody champion?

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[Audyssey] tacticle battle 2.0 items and equipment i wonononononon!!

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey I won! here's the log or as much as it as tacticle battle 2.0 will 
show...

 the evil Ogre at 4 4 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 3
 the good Hero loses 16 health
Round: 10
 the evil Ogre loses 11 health
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 3
 the good Hero has 15 of 50 Health and 2 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give 
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment

Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 4 The tile has the following effects, Fire 
Pillar with 3 rounds remaining

 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 19 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 3
Choose an item
2 Minor Healing Potion 1 of 2
Long Bow 2 of 2
2 Minor Healing Potion 1 of 2
Who will you use Minor Healing Potion on?
 the good Hero , Valley 4 3
 the good Hero uses Minor Healing Potion on  the good Hero
 the good Hero regains 25 health
Battle Map
 the good Hero has 40 of 50 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give 
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment

Ending turn
Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre at 4 4 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 3
 the good Hero loses 17 health
 the evil Ogre at 4 4 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 3
 the good Hero loses 12 health
Round: 11
 the evil Ogre loses 12 health
Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 3
 the good Hero has 11 of 50 Health and 2 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2 
Movement and has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give 
item, Drop item, Use item, Equipment

 the good Hero , Valley 4 3
Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 4 The tile has the following effects, Fire 
Pillar with 2 rounds remaining

 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 5 health
 the evil Ogre has been defeated
Battle Map
You are victorious!
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
go to map selection menu
return to main menu
main menu
play a map campaign
exit game

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[Audyssey] star wars the clone wars

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
I played star wars the clone wars tacticle battle 2.0 map and its the 
best audio star wars game ever! the map is in real time strategy but 
battles are turn based. I lost on the second level where you have to use 
all your many clone troops and a few jedi with light sabers to get past 
the battle droids, have your clone engineer build the bridge over the 
chasm and then cross it with your batallion of clones and jedi and take 
out the battle droids and the blaster cannons break down the blast doors 
and uh there's something else at the end I forget but many of my clone 
troopers got killed in that tacticle battle map. if you can edit .txt or 
text files and change numbers and easily explained descriptions you can 
make your own map. it even has an in game map editor you hit alt e I 
think to get into that and change the map. now all we need is a big big 
big sound library. I'd love to see a harry potter tacticle battle, 
dota2, lord of the rings, maybe some final fantasy and more. you can 
make your own maps no programming required! star wars maps has at least 
14 to 20 chapters or levels in those map packs, yes there's two of them! 
they are so so awesome! age of warlords is excellent also! you guys 
gotta get tacticle battle. only thing I wish is I wish we could play 
online in teams. maybe someone on here can write scripts to enable 
online play? thomas ward mayb it would just be easier for you to adapt 
your mota game to the tacticle battle mapping engine and script it for 
online play. that would be so much fun! tacticle battle is so fun I 
can't believe you guys on here never heard of it before! go get it and 
all the maps its fun and so adicting! the star wars and star trek games 
are so realistic and have lots of depth you'll be playing for hours! 
star wars and age of warlords also! oh yeah and don't forget about the 
tower defense map. I think age of warlords has at least 34 levels if not 
more 34 invividual maps each with their own sounds music description and 
mission objectives. so much fun!




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Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCSwasAnInquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread dark
I agree charles, an accessible bowling game with realistic motions for Ios 
would be awsom.


While I understand  Bryan's comment about sighted assistance fbeing 
necessary foo wii bowling, I don't believe it applies here if as you said 
the game is accessible, which it obviously would be if Phil Vlasac is 
involved in making it.


Beware the Grue!
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Re: [Audyssey] star wars the clone wars

2014-10-17 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi Josh,

Haven't played the star wars map yet, but that sounds pretty awesome, I'll
have to give it a go over this weekend. 
I've downloaded the new version of tactical battle, but not got round to
playing it yet.  I've played the older version though and it's a great game.
but looking forward to playing this new one with all its new features
especially looking forward to being able to download all the new maps as I
only had a few maps on the older version of the game


Paul 




-Original Message- 
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] star wars the clone wars

I played star wars the clone wars tacticle battle 2.0 map and its the best
audio star wars game ever! the map is in real time strategy but battles are
turn based. I lost on the second level where you have to use all your many
clone troops and a few jedi with light sabers to get past the battle droids,
have your clone engineer build the bridge over the chasm and then cross it
with your batallion of clones and jedi and take out the battle droids and
the blaster cannons break down the blast doors and uh there's something else
at the end I forget but many of my clone troopers got killed in that
tacticle battle map. if you can edit .txt or text files and change numbers
and easily explained descriptions you can make your own map. it even has an
in game map editor you hit alt e I think to get into that and change the
map. now all we need is a big big big sound library. I'd love to see a harry
potter tacticle battle, dota2, lord of the rings, maybe some final fantasy
and more. you can make your own maps no programming required! star wars maps
has at least
14 to 20 chapters or levels in those map packs, yes there's two of them! 
they are so so awesome! age of warlords is excellent also! you guys gotta
get tacticle battle. only thing I wish is I wish we could play online in
teams. maybe someone on here can write scripts to enable online play? thomas
ward mayb it would just be easier for you to adapt your mota game to the
tacticle battle mapping engine and script it for online play. that would be
so much fun! tacticle battle is so fun I can't believe you guys on here
never heard of it before! go get it and all the maps its fun and so
adicting! the star wars and star trek games are so realistic and have lots
of depth you'll be playing for hours! 
star wars and age of warlords also! oh yeah and don't forget about the tower
defense map. I think age of warlords has at least 34 levels if not more 34
invividual maps each with their own sounds music description and mission
objectives. so much fun!



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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Lisa Hayes
Brian yo accidently put a one in their mate, i reckopn he's eight, now how 
will he take that, lol.

Lisa Hayes




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- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


I actually think he's eighteen.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: tim

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there
concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand.

At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that.



On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi champion!
 why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
 and sign an agreement of 50 50
 Maybe it will help.
 as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
 Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
 I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
 you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
 I want mota mota mota in full version.
 Thanks
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCSwasAnInquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Josh Kennedy
how about accessible bowling for android devices 4.0 icecream sandwitch 
and up? I have a moto g and it has all the sensors the iPhones have.


On 10/17/2014 4:03 PM, dark wrote:
I agree charles, an accessible bowling game with realistic motions for 
Ios would be awsom.


While I understand  Bryan's comment about sighted assistance fbeing 
necessary foo wii bowling, I don't believe it applies here if as you 
said the game is accessible, which it obviously would be if Phil 
Vlasac is involved in making it.


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Lisa Hayes

INdeed smack and continuing smacking.
Lisa Hayes




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From: tim z200...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its called a 
temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let your backside 
know what the meaning of smack is.


At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote:

Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well said sir.

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 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

 Hi Ishan,

 What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
 feasible for a number of reasons.

 For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
 including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
 to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
 ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
 to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
 am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
 pretty close to it at the moment.

 Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
 time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
 coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
 on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
 employee as you suggest.

 Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
 programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
 maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
 will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
 to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
 which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
 working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
 twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
 possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.

 As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
 alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
 partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
 lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
 believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
 before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.

 Cheers!


 On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Thomas sir!
 Do you know phil vlasak?
 if you say yes
 then do that.
 Let's come to the point.
 you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
 life.
 so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
 If you have money you can do everything.
 If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
 managing
 you'll gain not lose.
 your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
 the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
 founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
 same thing will apply on you.
 If you do you'll earn not lose.
 I think itz a profitable agreement.
 So Mr champion go for it!
 What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
 Thanks
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

No accident.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: Lisa Hayes

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:18 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Brian yo accidently put a one in their mate, i reckopn he's eight, now how
will he take that, lol.
Lisa Hayes




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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


I actually think he's eighteen.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: tim

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there
concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand.

At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ishan,

Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find
your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating.
I've already explained why hiring another developer would be
impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out
the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so
I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand.

I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for
the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50
with another person. I've already stated before there is not much
money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by
splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half
of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed
partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it
worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio
games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be
doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement.

As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my
financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be
that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay
my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd
have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So
its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency
That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with.

Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the
Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me,
riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a
full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal
issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of
pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just
deal with it. Get off my back.

For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule,
a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the
Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no
matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just
wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to
some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave
my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It
will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of
the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait
patiently for things to get done when they get done.

P.S.

My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that.



On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi champion!
 why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
 and sign an agreement of 50 50
 Maybe it will help.
 as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
 Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
 I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
 you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
 I want mota mota mota in full version.
 Thanks
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread hayden presley
As irritated as I've been from reading his messages in the last several
days, this stream of nonstop and monotonous bashing is just as, if not more,
irritating. At this point I've no idea why you are even continuing this.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA

INdeed smack and continuing smacking.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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From: tim z200...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA


 now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its called a 
 temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let your backside

 know what the meaning of smack is.

 At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote:
Hi champion!
why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone
and sign an agreement of 50 50
Maybe it will help.
as you are saying that you broke all your savings.
Why can you apply for a cheap lone?
I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help
you emotionally also. So champion go for it!
I want mota mota mota in full version.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well said sir.
 
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  From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
 
  Hi Ishan,
 
  What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly
  feasible for a number of reasons.
 
  For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people,
  including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford
  to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be
  ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc
  to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I
  am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am
  pretty close to it at the moment.
 
  Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long
  time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money
  coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so
  on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an
  employee as you suggest.
 
  Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one
  programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in
  maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25%
  will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have
  to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person
  which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job
  working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's  for
  twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely
  possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest.
 
  As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked
  alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a
  partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more
  lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do
  believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight
  before making suggestions that are factually incorrect.
 
  Cheers!
 
 
  On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Thomas sir!
  Do you know phil vlasak?
  if you say yes
  then do that.
  Let's come to the point.
  you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire
  life.
  so you also know that USA is a capitalist country.
  If you have money you can do everything.
  If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and
  managing
  you'll gain not lose.
  your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone.
  the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main
  founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing.
  same thing will apply on you.
  If you do you'll earn not lose.
  I think itz a profitable agreement.
  So Mr champion go for it!
  What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not.
  Thanks
  Ishan
 
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Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at PCSwasAnInquiry about MOTA

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
With the number of different phone models and operating systems for Android, 
I doubt it, but I'm speculating.


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From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tenpin alley on iDevices - Re: Charles at 
PCSwasAnInquiry about MOTA



how about accessible bowling for android devices 4.0 icecream sandwitch 
and up? I have a moto g and it has all the sensors the iPhones have.


On 10/17/2014 4:03 PM, dark wrote:
I agree charles, an accessible bowling game with realistic motions for 
Ios would be awsom.


While I understand  Bryan's comment about sighted assistance fbeing 
necessary foo wii bowling, I don't believe it applies here if as you said 
the game is accessible, which it obviously would be if Phil Vlasac is 
involved in making it.


Beware the Grue!
Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] frustrated with items and equipment example map

2014-10-17 Thread Zachary Kline
Josh,

Something to consider.

This map is probably not meant to be balanced. It’s a demonstration of, as 
said, items and equipment. You can probably mine it for ideas and so on, but 
actually playing it as a game almost certainly wasn’t the intent of the author.
Best,
Zack.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 well I got the ogre down to 14 health and then I was defeated so far on 
 average I can get it down to 47 or 45 health but I ultimately end up dying.
 first I move over one square and take the bow and the scroll of flying. then 
 i go a few rounds and then attack once or twice with the bow before I move 
 two spaces right and take the healing potions, the vest which I equip, the 
 sword and the scroll of fire pillar. Then go 2 or 3 more rounds, hit ogre 
 with the bow once or twice, then when I know he's getting 3 or 4 squares away 
 I set up the fire pillar and end my round. and then equip the long sword. end 
 round, ogre punches, i lose 20 or so health. use one potion, hit once with 
 sword, round changes, and it goes like that until I run out of potions. 
 during the last round I strike two times with the sword get the ogre down to 
 maybe 45 health once got him down to 14 and then I end up dying or losing. 
 Even if I move two spaces the ogre just catches up and moving has no effect. 
 what am I doing wrong here? I feel I'm missing one critical part of the 
 strategy which is not falling into place in my head. please give me a hint or 
 help with what I am doing wrong. I'll paste the log.
 log is below
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 Ending turn
 Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 the evil Ogre at 4 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 4 1
 the good Hero loses 16 health
 Round: 12
 the evil Ogre loses 10 health
 Turn changed: The forces of good
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire Pillar 
 with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 19 health
 Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 Choose an item
 Long Bow 1 of 1
 Long Bow 1 of 1
 Long Bow 1 of 1
 Battle Map
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 Who will you use Attack on?
 the evil Ogre , Valley 4 2 The tile has the following effects, Fire Pillar 
 with 1 rounds remaining
 the good Hero uses Attack on  the evil Ogre
 the evil Ogre loses 22 health
 Battle Map
 the evil Ogre has 40 of 200 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 3 of 3 Movement and 
 has the following skills, Attack, Move
 the good Hero , Valley 4 1
 the good Hero has 2 of 50 Health and 0 of 2 Actions and 2 of 2 Movement and 
 has the following skills, Attack, Move, Take item, Give item, Drop item, Use 
 item, Equipment
 Moved to 5 1
 Moved to 6 1
 Ending turn
 Turn changed: The forces of evil
 the evil Ogre moves from 4 2 to 6 2
 the evil Ogre at 6 2 uses Attack on  the good Hero at 6 1
 the good Hero loses 2 health
 the good Hero has been defeated
 Round: 13
 You have been defeated!
 go to map selection menu
 return to main menu
 go to map selection menu
 return to main menu
 main menu
 play a map campaign
 exit game
 
 
 
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