Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy
yes and that is why i use talking dosbox with nvda in sleep mode. so i 
can use all my favorite dos programs once more in a real dos environment 
with a real dos screen reader. and its nice that  the dos screen reader  
talks using whatever voice you have set in NVDA, even if that voice is 
decTalk.




On 3/8/2017 5:36 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm.
I do agree some of those commands are a bit inflexable.
the cd command yes you could switch folders but still remain in your 
home drive.

You have to switch to that drive first.
But it all depends how you were brought up.
I was born in 1982, in 1991 I got my first computer.
for 5.5 years I used dos.
in 1996 I got my first windows system but still used dos.
in 2002 I got my next system with windows.
Still used dos for some stuff a bit less.
in 2006 I got my next system, still used dos a bit.
in 2010 I got another system.
Still used dos, though by then the system was dieing the battery got 
vary hot and the drives were failing.

In 2011 I stopped using dos.
Its 2017 now and about 4 years back I got the system I am using now.
I only use windows, however through my teen years I used dos for 
gaming etc.
Its true I used the keysoft shell most of my life so the only time I 
ever did true dos were reformats, setups, or gaming so I probably 
didn't do much.
Where I had to do something complex I set a batch file to do it though 
I have read more complex dos stuff.
Dos died with the later windows and the fact with 64 bit units ms is 
really pushing dos out.
Problem is now everyone thinks that if the system puts an error out 
they expect to click something for it to go away, no one appreciates 
how things work.
Judging from your mail, you were either going through the electronic 
borg process between worlds of windows and dos or you had a hard time 
of it.
Dos was a single task nightmare and sometimes I wished it could be a 
bit better.

But I still liked it at times.
Even screen readers now are not as good as the dos ones were.



On 9/03/2017 5:18 a.m., john wrote:

Josh,
That's because dos commands are complicated, confusing, and involve 
far more detail than 90% of computer users ever want to deal

with.
Consider the following basic example:
c:\users\john> cd e:
c:\users\john>

Change directory to e:? Why am I still in my home directory?
Its because cd is complicated and painful, and requires you to 
specify that you want to change drives, and if you don't, it won't

tell you something went wrong.

It is generally a good thing that commandlines are shifting to only 
be used in rare circumstances, because without this change,

computers would never have grown to be what they are today.

Also remember that most people don't know how to use dos because, 
quite simply, its immensely limited.
Dos may have been great in its heyday, but that time is long past. 
640kb of memory can't even run hellow world now.


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From: "Joshua Kennedy" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 8:48
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
how to run a game?

You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:

you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
sleep mode, get it from


http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip 







On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy
with windows10 no recovery disk is really needed. you just go in and hit 
the reset button in settings. but before i reset i always try to fix the 
issue first.




On 3/8/2017 5:28 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

You know what scares me the most.
People who can not fix anything when it breaks.
I had someone I was working with.
I ask her, what do you do if  it breaks.
Her answer, incert the recovery disk, tell it to run then it just works.
Ok, I say then what do you do with it, load everything up was her reply.
There are 2 problems.
1.  bloated units on default config are just that default, who wants 
that.
2.  While people think reformatting is the last resort, running 
reformat certainly is the last resort.
But the recovery cd takes it away, it makes it work people don't seem 
to care how anymore.

We are losing our ability to fix stuff.



On 9/03/2017 2:48 a.m., Joshua Kennedy wrote:

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
how to run a game?

You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:

you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
sleep mode, get it from


http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip 







On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Gundry MD
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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread john
I second this whole heartedly.


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From: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 17:37
To: "Shaun Everiss" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 

Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

Hi
Pretty sad that a simple question on here gets people bashing.
Come on!
Why should your basic computer user, who only wants things to work, have to 
enter a million commands, troubleshoot, figure things 
out if it doesn’t interest them in the slightest?
It’s not their job nor should it be.
It’s like telling an auto mechanic to work on a computer when he’s used to 
being under the hood of a car. Or telling a clothes 
designer to start designing tires for big semi’s because hey, you need to know 
how this works since I do and because you take the 
easy route, that makes you a bad person.
If that isn’t the intent of your message I apologize, but certainly seems so. 
Yes, I do agree, reformatting should be your last 
option but windows 10 makes it so beyond ridiculously easy to both back up and 
restore your pc from said backup
As far as dos goes – it’s the same thing. I haven’t heard it mentioned in years 
by anyone mainstream – so how can you expect anyone 
in the last even 10 years to know about it? Come on, again. Most of the things 
I google about for dos come up with complex pages 
that assume, similar to Linux, that you have a basic understanding of said 
operating system and it’s commands.
Really disheartening that a thread brought up with such a simple question gets 
diverted like this.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 8, 2017 4:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

You know what scares me the most.
People who can not fix anything when it breaks.
I had someone I was working with.
I ask her, what do you do if  it breaks.
Her answer, incert the recovery disk, tell it to run then it just works.
Ok, I say then what do you do with it, load everything up was her reply.
There are 2 problems.
1.  bloated units on default config are just that default, who wants that.
2.  While people think reformatting is the last resort, running reformat
certainly is the last resort.
But the recovery cd takes it away, it makes it work people don't seem to
care how anymore.
We are losing our ability to fix stuff.



On 9/03/2017 2:48 a.m., Joshua Kennedy wrote:
> it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
> commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
> blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
> requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
> and so on.
>
>
>
> On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
>> Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
>> how to run a game?
>>
>> You can email me off list if you'd like to.
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:
>>> you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
>>> sleep mode, get it from
>>>
>>>
>>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
 Hey guys,

 Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
 read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
 but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
 highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
 ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
 Thanks so much,
 Ryan
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread tcwood12
Hi
Pretty sad that a simple question on here gets people bashing.
Come on!
Why should your basic computer user, who only wants things to work, have to 
enter a million commands, troubleshoot, figure things out if it doesn’t 
interest them in the slightest?
It’s not their job nor should it be.
It’s like telling an auto mechanic to work on a computer when he’s used to 
being under the hood of a car. Or telling a clothes designer to start designing 
tires for big semi’s because hey, you need to know how this works since I do 
and because you take the easy route, that makes you a bad person.
If that isn’t the intent of your message I apologize, but certainly seems so. 
Yes, I do agree, reformatting should be your last option but windows 10 makes 
it so beyond ridiculously easy to both back up and restore your pc from said 
backup
As far as dos goes – it’s the same thing. I haven’t heard it mentioned in years 
by anyone mainstream – so how can you expect anyone in the last even 10 years 
to know about it? Come on, again. Most of the things I google about for dos 
come up with complex pages that assume, similar to Linux, that you have a basic 
understanding of said operating system and it’s commands.
Really disheartening that a thread brought up with such a simple question gets 
diverted like this.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 8, 2017 4:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

You know what scares me the most.
People who can not fix anything when it breaks.
I had someone I was working with.
I ask her, what do you do if  it breaks.
Her answer, incert the recovery disk, tell it to run then it just works.
Ok, I say then what do you do with it, load everything up was her reply.
There are 2 problems.
1.  bloated units on default config are just that default, who wants that.
2.  While people think reformatting is the last resort, running reformat 
certainly is the last resort.
But the recovery cd takes it away, it makes it work people don't seem to 
care how anymore.
We are losing our ability to fix stuff.



On 9/03/2017 2:48 a.m., Joshua Kennedy wrote:
> it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
> commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
> blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
> requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
> and so on.
>
>
>
> On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
>> Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
>> how to run a game?
>>
>> You can email me off list if you'd like to.
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:
>>> you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
>>> sleep mode, get it from
>>>
>>>
>>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
 Hey guys,

 Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
 read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
 but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
 highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
 ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
 Thanks so much,
 Ryan
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Shaun Everiss

Hmmm.
I do agree some of those commands are a bit inflexable.
the cd command yes you could switch folders but still remain in your 
home drive.

You have to switch to that drive first.
But it all depends how you were brought up.
I was born in 1982, in 1991 I got my first computer.
for 5.5 years I used dos.
in 1996 I got my first windows system but still used dos.
in 2002 I got my next system with windows.
Still used dos for some stuff a bit less.
in 2006 I got my next system, still used dos a bit.
in 2010 I got another system.
Still used dos, though by then the system was dieing the battery got 
vary hot and the drives were failing.

In 2011 I stopped using dos.
Its 2017 now and about 4 years back I got the system I am using now.
I only use windows, however through my teen years I used dos for gaming etc.
Its true I used the keysoft shell most of my life so the only time I 
ever did true dos were reformats, setups, or gaming so I probably didn't 
do much.
Where I had to do something complex I set a batch file to do it though I 
have read more complex dos stuff.
Dos died with the later windows and the fact with 64 bit units ms is 
really pushing dos out.
Problem is now everyone thinks that if the system puts an error out they 
expect to click something for it to go away, no one appreciates how 
things work.
Judging from your mail, you were either going through the electronic 
borg process between worlds of windows and dos or you had a hard time of it.
Dos was a single task nightmare and sometimes I wished it could be a bit 
better.

But I still liked it at times.
Even screen readers now are not as good as the dos ones were.



On 9/03/2017 5:18 a.m., john wrote:

Josh,
That's because dos commands are complicated, confusing, and involve far more 
detail than 90% of computer users ever want to deal
with.
Consider the following basic example:
c:\users\john> cd e:
c:\users\john>

Change directory to e:? Why am I still in my home directory?
Its because cd is complicated and painful, and requires you to specify that you 
want to change drives, and if you don't, it won't
tell you something went wrong.

It is generally a good thing that commandlines are shifting to only be used in 
rare circumstances, because without this change,
computers would never have grown to be what they are today.

Also remember that most people don't know how to use dos because, quite simply, 
its immensely limited.
Dos may have been great in its heyday, but that time is long past. 640kb of 
memory can't even run hellow world now.

--
From: "Joshua Kennedy" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 8:48
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
how to run a game?

You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:

you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
sleep mode, get it from


http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip





On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Gundry MD
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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Shaun Everiss

You know what scares me the most.
People who can not fix anything when it breaks.
I had someone I was working with.
I ask her, what do you do if  it breaks.
Her answer, incert the recovery disk, tell it to run then it just works.
Ok, I say then what do you do with it, load everything up was her reply.
There are 2 problems.
1.  bloated units on default config are just that default, who wants that.
2.  While people think reformatting is the last resort, running reformat 
certainly is the last resort.
But the recovery cd takes it away, it makes it work people don't seem to 
care how anymore.

We are losing our ability to fix stuff.



On 9/03/2017 2:48 a.m., Joshua Kennedy wrote:

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
how to run a game?

You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:

you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
sleep mode, get it from


http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip





On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy
that's not complicated at all. for me at least. I got my first pc back 
in 1992 when I was 10. It only had dos on it. dos is what I grew up 
with. for me, dos is just as easy as windows or mac or android is today. 
In my opinion dos is very very easy to learn and use.




On 3/8/2017 11:18 AM, john wrote:

Josh,
That's because dos commands are complicated, confusing, and involve far more 
detail than 90% of computer users ever want to deal
with.
Consider the following basic example:
c:\users\john> cd e:
c:\users\john>

Change directory to e:? Why am I still in my home directory?
Its because cd is complicated and painful, and requires you to specify that you 
want to change drives, and if you don't, it won't
tell you something went wrong.

It is generally a good thing that commandlines are shifting to only be used in 
rare circumstances, because without this change,
computers would never have grown to be what they are today.

Also remember that most people don't know how to use dos because, quite simply, 
its immensely limited.
Dos may have been great in its heyday, but that time is long past. 640kb of 
memory can't even run hellow world now.

--
From: "Joshua Kennedy" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 8:48
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
how to run a game?

You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:

you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
sleep mode, get it from


http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip





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Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
Thanks so much,
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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread john
Josh,
That's because dos commands are complicated, confusing, and involve far more 
detail than 90% of computer users ever want to deal 
with.
Consider the following basic example:
c:\users\john> cd e:
c:\users\john>

Change directory to e:? Why am I still in my home directory?
Its because cd is complicated and painful, and requires you to specify that you 
want to change drives, and if you don't, it won't 
tell you something went wrong.

It is generally a good thing that commandlines are shifting to only be used in 
rare circumstances, because without this change, 
computers would never have grown to be what they are today.

Also remember that most people don't know how to use dos because, quite simply, 
its immensely limited.
Dos may have been great in its heyday, but that time is long past. 640kb of 
memory can't even run hellow world now.

--
From: "Joshua Kennedy" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 8:48
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run
and so on.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
> Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of
> how to run a game?
>
> You can email me off list if you'd like to.
>
>
> On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:
>> you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in
>> sleep mode, get it from
>>
>>
>> http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've
>>> read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it,
>>> but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd
>>> highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other
>>> ways to run DOS games on windows 10?
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> Ryan
>>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games.

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy
jim wrote all his games in visual basic 6 for windows95 and windows98. 
and for his dos games, he wrote them in q-basic for dos.




On 3/7/2017 9:35 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I don't think those games were written in powerbasic. If they were, 
there would be no need for all those dlls that come with most of the 
games.  I'm fairly certain it was visual basic, not powerbasic.  
Powerbasic produces executables that are extremely small, and have no 
external dll requirements, and run on all versions of windows from 95 
up to 10.  Jim's games definitely require external dlls, and 
sometimes, even need extra libs installed.  I'm pretty sure it was 
visual basic used for their development, not powerbasic, but since I 
don't play those games, I could be wrong, but regardless, powerbasic 
has a free classic version of it's compiler available at it's web 
site, anyone can download the version 9 gui compiler, and version 5 
commandline compiler for free, and I strongly urge anyone looking to 
write windows programs to do so, since there's no other compiler in 
the industry that produces tighter executables.




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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy
it amaizes me that people today do not know how to use even basic dos 
commands. they don't know about stuff like extended memory, upper memory 
blocks, how to enable them, the fact that for example lotus123 for dos 
requires xmb and extended memory and upper memory to be enabled to run 
and so on.




On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of 
how to run a game?


You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:
you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in 
sleep mode, get it from



http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip 






On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've 
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it, 
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd 
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other 
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?

Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] Running DOS games on windows 10?

2017-03-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy

first install it.

then run setup

then in virtual pair1 in the tree view in the first edit box enter com8

in second edit box enter com9

then go into its folder and run nvda.bat

then alt tab back to the folder and run dosbox.exe

then put NVDA into sleep mode with caps lock shift z if using laptop layout.

then type asap and hit enter

asap will talk using your current nvda voice.,


then press enter you should hear c colon back greater.

now type something like

cd\games

hit enter

then to play football, type


fball.exe


and press enter.

then the game starts.



On 3/7/2017 5:52 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:
Thanks, but can you tell me how to use it? Like give me an example of 
how to run a game?


You can email me off list if you'd like to.


On 3/7/2017 2:58 PM, Joshua Kennedy wrote:
you can use talking dosbox with the asap screen reader and NVDA in 
sleep mode, get it from



http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/talking_dosbox_Win3.1_Keynote_Keysoft.zip 






On 3/6/2017 6:05 PM, Ryan Conroy wrote:

Hey guys,

Does anyone on here know how to run dos games on windows 10? I've 
read about DOSBox, but have no idea how to use it. I downloaded it, 
but I'm completely lost. If someone could help me with that, I'd 
highly appreciate it. Other than that though, are there any other 
ways to run DOS games on windows 10?

Thanks so much,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games.

2017-03-08 Thread john
Sidenote - I've compiled executables with lcc that clock in at well under 30kb, 
so I'd love to see stats for powerbasic.
I don't know a line of basic myself though :(.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games.

I don't think those games were written in powerbasic.  If they were, there 
would be no need for all those dlls that come with most of the games.  I'm 
fairly certain it was visual basic, not powerbasic.  Powerbasic produces 
executables that are extremely small, and have no external dll 
requirements, and run on all versions of windows from 95 up to 10.  Jim's 
games definitely require external dlls, and sometimes, even need extra 
libs installed.  I'm pretty sure it was visual basic used for their 
development, not powerbasic, but since I don't play those games, I could 
be wrong, but regardless, powerbasic has a free classic version of it's 
compiler available at it's web site, anyone can download the version 9 gui 
compiler, and version 5 commandline compiler for free, and I strongly urge 
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